Best method for work flow type problem?

[samhamilton]

Hey List,

I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
work flow type problem?

Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.

Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
has be deprecated (
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
)

Cheers
Sam

[David E. Jones-2]

Most work management stuff in OFBiz is in the Work Effort and Project Manager applications (basic stuff in the workeffort component).

While just a guess, I think that'll be more useful than a "workflow engine" type of thing. The easiest way to use it is probably to setup a template project for each process you want to track, and then clone it each time you actually want to track doing that thing.

-David


On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:

> Hey List,
>
> I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
> work flow type problem?
>
> Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
> photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
> its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.
>
> Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
> into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
> has be deprecated (
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
> )
>
> Cheers
> Sam

[samhamilton]

Thanks David - and please excuse the ignorance - booting up a copy of
OFBiz now to start exploring; the project manager can manage inputting
of data into other parts of ofbiz?

Cheers
Sam


 On 01/02/2010 15:03, David E Jones wrote:

>
> Most work management stuff in OFBiz is in the Work Effort and Project Manager applications (basic stuff in the workeffort component).
>
> While just a guess, I think that'll be more useful than a "workflow engine" type of thing. The easiest way to use it is probably to setup a template project for each process you want to track, and then clone it each time you actually want to track doing that thing.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Hey List,
>>
>> I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
>> work flow type problem?
>>
>> Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
>> photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
>> its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.
>>
>> Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
>> into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
>> has be deprecated (
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
>> )
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sam
>

[David E. Jones-2]

If I understand your question right, then yes. In other words, the Project Manager is built on top of other components/applications like the workeffort component, and most of the data from Project Manager screens goes to workeffort entities.

-David


On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:

> Thanks David - and please excuse the ignorance - booting up a copy of
> OFBiz now to start exploring; the project manager can manage inputting
> of data into other parts of ofbiz?
>
> Cheers
> Sam
>
>
> On 01/02/2010 15:03, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>> Most work management stuff in OFBiz is in the Work Effort and Project Manager applications (basic stuff in the workeffort component).
>>
>> While just a guess, I think that'll be more useful than a "workflow engine" type of thing. The easiest way to use it is probably to setup a template project for each process you want to track, and then clone it each time you actually want to track doing that thing.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Hey List,
>>>
>>> I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
>>> work flow type problem?
>>>
>>> Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
>>> photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
>>> its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.
>>>
>>> Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
>>> into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
>>> has be deprecated (
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
>>> )
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Sam
>>
>

[samhamilton]

Sorry badly phrased - lets try that again.

Can the Work Effort or Project Manager know when another part of the
system is updated and move the work along to the next person, e.g. if
someone uploads a photo for a SKU it should then create a task for the
person to write the copy and close the task for uploading a photo for
that SKU.

I get the feeling just from the names that Work Effort is probably more
like a pipeline - regularly getting products out the factory door where
as Project Manager is more for building the factory?

Cheers
Sam




On 01/02/2010 15:18, David E Jones wrote:

>
> If I understand your question right, then yes. In other words, the Project Manager is built on top of other components/applications like the workeffort component, and most of the data from Project Manager screens goes to workeffort entities.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Thanks David - and please excuse the ignorance - booting up a copy of
>> OFBiz now to start exploring; the project manager can manage inputting
>> of data into other parts of ofbiz?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On 01/02/2010 15:03, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Most work management stuff in OFBiz is in the Work Effort and Project Manager applications (basic stuff in the workeffort component).
>>>
>>> While just a guess, I think that'll be more useful than a "workflow engine" type of thing. The easiest way to use it is probably to setup a template project for each process you want to track, and then clone it each time you actually want to track doing that thing.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey List,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
>>>> work flow type problem?
>>>>
>>>> Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
>>>> photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
>>>> its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.
>>>>
>>>> Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
>>>> into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
>>>> has be deprecated (
>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Sam
>>>
>>
>

[David E. Jones-2]

You'd have to write code to automate task changes. There are actually a few parts of OFBiz that already do this, ie that create or update WorkEffort records.

As a generality the Work Effort Manager is more general, it is the generic UI for the WorkEffort and related entities. The Project Manager is simply a more specific app built on top of what is in the workeffort component.

-David


On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:

> Sorry badly phrased - lets try that again.
>
> Can the Work Effort or Project Manager know when another part of the
> system is updated and move the work along to the next person, e.g. if
> someone uploads a photo for a SKU it should then create a task for the
> person to write the copy and close the task for uploading a photo for
> that SKU.
>
> I get the feeling just from the names that Work Effort is probably more
> like a pipeline - regularly getting products out the factory door where
> as Project Manager is more for building the factory?
>
> Cheers
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> On 01/02/2010 15:18, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>> If I understand your question right, then yes. In other words, the Project Manager is built on top of other components/applications like the workeffort component, and most of the data from Project Manager screens goes to workeffort entities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks David - and please excuse the ignorance - booting up a copy of
>>> OFBiz now to start exploring; the project manager can manage inputting
>>> of data into other parts of ofbiz?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/02/2010 15:03, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most work management stuff in OFBiz is in the Work Effort and Project Manager applications (basic stuff in the workeffort component).
>>>>
>>>> While just a guess, I think that'll be more useful than a "workflow engine" type of thing. The easiest way to use it is probably to setup a template project for each process you want to track, and then clone it each time you actually want to track doing that thing.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering what your opinions are for the best way to implement a
>>>>> work flow type problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Each week we source new products and these products need copy writing,
>>>>> photos, translation and then listing onto our various country websites -
>>>>> its like a big pipeline that we monitor for blockages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we do this all in sharepoint and I am itching to move this
>>>>> into OFBiz but what would be the best practice for this now that Shark
>>>>> has be deprecated (
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Open+Source+Projects+and+Standards
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>
>>
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