Hello, I'm working for Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. on their Non-Profit Accounting Software project[1]. I am currently assessing existing open-source projects[2] for their fitness as financial software for non-profit organizations according to the use cases[3] contributed by conservancy, others. I would greatly appreciate help to assess OFBiz. If you have knowledge about the capabilites and caveats of OFBiz, please take a look at the use cases and add your assessment to the OFBiz wiki page[4] in the format: > ## [[UseCases/<pagename, e.g. GeneratingReports>]] evaluation > > - Supports Chart of Accounts > - Does not support Fund Report > - [...] alternatively, reply to me on this email with your assessment. Be sure to include my email address as Cc: or To:. Thank you, Joar [1]: http://sfconservancy.org/campaign/ [2]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ [3]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/ [4]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ApacheOFBiz/ |
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This short answer to your question is that Ofbiz does not cater for Non-profit organizations Out-of-the-box. Its genesis is the trading for gain organisation with a huge emphasis on eCommerce. Having said that and from a framework point of view, Ofbiz has the basics in place to deal with your required functionalisties. Lets's have a check-list look at your requirements to see how Ofbiz measures up: 1. GeneratingReports (Yes - Ofbiz can generate the traditional accouting reports - BSheet, IStatement, CFlowStatement etc plus like any good application Ofbiz allows you to create custom reports.) 2.Collaborating (Yes - check out the Project Management and SFA applications) 3.Fund Accounting (Not out of the box - but if your emphasis is accounatbility and deliverables that the Requirements App might be able to cater for this) 4. Double-entry Accounting (Yes) 5. TrackingIncomeType (Yes) 6. TrackingDocumentation (Not like a traditional EDMS - but there are possibilities) 7. Handling expense reports and reimbursement requests (Yes) 8. ?Handling contractors and contracts (Yes) 9. Handling multiple currencies (Yes) 10. Draft transactions and approval (Yes) 11. Workflow for Non-Profit Accounting (Not OOTB) 12. Chart of Accounts (Yes) From a capability point of view - The framework, being highly customizable and extensible plus the OOTB functionalities can definately handle your requirements; From a caveat point of view - A not for profit implemention is a specialized rather than a generic requirement and as such will demand some cutomisation. It is highly possible but will require some investment in time and money. Regards Gavin On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Joar Wandborg <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello, I'm working for Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. on their > Non-Profit Accounting Software project[1]. > > I am currently assessing existing open-source projects[2] for their > fitness as financial software for non-profit organizations according to > the use cases[3] contributed by conservancy, others. > > I would greatly appreciate help to assess OFBiz. If you have knowledge > about the capabilites and caveats of OFBiz, please take a look at the > use cases and add your assessment to the OFBiz wiki page[4] in the format: > > > ## [[UseCases/<pagename, e.g. GeneratingReports>]] evaluation > > > > - Supports Chart of Accounts > > - Does not support Fund Report > > - [...] > > alternatively, reply to me on this email with your assessment. Be sure > to include my email address as Cc: or To:. > > Thank you, > Joar > > [1]: http://sfconservancy.org/campaign/ > [2]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ > [3]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/ > [4]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ApacheOFBiz/ > > > |
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Who would be inclined to answer on detailled accouting aspects? Since it's wiki based, there are no needs that only one person takes all the burden, we can share. But maybe then it should be reviewed by OFBiz-accounting knowledgeable persons. Hi Joar, I already 2 noticed points and removed the 1st : 1. OFBiz is no longer "In transitional phase". Apache OFBIz is an ASF (Apache Software Fundation) TLP (Top Level Project) since July 2006 2. You (Josh Berkus rather it seems) say: "More importantly, it would never be installable in standalone mode on a desktop machine; it would always need to be a server install. ". This is untrue you can run OFBiz as a standalone application on a desktop machine as well. Of course if you use a server, people, through their browsers, can access to this server instance which allows to *share information* and minimize resources consumption. As I'm not quite sure I understood you well, I did not change that point. I have updated the Technical session from * Java * Jython * Groovy to * Java * XML * Groovy * Freemarker * Javascript * CSS * Ant You can rely on https://www.ohloh.net/p/Apache-OFBiz/analyses/latest/languages_summary for details I have also updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OFBiz#Open_Source_Libraries that you used as ref. See my comment on the link in Wikipedia: this OFBiz wiki page is deprecated but gives updated links (I did no update more than that, I mean not the Wikipedia table in the Open_Source_Libraries section) HTH Jacques On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:39 PM Joar Wandborg <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, I'm working for Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. on their > Non-Profit Accounting Software project[1]. > > I am currently assessing existing open-source projects[2] for their > fitness as financial software for non-profit organizations according to > the use cases[3] contributed by conservancy, others. > > I would greatly appreciate help to assess OFBiz. If you have knowledge > about the capabilites and caveats of OFBiz, please take a look at the > use cases and add your assessment to the OFBiz wiki page[4] in the format: > >> ## [[UseCases/<pagename, e.g. GeneratingReports>]] evaluation >> >> - Supports Chart of Accounts >> - Does not support Fund Report >> - [...] > > alternatively, reply to me on this email with your assessment. Be sure > to include my email address as Cc: or To:. > > Thank you, > Joar > > [1]: http://sfconservancy.org/campaign/ > [2]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ > [3]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/ > [4]: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ApacheOFBiz/ |
Thank you Jacques, I cannot see your changes in the wiki however, are
you sure you saved your edits? If so I'll check the revisions to try to recover your edits. - joar On 11/15/2013 12:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I already 2 noticed points and removed the 1st : > 1. OFBiz is no longer "In transitional phase". Apache OFBIz is an ASF (Apache Software Fundation) TLP (Top Level Project) since July 2006 > 2. You (Josh Berkus rather it seems) say: "More importantly, it would never be installable in standalone mode on a desktop machine; it would always need to be a server install. ". This is untrue you can run OFBiz as a standalone application on a desktop machine as well. Of course if you use a server, people, through their browsers, can access to this server instance which allows to *share information* and minimize resources consumption. As I'm not quite sure I understood you well, I did not change that point. > > I have updated the Technical session from > * Java > * Jython > * Groovy > to > * Java > * XML > * Groovy > * Freemarker > * Javascript > * CSS > * Ant > You can rely on https://www.ohloh.net/p/Apache-OFBiz/analyses/latest/languages_summary for details > > I have also updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OFBiz#Open_Source_Libraries that you used as ref. See my comment on the link in Wikipedia: this OFBiz wiki page is deprecated but gives updated links (I did no update more than that, I mean not the Wikipedia table in the Open_Source_Libraries section) |
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Oops, indeed I must have only previewed. I added my changes back, please review. Jacques On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:46 PM Joar Wandborg <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thank you Jacques, I cannot see your changes in the wiki however, are > you sure you saved your edits? If so I'll check the revisions to try to > recover your edits. > > - joar > > On 11/15/2013 12:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> I already 2 noticed points and removed the 1st : >> 1. OFBiz is no longer "In transitional phase". Apache OFBIz is an ASF (Apache Software Fundation) TLP (Top Level Project) since >> July 2006 >> 2. You (Josh Berkus rather it seems) say: "More importantly, it would never be installable in standalone mode on a desktop >> machine; it would always need to be a server install. ". This is untrue you can run OFBiz as a standalone application on a >> desktop machine as well. Of course if you use a server, people, through their browsers, can access to this server instance which >> allows to *share information* and minimize resources consumption. As I'm not quite sure I understood you well, I did not change >> that point. >> >> I have updated the Technical session from >> * Java >> * Jython >> * Groovy >> to >> * Java >> * XML >> * Groovy >> * Freemarker >> * Javascript >> * CSS >> * Ant >> You can rely on https://www.ohloh.net/p/Apache-OFBiz/analyses/latest/languages_summary for details >> >> I have also updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OFBiz#Open_Source_Libraries that you used as ref. See my comment on the >> link in Wikipedia: this OFBiz wiki page is deprecated but gives updated links (I did no update more than that, I mean not the >> Wikipedia table in the Open_Source_Libraries section) |
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On 11/15/2013 12:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:> Hi community,
> > Who would be inclined to answer on detailled accouting aspects? > Since it's wiki based, there are no needs that only one person takes all the burden, we can share. > But maybe then it should be reviewed by OFBiz-accounting knowledgeable persons. Dear OFBiz-users, I have added an evaluation template to <http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ApacheOFBiz/#evaluation>. The wiki is editable and OpenID-enabled, I would greatly appreciate contributions from people with experience in OFBiz accounting to help me fill in the FIXME's in that template. Best, Joar |
On 11/18/2013 06:10 PM, Joar Wandborg wrote:
> On 11/15/2013 12:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:> Hi community, >> >> Who would be inclined to answer on detailled accouting aspects? >> Since it's wiki based, there are no needs that only one person takes > all the burden, we can share. >> But maybe then it should be reviewed by OFBiz-accounting knowledgeable > persons. > > Dear OFBiz-users, I have added an evaluation template to > <http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/ApacheOFBiz/#evaluation>. > The wiki is editable and OpenID-enabled, I would greatly appreciate > contributions from people with experience in OFBiz accounting to help me > fill in the FIXME's in that template. > > Best, > Joar I have not seen any activity from anyone in the wiki so far. I will do an evaluation based on my knowledge of NPO accounting, seeing how far I come being entirely unfamiliar with the OFBiz interface. I will send you a request for comments when I'm done with my evaluation. - joar |
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