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chris snow
Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz up to date, as described in:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch

Many thanks in advance
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

Tim Ruppert
I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then  
upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one  
option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes - but  
from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

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On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:

>
> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz  
> up to
> date, as described in:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>
> Many thanks in advance
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

chris snow
Hi Tim,

Do you do any changes to the core applications as extensions in hot-deploy?
Do you have a local svn repository for your hot-deploy code?

Many thanks for the reply,

Chris


Tim Ruppert wrote
I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then  
upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one  
option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes - but  
from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:

>
> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz  
> up to
> date, as described in:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>
> Many thanks in advance
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


 
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

Tim Ruppert
Yeah - we do make changes to the core ofbiz, but we use patches (and  
apply them during deployments) until they're in the trunk and we've  
made the decision to upgrade.  We used to do it all the time, but with  
the speed at which massive changes are being made, we've grown to be a  
bit more careful.  That being said, we stay up to the trunk  
religiously since that's where we put most of our changes as well.

We do have a local svn repo for our hot-deploy code - actually we tend  
to break them up by client and have separate repos for each to make it  
easier.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:10 AM, snowc wrote:

>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Do you do any changes to the core applications as extensions in hot-
> deploy?
> Do you have a local svn repository for your hot-deploy code?
>
> Many thanks for the reply,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then
>> upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one
>> option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes - but
>> from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz
>>> up to
>>> date, as described in:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

Adrian Crum
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I do the same, plus I keep patches to configure OFBiz for deployment.

-Adrian

Tim Ruppert wrote:

> I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then upgrade
> OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one option to keep
> yourself insulated from the community's changes - but from experience -
> it's really a pain and not worth the effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:
>
>>
>> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz up to
>> date, as described in:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch 
>>
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html 
>>
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

chris snow
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I'm a bit confused with your deployment process.  Are your production servers synchronized directly to the ofbiz svn repository and then manually patched and built?  

Tim Ruppert wrote
Yeah - we do make changes to the core ofbiz, but we use patches (and  
apply them during deployments) until they're in the trunk and we've  
made the decision to upgrade.  We used to do it all the time, but with  
the speed at which massive changes are being made, we've grown to be a  
bit more careful.  That being said, we stay up to the trunk  
religiously since that's where we put most of our changes as well.

We do have a local svn repo for our hot-deploy code - actually we tend  
to break them up by client and have separate repos for each to make it  
easier.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:10 AM, snowc wrote:

>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Do you do any changes to the core applications as extensions in hot-
> deploy?
> Do you have a local svn repository for your hot-deploy code?
>
> Many thanks for the reply,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then
>> upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one
>> option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes - but
>> from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz
>>> up to
>>> date, as described in:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25387327.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


 
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

Tim Ruppert
That is how we do it.  We pull a specific revision and patch where we  
need to - and go from there - apply our custom components (where the  
patches live) - and go from there.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:32 PM, snowc wrote:

>
> I'm a bit confused with your deployment process.  Are your  
> production servers
> synchronized directly to the ofbiz svn repository and then manually  
> patched
> and built?
>
>
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>> Yeah - we do make changes to the core ofbiz, but we use patches (and
>> apply them during deployments) until they're in the trunk and we've
>> made the decision to upgrade.  We used to do it all the time, but  
>> with
>> the speed at which massive changes are being made, we've grown to  
>> be a
>> bit more careful.  That being said, we stay up to the trunk
>> religiously since that's where we put most of our changes as well.
>>
>> We do have a local svn repo for our hot-deploy code - actually we  
>> tend
>> to break them up by client and have separate repos for each to make  
>> it
>> easier.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:10 AM, snowc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Do you do any changes to the core applications as extensions in hot-
>>> deploy?
>>> Do you have a local svn repository for your hot-deploy code?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the reply,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then
>>>> upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one
>>>> option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes -  
>>>> but
>>>> from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>
>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz
>>>>> up to
>>>>> date, as described in:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks in advance
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25387327.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping ofbiz up to date?

Jacopo Cappellato-4
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There is also an ant task that sets up the layout of such a custom hot-
deploy component, you may want to have a look at it and to its ant  
targets:

ant create-component

Jacopo

On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:32 PM, snowc wrote:

>
> I'm a bit confused with your deployment process.  Are your  
> production servers
> synchronized directly to the ofbiz svn repository and then manually  
> patched
> and built?
>
>
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>> Yeah - we do make changes to the core ofbiz, but we use patches (and
>> apply them during deployments) until they're in the trunk and we've
>> made the decision to upgrade.  We used to do it all the time, but  
>> with
>> the speed at which massive changes are being made, we've grown to  
>> be a
>> bit more careful.  That being said, we stay up to the trunk
>> religiously since that's where we put most of our changes as well.
>>
>> We do have a local svn repo for our hot-deploy code - actually we  
>> tend
>> to break them up by client and have separate repos for each to make  
>> it
>> easier.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:10 AM, snowc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Do you do any changes to the core applications as extensions in hot-
>>> deploy?
>>> Do you have a local svn repository for your hot-deploy code?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the reply,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't.  We do just about everything in hot-deploy and then
>>>> upgrade OFBiz whenever it's necessary.  The vendor branch is one
>>>> option to keep yourself insulated from the community's changes -  
>>>> but
>>>> from experience - it's really a pain and not worth the effort.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>
>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:03 AM, snowc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are svn vendor branches still recommended for keeping custom ofbiz
>>>>> up to
>>>>> date, as described in:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks in advance
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25385639.html
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Are-svn-vendor-branches-still-recommended-for-keeping-ofbiz-up-to-date--tp25385639p25387327.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>