BOM / part list Product

[Robert Gan]

Hello,

I have the following requirement:

The customers within my webshop see:

Product A
Procuct B
etc.

in the Background I have like:
Product A
Product B
Product AB

Product A and Product B uses the same Product internaly but are shown as different products in the webshop.

I.Ex. for printer cartridges, where on fits into several Printer.
(Printer cartridge AB fits into Printer A and Printer B)

How can I handle, that the product A and B uses the stock and the information of Product AB? I think its like a Part list or Bill of Material, but I do not know how to connect. I used product associacion, but dont know for what it exactly is.

about every help I would be happy.


Robert

[Sebastian Leitner]

Hi Robert,

did I get your approach right?
You have one product (printer cartridge, let's say Pelikan ABC), but you
want to "invent" multiple products, because they fit into several printers
(let's say HP XY and HP YZ)?
I don't get why you would  want to do that ...

Wouldn't it be much more elegant to have one cartrige and apply some
feature called "fits to" and link it to all the applicable printers? You
could do some filter logik in the frontend or have those features used
within your search.
Have a look at ProductFeature* tables to get an impression of that.

Product assosiations are used for multiple purposes. You can link one
product to another, the type of the assosiation tells things like "this
iPhone4 is old, buy an iPhone5 instead" (PRODUCT_OBSOLESCENCE) or "don't
like the blue ink of the cartridge? Try this red one instead"
(PRODUCT_COMPLEMENT)

Have fun!

- Sebastian


Sebastian Leitner
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From:   "Robert G." <[hidden email]>
To:     [hidden email]
Date:   29.10.2012 14:11
Subject:        BOM / part list Product



Hello,

I have the following requirement:

The customers within my webshop see:

Product A
Procuct B
etc.

in the Background I have like:
Product A
Product B
Product AB

Product A and Product B uses the same Product internaly but are shown as
different products in the webshop.

I.Ex. for printer cartridges, where on fits into several Printer.
(Printer cartridge AB fits into Printer A and Printer B)

How can I handle, that the product A and B uses the stock and the
information of Product AB? I think its like a Part list or Bill of
Material,
but I do not know how to connect. I used product associacion, but dont
know
for what it exactly is.

about every help I would be happy.


Robert




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[Robert Gan]

Hey Sebastian,

thank you for your message. You are right with the goal I have. I planed to do it this way because I do not want to tell the competitors the "cross reference", cause it is handled like a secret :)

So with that way the customer can easy search for his printer under the "cartridges" category and get the right product. In the background I have to know which cartridge it is and need a correct stock handling, which is wrong if I do not connect the cartridge to the printer products.

the way is also easier for listings in product search engines, cause the list i.ex. the printer not the cartridge, cause the cartridge has not to be original and can have several names.

do you know a good way for it?

[Colin Rooney-2]

You can associate one product with another - and define the type of
association.  If you also have the printer defined as a product then you
might use this functionality to make the selection you require.

Colin

On 29 October 2012 13:56, Robert G. <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hey Sebastian,
>
> thank you for your message. You are right with the goal I have. I planed to
> do it this way because I do not want to tell the competitors the "cross
> reference", cause it is handled like a secret :)
>
> So with that way the customer can easy search for his printer under the
> "cartridges" category and get the right product. In the background I have
> to
> know which cartridge it is and need a correct stock handling, which is
> wrong
> if I do not connect the cartridge to the printer products.
>
> the way is also easier for listings in product search engines, cause the
> list i.ex. the printer not the cartridge, cause the cartridge has not to be
> original and can have several names.
>
> do you know a good way for it?
>
>
>
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>

[Sebastian Leitner]

Hi Robert,

just a quick idea, have not tried this:

normally when working with variants you have one virtual product (e. g.
Simpsons T-Shirt) and many physical ones (this shirt in sizes S, M, L,
...).
You could try to "mis-use" that mechanism: create your "invented" products
as virutal products and the real product as a physical one. Then you link
different virtual products to your physical product.
The user selects your virtual product, but buys the physical one. You only
have one inventory item.

But even with that in mind you will need features, i guess.
You could have a look at our blog:
http://www.ofbiz.biz/tutorials/produktmatrix-mit-variantenprodukten-und-merkmalen/

The way I was thinking of (doing it without the "invented" products)
should either not tell your secret ;-)

-Sebastian
(sorry for the signature, I can't switch that off)


Sebastian Leitner
Consultant AEW

Lynx-Consulting GmbH
Johanniskirchplatz 6
33615 Bielefeld
Deutschland
Fon: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Mobil: [phone]


Kosten senken durch mehrere Online-Shops auf einer Plattform!
Wie das mit OFBiz geht zeigen wir Ihnen auf der OpenSource-Entwicklerkonferenz ApacheCon am 08.11.2012 in Sinsheim.
Unser Thema dort: "Multi-Store eCommerce with Apache OFBiz".


Company and Management Headquarters:
Lynx-Consulting GmbH, Johanniskirchplatz 6, 33615 Bielefeld, Deutschland
Fon: [phone], Fax: [phone], www.lynx.de

Court Registration: Amtsgericht Bielefeld HRB 35946
Chief Executive Officer: Hans-Joachim Rosowski, Michael Seehrich


http://www.lynx.de/haftungsausschluss

[Robert Gan]

Ah Thank sebastian,

maybe I should think about the virtual-variant thing.

If I us like 10 virtual products, I can all link to the 1 "real" variant product, or am I wrong?

So if I have a product with 1 variant (than I know its the cartridge i.ex.), than I can hide thie variant information on ecomerce and select the variant as default. So this should work, right? :)

would be great.

[Robert Gan]

Sebastian, I just want to say, that it works great - as expected. Thank you for the more detailed view and the german link :)

Before I had not understand the virtual/variant product combination correctly.

Thanks a lot!

[Sebastian Leitner]

Hi Robert,
I'm glad it helped :)



Sebastian Leitner
Consultant AEW

Lynx-Consulting GmbH
Johanniskirchplatz 6
33615 Bielefeld
Deutschland
Fon: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Mobil: [phone]


Kosten senken durch mehrere Online-Shops auf einer Plattform!
Wie das mit OFBiz geht zeigen wir Ihnen auf der OpenSource-Entwicklerkonferenz ApacheCon am 08.11.2012 in Sinsheim.
Unser Thema dort: "Multi-Store eCommerce with Apache OFBiz".


Company and Management Headquarters:
Lynx-Consulting GmbH, Johanniskirchplatz 6, 33615 Bielefeld, Deutschland
Fon: [phone], Fax: [phone], www.lynx.de

Court Registration: Amtsgericht Bielefeld HRB 35946
Chief Executive Officer: Hans-Joachim Rosowski, Michael Seehrich


http://www.lynx.de/haftungsausschluss