About ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl

[miles]

Hi,
  I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant products.

  But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?

Thanks,
Miles.

[BJ Freeman]

*Appl is usually to have many to many relationships


miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:

>
> Hi,
>    I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
> products.
>
>    But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
>
> Thanks,
> Miles.

[Miles Huang]

Hi BJ,

  Thank for your quick reply.

  I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
n:m relationship technically.

  What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
relationships.

Thanks,
Miles


On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:

> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
>
>
> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
> >
> > Hi,
> >    I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
> > understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
> > products.
> >
> >    But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
> > ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
> > or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
> > on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
> > missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miles.

[BJ Freeman]

it has been awhile and I am really tied up, so I would have to do what I
am going to explain to you.
the artifact, in webtools, is a good to see what interacts with an entity.
from that you can deduce the use.
also a code search for the entity for what the artifact may miss, since
Scott says the artifact does not cover everything.


[hidden email] sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:51 AM:

> Hi BJ,
>
>    Thank for your quick reply.
>
>    I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
> n:m relationship technically.
>
>    What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
> relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
> group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
> relationships.
>
> Thanks,
> Miles
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
>>
>>
>> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>     I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
>>> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
>>> products.
>>>
>>>     But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
>>> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
>>> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
>>> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
>>> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Miles.
>
>
>

[Scott Gray-2]

Hi Miles,

I don't use it often but I believe the associations are currently pretty much only used by the product search functionality.  If you choose to search within a given category and that category has features associated with it then they will be displayed as selectable filtering options on the search form.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 11/08/2010, at 6:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Hi BJ,
>
>  Thank for your quick reply.
>
>  I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
> n:m relationship technically.
>
>  What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
> relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
> group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
> relationships.
>
> Thanks,
> Miles
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
>>
>>
>> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>   I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
>>> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
>>> products.
>>>
>>>   But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
>>> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
>>> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
>>> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
>>> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Miles.
>
>

[Miles Huang]

Hi Scott,
  Thank you very much. Obviously this is an important feature OFBIZ can
provide. Your answer clarify an important feature of OFBIZ, which is not
existing in the current end user documents.
  May I kindly suggest someone to add this information to the end user
documents:
Role-oriented task instructions for Users:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Product+and
+Catalog+Information+Manager+Role
  or
Catalog Manager Reference:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Catalog .
  This will save end user a lot to understanding what OFBIZ can do and
make use of OFBIZ feature easier.

Thanks,
Miles.

On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:45 +1200, Scott Gray wrote:

> Hi Miles,
>
> I don't use it often but I believe the associations are currently pretty much only used by the product search functionality.  If you choose to search within a given category and that category has features associated with it then they will be displayed as selectable filtering options on the search form.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 11/08/2010, at 6:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > Hi BJ,
> >
> >  Thank for your quick reply.
> >
> >  I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
> > n:m relationship technically.
> >
> >  What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
> > relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
> > group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
> > relationships.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miles
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >
> >> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
> >>
> >>
> >> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>   I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
> >>> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
> >>> products.
> >>>
> >>>   But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
> >>> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
> >>> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
> >>> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
> >>> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Miles.
> >
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Feel free to add it in the page or as a comment if you can't edit. We will then take care of integrating in the page.
The formatting is the same in comment than in the page, you have all what you need at the right of the screen to do right formatting

Thanks for your help

Jacques

From: <[hidden email]>

> Hi Scott,
>  Thank you very much. Obviously this is an important feature OFBIZ can
> provide. Your answer clarify an important feature of OFBIZ, which is not
> existing in the current end user documents.
>  May I kindly suggest someone to add this information to the end user
> documents:
> Role-oriented task instructions for Users:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Product+and
> +Catalog+Information+Manager+Role
>  or
> Catalog Manager Reference:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Catalog .
>  This will save end user a lot to understanding what OFBIZ can do and
> make use of OFBIZ feature easier.
>
> Thanks,
> Miles.
>
> On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:45 +1200, Scott Gray wrote:
>
>> Hi Miles,
>>
>> I don't use it often but I believe the associations are currently pretty much only used by the product search functionality.  If
>> you choose to search within a given category and that category has features associated with it then they will be displayed as
>> selectable filtering options on the search form.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> On 11/08/2010, at 6:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>
>> > Hi BJ,
>> >
>> >  Thank for your quick reply.
>> >
>> >  I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
>> > n:m relationship technically.
>> >
>> >  What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
>> > relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
>> > group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
>> > relationships.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Miles
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> >
>> >> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>   I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
>> >>> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
>> >>> products.
>> >>>
>> >>>   But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
>> >>> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
>> >>> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
>> >>> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
>> >>> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Miles.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Miles,

I have updated your changes in the wiki

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> Feel free to add it in the page or as a comment if you can't edit. We will then take care of integrating in the page.
> The formatting is the same in comment than in the page, you have all what you need at the right of the screen to do right
> formatting
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Jacques
>
> From: <[hidden email]>
>> Hi Scott,
>>  Thank you very much. Obviously this is an important feature OFBIZ can
>> provide. Your answer clarify an important feature of OFBIZ, which is not
>> existing in the current end user documents.
>>  May I kindly suggest someone to add this information to the end user
>> documents:
>> Role-oriented task instructions for Users:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Product+and
>> +Catalog+Information+Manager+Role
>>  or
>> Catalog Manager Reference:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Catalog .
>>  This will save end user a lot to understanding what OFBIZ can do and
>> make use of OFBIZ feature easier.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Miles.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:45 +1200, Scott Gray wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Miles,
>>>
>>> I don't use it often but I believe the associations are currently pretty much only used by the product search functionality.  If
>>> you choose to search within a given category and that category has features associated with it then they will be displayed as
>>> selectable filtering options on the search form.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> On 11/08/2010, at 6:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi BJ,
>>> >
>>> >  Thank for your quick reply.
>>> >
>>> >  I understand that in OFBIZ we can use an "Appl" table to implement the
>>> > n:m relationship technically.
>>> >
>>> >  What I don't understand is the business level design of these two
>>> > relations: What's the purpose to associate a product feature category or
>>> > group to a product category? I haven't find anywhere can use these
>>> > relationships.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Miles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> *Appl is usually to have many to many relationships
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> miles sent the following on 8/10/2010 11:01 AM:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>   I'm relative new to OFBIZ and has worked on it for several months. I've
>>> >>> understand the product feature applying to product to setup virtual/variant
>>> >>> products.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>   But what's the purpose of ProductFeatureCategoryAppl and
>>> >>> ProductFeatureCatGrpAppl design? I can associate a product feature category
>>> >>> or product feature group to product categories. But I can't find any effect
>>> >>> on doing this, either in documentation or by hand-on experiment. I may
>>> >>> missed something. Can any one explain the purpose of such operations?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Miles.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>