Board Report Mar 2009

[David E Jones-3]

I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is  
available here:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03

This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I  
have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it  
better and more complete!

-David

[hans_bakker]

You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
infrastructure:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877


On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:

> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is  
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I  
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it  
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>

--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates

[David E Jones-3]

That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a  
conversation... though somewhat surprising.

However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move? As  
described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...  
and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running many  
of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools  
(especially Confluence and Jira).

Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the community  
before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by  
varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!

In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF  
infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private  
mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation  
and coordination).

-David


On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
> infrastructure:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
>> available here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>
>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left  
>> before I
>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>> better and more complete!
>>
>> -David
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>

[hans_bakker]

David,
I copied the intention on the [hidden email] list on Jan25.

My intention was to first move and then change the installation to what
we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
have them now?

Regards,
Hans

On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:

> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a  
> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>
> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move? As  
> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...  
> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running many  
> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools  
> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>
> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the community  
> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by  
> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>
> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF  
> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private  
> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation  
> and coordination).
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
> > infrastructure:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> >> available here:
> >>
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
> >>
> >> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left  
> >> before I
> >> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> >> better and more complete!
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> > --
> > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >
>

--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates

[David E Jones-3]

I'm confused, do you mean aside from the issues I listed in my initial  
write up (that was included in the board report)?

In addition to those issues, for Confluence (docs.ofbiz.org) there is  
no sense investing time in migrating it to cwiki.apache.org if we're  
only going to move it to an OFBiz instance running somewhere in a few  
months.

Also, to complicate things further we still need to figure out where  
the demo instance of OFBiz and the instance we'll use to manage the  
project (replacing Jira, Confluence, possibly the web site and various  
other things) will be hosted. The answer to that question may help  
with some of these other issues.

If infra can find a place, they could setup a demo instance right away  
(there is nothing move for that... just checkout, build, install,  
run)... but I don't know if they really have a place and I'm not sure  
the Hudson spaces will be adequate for it.

The API and daily builds are probably easier, and there isn't really  
anything to move for those I don't think... just setting it up based  
on the OFBiz SVN repo.

-David


On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> David,
> I copied the intention on the [hidden email] list on Jan25.
>
> My intention was to first move and then change the installation to  
> what
> we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
> have them now?
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
>> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>>
>> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move?  
>> As
>> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
>> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running  
>> many
>> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
>> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>>
>> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the  
>> community
>> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
>> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>>
>> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
>> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
>> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
>> and coordination).
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
>>> infrastructure:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009.  
>>>> It is
>>>> available here:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>>
>>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>>>> before I
>>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>>> better and more complete!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Just one question, what PRC stands for  in "but unless we somehow made that official ASF infrastructure there are PRC as well as
survivability issues with it" ?

Ha, I found it : Public Relation Commitee (I found a clue in the previous report : Ted Husted :o)

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>

>
> I'm confused, do you mean aside from the issues I listed in my initial  write up (that was included in the board report)?
>
> In addition to those issues, for Confluence (docs.ofbiz.org) there is  no sense investing time in migrating it to cwiki.apache.org
> if we're  only going to move it to an OFBiz instance running somewhere in a few  months.
>
> Also, to complicate things further we still need to figure out where  the demo instance of OFBiz and the instance we'll use to
> manage the  project (replacing Jira, Confluence, possibly the web site and various  other things) will be hosted. The answer to
> that question may help  with some of these other issues.
>
> If infra can find a place, they could setup a demo instance right away  (there is nothing move for that... just checkout, build,
> install,  run)... but I don't know if they really have a place and I'm not sure  the Hudson spaces will be adequate for it.
>
> The API and daily builds are probably easier, and there isn't really  anything to move for those I don't think... just setting it
> up based  on the OFBiz SVN repo.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
>> David,
>> I copied the intention on the [hidden email] list on Jan25.
>>
>> My intention was to first move and then change the installation to  what
>> we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
>> have them now?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
>>> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>>>
>>> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move?  As
>>> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
>>> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running  many
>>> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
>>> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>>>
>>> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the  community
>>> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
>>> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>>>
>>> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
>>> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
>>> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
>>> and coordination).
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
>>>> infrastructure:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009.  It is
>>>>> available here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>>>>> before I
>>>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>>>> better and more complete!
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>
>

[Adrian Crum]

+1

-Adrian

David E Jones wrote:

>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-4]

+1

On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:57 AM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It  
> is available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before  
> I have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it  
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>

[Adam Heath-2]

David E Jones wrote:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!

+0

Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks.  Then I'll change to +1.

[Adam Heath-2]

Adam Heath wrote:

> David E Jones wrote:
>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
>> available here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>
>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>> better and more complete!
>
> +0
>
> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks.  Then I'll change to +1.

Actually, now that I think about it, before we make that release
branch, we should make a concerted effort to make certain we are using
the latest versions of any library we have in OfBiz.

[David E Jones-3]

On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Adam Heath wrote:

> Adam Heath wrote:
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It  
>>> is
>>> available here:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>
>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left  
>>> before I
>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>> better and more complete!
>>
>> +0
>>
>> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks.  Then I'll change to  
>> +1.
>
> Actually, now that I think about it, before we make that release
> branch, we should make a concerted effort to make certain we are using
> the latest versions of any library we have in OfBiz.

This thread isn't really about the release branch, it's about the  
board report (and I guess the +1 voting like thing is not really  
voting and just a way of expressing support). The board report only  
mentions "planning on" a release branch at the end of March.

There will certainly be separate threads and a voting thread about the  
actual release branch.

-David

+1


Il giorno 13/mar/09, alle ore 07:57, David E Jones ha scritto:

>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It  
> is available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before  
> I have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it  
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>

[Ashish Vijaywargiya-5]

Board report looks good to me.

+1

--
Ashish

David E Jones wrote:

>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>

[Ean Schuessler]

> David E Jones wrote:
> > I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> > available here:
> >
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03 

----- "Adam Heath" wrote:
> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks. Then I'll change to +1.

This looks good to me.

--
Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com
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