Adding components to an instance of OFBiz

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Jacques:
Just read the guidelines for JIRA use. Thanks.
I only briefly looked at the Neogia documentation. I need to go back and
review more thoroughly to see if this is what I had in mind.
Thanks again.
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> You are welcome Ruth,
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices
>
> Did you have a look at Neogia team work ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>
>> Hi Tim:
>> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA process?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>>> derivative software packages.  There are some benefits, but many
>>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those.  I personally like the idea
>>> of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be
>>> all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it
>>> has to be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>>
>>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>>> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>>> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> Add-on
>>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
>>>> ofbiz,
>>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
>>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
>>>> driven
>>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
>>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> softwares, then
>>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> chosen
>>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
>>>> in
>>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
>>>> cannot.)
>>>>
>>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
>>>> with a
>>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>>>> 135 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
>>>>>
>>>> working
>>>>
>>>>> on this.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>>
>>>> component
>>>>
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>   * ant -help and    * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>>   * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>>   * It's not yet finished
>>>>>>   * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>>       **
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>>
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
>>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
>>>>>>>
>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>>
>>>> structure
>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  hi Ruth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
>>>>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>>
>>>> helpful to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>
>>>> (86) 135
>>>>
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> if a
>>>>
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> file
>>>>
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> allow
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> sub-directories
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> resources for
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> number of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> custom
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> search of
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> - or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

Tim, I have been told over and over not to create a Jira for Discussion
but to use the Mailing list.

has this policy changed?

Tim Ruppert sent the following on 4/21/2009 6:56 AM:

> Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it.  You'll have lots of people there to comment on it I'm sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim:
>> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>>
>> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
>> process?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>> derivative software packages.  There are some benefits, but many
>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those.  I personally like the idea of
>> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
>> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
>> be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> Add-on
>>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
>> of
>>>> ofbiz,
>>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in
>> ofbiz
>>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
>> domain
>>>> driven
>>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
>> that
>>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> softwares, then
>>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> chosen
>>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
>> trunk
>>>> in
>>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
>> just
>>>> cannot.)
>>>>
>>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
>> up
>>>> with a
>>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
>> point
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> (86)
>>>> 135 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
>> was
>>>>>      
>>>> working
>>>>    
>>>>> on this.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>>        
>>>> component
>>>>    
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>   * ant -help and    * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>>   * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
>> for
>>>>>>        
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>    
>>>>>>   * It's not yet finished
>>>>>>   * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option
>> to
>>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>>       **
>>>>>>        
>>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>>    
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
>> above
>>>>>>        
>>>> can
>>>>    
>>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
>> components
>>>>>>>          
>>>> in
>>>>    
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance,
>> when
>>>>>>>          
>>>> we
>>>>    
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
>> help
>>>>>>>          
>>>> in
>>>>    
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>>          
>>>> structure
>>>>    
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  hi Ruth,
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
>> install/uninstall
>>>>>>>>            
>>>> new
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>>            
>>>> helpful to
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>            
>>>> (86) 135
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>            
>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>> if a
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
>> basic
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>> file
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>> allow
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>> directory.
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>> sub-directories
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>> resources for
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> number of
>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> custom
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> search of
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> tools
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
>> framework
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> - or
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
>> webtool
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>> or
>>>>    
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>        
>>>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

Tim, I have been told over and over not to create a Jira for Discussion
but to use the Mailing list.

has this policy changed?

Tim Ruppert sent the following on 4/21/2009 6:56 AM:
> > Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it.  You'll
have lots of people there to comment on it I'm sure.

> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Ruppert
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > o:801.649.6594
> > f:801.649.6595
> >
> > ----- "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
>> >> Hi Tim:
>> >> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>> >>
>> >> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
>> >> process?
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Ruth
>> >> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> >>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>> >> derivative software packages.  There are some benefits, but many
>> >> deterrents, so you have to weigh those.  I personally like the idea of
>> >> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
>> >> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
>> >> be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>> >>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>> >> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>> >> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Tim
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Tim Ruppert
>>> >>> HotWax Media
>>> >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> o:801.649.6594
>>> >>> f:801.649.6595
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> >>>> Add-on
>>>> >>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
>> >> of
>>>> >>>> ofbiz,
>>>> >>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in
>> >> ofbiz
>>>> >>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
>> >> domain
>>>> >>>> driven
>>>> >>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
>> >> that
>>>> >>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> >>>> softwares, then
>>>> >>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> >>>> chosen
>>>> >>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
>> >> trunk
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
>> >> just
>>>> >>>> cannot.)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
>> >> up
>>>> >>>> with a
>>>> >>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
>> >> point
>>>> >>>>  :-)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> Regards,
>>>> >>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> >>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> >> (86)
>>>> >>>> 135 0135
>>>> >>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> >>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
>> >> was
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> working
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> on this.
>>>>> >>>>> Ruth
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> component
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> structure
>>>>>> >>>>>>   * ant -help and    * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>> >>>>>>   * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
>> >> for
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> OFBiz
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>   * It's not yet finished
>>>>>> >>>>>>   * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an

option

>> >> to
>>>>>> >>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>> >>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>> >>>>>>       **
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
>> >> above
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> can
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
>> >> components
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and

maintainance,

>> >> when
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
>> >> help
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> structure
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  hi Ruth,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with

JIRA and

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
>> >> install/uninstall
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> new
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> helpful to
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 |

Mobile:

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> (86) 135
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: [phone]
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
>> >> wondering
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> if a
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to

manage

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> OFBiz
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
>> >> basic
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the

ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> file
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be
extended to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> allow
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you
think?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the
"hot-deploy"

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> directory.
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> sub-directories
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to

load

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> resources for
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache

site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years
now for a
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> number of
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a
requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> custom
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework.
After a brief

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> search of
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> >> collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> tools
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following

question:

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
>> >> framework
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> - or
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
>> >> webtool
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>
> >
> >