Create/New Terminology Best Practice

[Adrian Crum]

The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
something new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a
new party, etc. Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are
titled Create [Artifact], and lately Edit [Artifact].

Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?

-Adrian

[Jacques Le Roux]

Create sounds good to me

Jacques

From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>
> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
> something new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a
> new party, etc. Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are
> titled Create [Artifact], and lately Edit [Artifact].
>
> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>
> -Adrian
>

[Bruno Busco]

...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of them
using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.

Thank you,
Bruno

2010/12/22 Adrian Crum <[hidden email]>

> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating something
> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new party, etc.
> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create [Artifact],
> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>
> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>
> -Adrian
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

from a UI point of view, New.
from a programing point of view Create.
I think how Edit got into it was,it assumes that there is already data,
so on the edit page is a New link.

Adrian Crum sent the following on 12/22/2010 11:03 AM:


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> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
> something new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a
> new party, etc. Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are
> titled Create [Artifact], and lately Edit [Artifact].
>
> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>
> -Adrian
>
>

[Adrian Crum]

I like Create New - it removes all ambiguity.

-Adrian

On 12/22/2010 12:48 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:

> ...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
> My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
> I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of them
> using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
> This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.
>
> Thank you,
> Bruno
>
> 2010/12/22 Adrian Crum<[hidden email]>
>
>> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating something
>> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new party, etc.
>> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create [Artifact],
>> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>>
>> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Yes, but as BJ outlined beware of cases where the same screen is used to create and edit!

Jacques

From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>

>I like Create New - it removes all ambiguity.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 12/22/2010 12:48 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>> ...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
>> My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
>> I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of them
>> using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
>> This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Bruno
>>
>> 2010/12/22 Adrian Crum<[hidden email]>
>>
>>> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating something
>>> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new party, etc.
>>> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create [Artifact],
>>> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>>>
>>> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Adrian Crum]

Screens that have dual purposes should update their titles accordingly.

-Adrian

On 12/22/2010 11:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Yes, but as BJ outlined beware of cases where the same screen is used to
> create and edit!
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>
>> I like Create New - it removes all ambiguity.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 12/22/2010 12:48 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>> ...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
>>> My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
>>> I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of them
>>> using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
>>> This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>> 2010/12/22 Adrian Crum<[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
>>>> something
>>>> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new
>>>> party, etc.
>>>> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create
>>>> [Artifact],
>>>> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>>>>
>>>> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

don't mean to hijack the thread but on the Create new pages would like
to see the pattern used in webtools to provide all the related Create
New related to the one being created.
So something is created all the links to what else needs to be created
is shown.

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Adrian Crum sent the following on 12/23/2010 8:49 AM:

> Screens that have dual purposes should update their titles accordingly.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 12/22/2010 11:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Yes, but as BJ outlined beware of cases where the same screen is used to
>> create and edit!
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>
>>> I like Create New - it removes all ambiguity.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> On 12/22/2010 12:48 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>> ...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
>>>> My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
>>>> I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of
>>>> them
>>>> using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
>>>> This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>> 2010/12/22 Adrian Crum<[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
>>>>> something
>>>>> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new
>>>>> party, etc.
>>>>> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create
>>>>> [Artifact],
>>>>> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[Bilgin Ibryam-2]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Adrian Crum <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I like Create New - it removes all ambiguity.
>
> -Adrian
>
>
I like it too

Bilgin

>
> On 12/22/2010 12:48 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>
>> ...and even "Create New [Artifact]" !!! :-)
>> My proposal is to use "New [Artifact]" everywhere.
>> I faced the same issue with the "create" buttons. I changed many of them
>> using the "New [Artifact]" pattern.
>> This is why now I suggest to use the same for the title.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Bruno
>>
>> 2010/12/22 Adrian Crum<[hidden email]>
>>
>>  The OFBiz UI is very inconsistent in the terminology for creating
>>> something
>>> new - for example creating a new order, a new fixed asset, a new party,
>>> etc.
>>> Some screens are titled New [Artifact], others are titled Create
>>> [Artifact],
>>> and lately Edit [Artifact].
>>>
>>> Can we agree on one term and add it to the UI Best Practices?
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>