Comparing with OpenERP
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Interesting, notably the numbers of committers
https://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?project_0=Open+For+Business+Project+%28Apache+OFBiz%29&project_1=OpenERP Of course quantity is not quality, but it seems OpenERP has a better momentum than OFBiz, at the business level, I mean... Jacques |
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Some confusing things there. Most strangely, 4,909,882 lines added in the last 30 days yet 679,749 lines total project size? Something seems to be amiss.
To me, we should be creaming these guys on the AGPL license alone. I understand that many businesses are small enough to just "not care". Business owners with even a moderate legal awareness should be aware that the AGPL could complicate their ability to transition from a proprietary solution to an open one. ----- "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: > Interesting, notably the numbers of committers > https://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?project_0=Open+For+Business+Project+%28Apache+OFBiz%29&project_1=OpenERP > Of course quantity is not quality, but it seems OpenERP has a better momentum than OFBiz, at the business level, I mean... > Jacques -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [hidden email] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com |
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From: "Ean Schuessler" <[hidden email]>
> Some confusing things there. Most strangely, 4,909,882 lines added in the last 30 days yet 679,749 lines total project size? Something seems to be amiss. It's not quite clear indeed, maybe it does not represent well the activity. This is certainly more reliable https://www.ohloh.net/p/openerp/analyses/latest/languages_summary A comparaison https://www.ohloh.net/p/Apache-OFBiz/analyses/latest/languages_summary These are very rough numbers, only to be taken as statistical and trends I believe. Also I don't know much about OpenErp, but I think there are a lot of addons, which are no counted there. > To me, we should be creaming these guys on the AGPL license alone. > I understand that many businesses are small enough to just "not care". Yes they just don't care, because most of them don't built software to sell upon it, only use it as final users. >Business owners with even a moderate legal awareness should be aware that the AGPL could complicate their ability to transition from a proprietary solution to an open one. I'm not quire sure what you mean, but anyway I don't sell OpenErp ;) My primary intention was just to note that they have much more committers(?) doing much more commits(?) When you look into details numbers are certainly misleading: https://www.ohloh.net/p/openerp/contributors?page=47&sort=latest_commit&time_span=12+months (a lot of committers with only few commits) So yes, maybe not the right tool for that... Or at least would need more research in it... Jacques > > ----- "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: >> Interesting, notably the numbers of committers >> https://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?project_0=Open+For+Business+Project+%28Apache+OFBiz%29&project_1=OpenERP >> Of course quantity is not quality, but it seems OpenERP has a better momentum than OFBiz, at the business level, I mean... >> Jacques > > -- > Ean Schuessler, CTO > [hidden email] > 214-720-0700 x 315 > Brainfood, Inc. > http://www.brainfood.com |
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm not quire sure what you mean, but anyway I don't sell OpenErp ;) > > My primary intention was just to note that they have much more committers(?) doing much more commits(?) > When you look into details numbers are certainly misleading: > https://www.ohloh.net/p/openerp/contributors?page=47&sort=latest_commit&time_span=12+months > (a lot of committers with only few commits) > > So yes, maybe not the right tool for that... Or at least would need more research in it... I'm not sure if they do this, but that number of committers only really makes sense if there are different groups working on different things, or if 90% of the committers are only very rarely involved. If OFBiz turned into more of a series of projects (ie with addons and such) instead of a single big project, that would probably work much better. -David |
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Agreed. One thing that immediately jumps out is how much of their codebase is in Javascript. That may imply at least two functional teams right there. It makes me wonder if they are approach things as more of a REST/HTTP-RPC server written in Python that services a client written in JavaScript. I have been approaching most of my recent development efforts this way and I have to say that it allows you to create interfaces that are far more compelling. This "shiny object" phenomena may explain some of their popularity.
One thing waiting in the wings for Java are the new Nashorn JavaScript capabilities coming in JDK8. It may be worth considering a more aggressive adoption of JavaScript, especially in the widget code. If we begin to write things like form verification in JavaScript we could share code between the client and server and do things like giving the client immediate feedback when entering form data. ----- [hidden email] wrote: > On Jan 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm not quire sure what you mean, but anyway I don't sell OpenErp ;) > > > > My primary intention was just to note that they have much more committers(?) doing much more commits(?) > > When you look into details numbers are certainly misleading: > > https://www.ohloh.net/p/openerp/contributors?page=47&sort=latest_commit&time_span=12+months > > (a lot of committers with only few commits) > > > > So yes, maybe not the right tool for that... Or at least would need more research in it... > I'm not sure if they do this, but that number of committers only really makes sense if there are different groups working on different things, or if 90% of the committers are only very rarely involved. > If OFBiz turned into more of a series of projects (ie with addons and such) instead of a single big project, that would probably work much better. > -David -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [hidden email] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com |
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From: "Ean Schuessler" <[hidden email]>
> Agreed. One thing that immediately jumps out is how much of their codebase is in Javascript. That may imply at least two functional teams right there. It makes me wonder if they are approach things as more of a REST/HTTP-RPC server written in Python that services a client written in JavaScript. I have been approaching most of my recent development efforts this way and I have to say that it allows you to create interfaces that are far more compelling. This "shiny object" phenomena may explain some of their popularity. For javascipt Ohloh also counts js frameworks (obvious in OFBiz). So one more time not accurate enough, just tracks... > One thing waiting in the wings for Java are the new Nashorn JavaScript capabilities coming in JDK8. It may be worth considering a more aggressive adoption of JavaScript, especially in the widget code. If we begin to write things like form verification in JavaScript we could share code between the client and server and do things like giving the client immediate feedback when entering form data. Interesting, looking forward... Jacques > ----- [hidden email] wrote: >> On Jan 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > I'm not quire sure what you mean, but anyway I don't sell OpenErp ;) >> > >> > My primary intention was just to note that they have much more committers(?) doing much more commits(?) >> > When you look into details numbers are certainly misleading: >> > https://www.ohloh.net/p/openerp/contributors?page=47&sort=latest_commit&time_span=12+months >> > (a lot of committers with only few commits) >> > >> > So yes, maybe not the right tool for that... Or at least would need more research in it... >> I'm not sure if they do this, but that number of committers only really makes sense if there are different groups working on different things, or if 90% of the committers are only very rarely involved. >> If OFBiz turned into more of a series of projects (ie with addons and such) instead of a single big project, that would probably work much better. >> -David > > -- > Ean Schuessler, CTO > [hidden email] > 214-720-0700 x 315 > Brainfood, Inc. > http://www.brainfood.com |
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OpenERP uses javascript UI frameworks which require minimum javascript knowledge from the developers. Using javascript UI framework should be the way to go for web applicaton development.
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