Dead links from ofbiz.org website marketing page
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As part of my presentation to the rest of senior management, I need to show
examples of what other companies are doing with ofBiz's framework on the ecommerce side of things. I have went to every one of these websites and tried to get them to work, either by clicking directly on our ofbiz.org website or going to the top level of the listed domain. I have found a lot of them that are not working at this time or never will again. Who takes care of this on the ofbiz.org website? Is this something that should be posted on the JiRa site as a to-do? Below "DEAD" means either the domain has been abandoned, is really dead, or is quite evidently not running the ofBiz framework in any determinable fashion. I am sure this list is not 100% accurate, but we (I) look stupid when I say look at all these companies running ofBiz successfully and you have almost a 50% change of clicking a defunct or non-ofBiz website. Dead - 100OK (Chinese?) Dead - 1st Exclusive: Africlipse - Action Envelope Expired SSL - Adirondack Frostbite Dead - Alarm-Panels Dead - Alcoa Accessory Products - Artreach-Dallas - Beehot (Chinese) - Big Island Sam's - BioWaves - Born Gifted - Cactus Bike - CellularOne (flash front-end) - **Chocolate Secrets Dead - Computers Depot (Spanish) - Discovery Toys - DKNY - Donna Karan Collection - Energy Beam Sciences - Ethical Shopper - EX-Cel Agricultural Belting Dead - Expo Logistics del ICEX (Spanish) - Exterra / Ensystex - First Endurance Dead - Flip (the Bird) - Formative Fun Not ofBiz - Freakshop Dead - Gifted Expressions - Gracious Style - HortHippo.com - Ingeniu (Portuguese) Dead - Mad-man - Magellan University Expired SSL - Manchester Wolves - Messer Group (German, French) Dead - Metrobelle Dead - Oddesse (German/English) - Odyssey Toys - Old Glory - Partner Homes - the patchwork pig Dead - QPro Products - Really Cool Email Expired SSL - Richmond RiverDogs - Salton site PHP - Seidensticker Shirts (German) site PHP - Shirt Alarm (German) - ShockTroop.com - **Silver Wings Plus Club - Skyward Seen site FLASH - Special AI - Steel Goods - Steiner Sports Dead - Storit.com - Techmate Dead - TGoblin.com Dead - Tira Studios - totes >> ISOTONER Dead - UHL Shop - Ulta - Utah's Best - Xinit Systems Thanks -- Walter |
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Walter, This is something that I certainly appreciate help with maintaining. It is perfectly acceptable to submit a patch for the website/index.html file and the website/marketing.html file just as with any other file in OFBiz. However, if you (or anyone) does want to work on this PLEASE be more careful. The list below is helpful for checking out sites that have changed, but many of the "Dead" links are fine (like Alcoa) or that you say are PHP or something are really using OFBiz (100OK, though the link is now wrong; ). It doesn't mean there entire site is running on OFBiz, so you may need to look closer. Also if the site is under construction or has a deployment issue that's no reason to remove it from the list. Most of those sites you probably wouldn't want to show a client or management anyway because not much has been invested in their customization. In other words, it's great to have help with this, and would be great to have help looking for new sites as well as finding dead sites. Please keep a positive attitude about it though. The tone I'm seeing in this message is that you are frustrated because you thought you were getting something in this list that you didn't really get. There is nothing that says this is perfect, and like everything else it is a zero budget effort. If that's not cool with you, then doing something about it is great, and this message is a good start. So thank you for it. -David Walter Vaughan wrote: > As part of my presentation to the rest of senior management, I need to > show examples of what other companies are doing with ofBiz's framework > on the ecommerce side of things. I have went to every one of these > websites and tried to get them to work, either by clicking directly on > our ofbiz.org website or going to the top level of the listed domain. I > have found a lot of them that are not working at this time or never will > again. > > Who takes care of this on the ofbiz.org website? > Is this something that should be posted on the JiRa site as a to-do? > > Below "DEAD" means either the domain has been abandoned, is really dead, > or is quite evidently not running the ofBiz framework in any > determinable fashion. I am sure this list is not 100% accurate, but we > (I) look stupid when I say look at all these companies running ofBiz > successfully and you have almost a 50% change of clicking a defunct or > non-ofBiz website. > > Dead - 100OK (Chinese?) > Dead - 1st Exclusive: Africlipse > - Action Envelope > Expired SSL - Adirondack Frostbite > Dead - Alarm-Panels > Dead - Alcoa Accessory Products > - Artreach-Dallas > - Beehot (Chinese) > - Big Island Sam's > - BioWaves > - Born Gifted > - Cactus Bike > - CellularOne (flash front-end) > - **Chocolate Secrets > Dead - Computers Depot (Spanish) > - Discovery Toys > - DKNY > - Donna Karan Collection > - Energy Beam Sciences > - Ethical Shopper > - EX-Cel Agricultural Belting > Dead - Expo Logistics del ICEX (Spanish) > - Exterra / Ensystex > - First Endurance > Dead - Flip (the Bird) > - Formative Fun > Not ofBiz - Freakshop > Dead - Gifted Expressions > - Gracious Style > - HortHippo.com > - Ingeniu (Portuguese) > Dead - Mad-man > - Magellan University > Expired SSL - Manchester Wolves > - Messer Group (German, French) > Dead - Metrobelle > Dead - Oddesse (German/English) > - Odyssey Toys > - Old Glory > - Partner Homes > - the patchwork pig > Dead - QPro Products > - Really Cool Email > Expired SSL - Richmond RiverDogs > - Salton > site PHP - Seidensticker Shirts (German) > site PHP - Shirt Alarm (German) > - ShockTroop.com > - **Silver Wings Plus Club > - Skyward Seen > site FLASH - Special AI > - Steel Goods > - Steiner Sports > Dead - Storit.com > - Techmate > Dead - TGoblin.com > Dead - Tira Studios > - totes >> ISOTONER > Dead - UHL Shop > - Ulta > - Utah's Best > - Xinit Systems > > Thanks > > -- > Walter |
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> Most of those sites you probably wouldn't want to show a client or management anyway because not much has been invested in their customization.
They why are they on the front page? Perhaps a more management friendly strategy would be to have a 'showcase' on the front page, and then somewhere else a 'list of OFBiz users' with a disclaimer. You also say that it's not worth tossing a site because it's down, and that's reasonable. However, the cumulative effect of a number of sites not being available looks bad. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ |
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We have just rolled out an ofbiz ecommerce site. A lot was invested in the graphical layout and design of the site, and utilizes several facilites of OfBiz. Is there a way to submit sites like this to the showcase?
*Shameless plug withheld* > -----Original Message----- > From: David Welton [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:56 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Dead links from ofbiz.org website marketing page > > > > Most of those sites you probably wouldn't want to show a > client or management anyway because not much has been > invested in their customization. > > They why are they on the front page? Perhaps a more management > friendly strategy would be to have a 'showcase' on the front page, and > then somewhere else a 'list of OFBiz users' with a disclaimer. > > You also say that it's not worth tossing a site because it's down, and > that's reasonable. However, the cumulative effect of a number of > sites not being available looks bad. > > -- > David N. Welton > - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ > > Linux, Open Source Consulting > - http://www.dedasys.com/ > |
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On 6/27/06, Chris Gamble <[hidden email]> wrote:
> We have just rolled out an ofbiz ecommerce site. A lot was invested in the graphical layout and design of the site, and utilizes several facilites of OfBiz. Is there a way to submit sites like this to the showcase? > > *Shameless plug withheld* Nothing wrong with shameless plugs, in my opinion. Good publicity is a win all around - for you, and in terms of convincing others to use OFBiz(*), which, given some portion of people 'giving back' to the project, leads to better code for everyone. It's a virtuous circle! (*) or whatever open source project. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ |
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I think what we need is a budget or a volunteer to keep someone on staff to keep content fresh... That can probably come later though. A lot of this stuff will be reorganized (or just removed altogether perhaps...) in the OFBiz site redesign. It would be _really_ helpful for users of OFBiz to submit more case studies or let everyone know about their live sites. That would help everyone, including those sending in the information... I sent out a request for these a little while back in preparation for the site re-design, but so far no takers... -David David Welton wrote: >> Most of those sites you probably wouldn't want to show a client or >> management anyway because not much has been invested in their >> customization. > > They why are they on the front page? Perhaps a more management > friendly strategy would be to have a 'showcase' on the front page, and > then somewhere else a 'list of OFBiz users' with a disclaimer. > > You also say that it's not worth tossing a site because it's down, and > that's reasonable. However, the cumulative effect of a number of > sites not being available looks bad. > |
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Yeah, it can be as simple as a message to this mailing list with the URL and maybe a little background (and a case study or testimonial for the marketing page if you'd like), or even a patch sent into Jira that puts links in the index.html and marketing.html files. My opinion is: shameless or not, plug away! -David Chris Gamble wrote: > We have just rolled out an ofbiz ecommerce site. A lot was invested in the graphical layout and design of the site, and utilizes several facilites of OfBiz. Is there a way to submit sites like this to the showcase? > > *Shameless plug withheld* > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Welton [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:56 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Dead links from ofbiz.org website marketing page >> >> >>> Most of those sites you probably wouldn't want to show a >> client or management anyway because not much has been >> invested in their customization. >> >> They why are they on the front page? Perhaps a more management >> friendly strategy would be to have a 'showcase' on the front page, and >> then somewhere else a 'list of OFBiz users' with a disclaimer. >> >> You also say that it's not worth tossing a site because it's down, and >> that's reasonable. However, the cumulative effect of a number of >> sites not being available looks bad. >> >> -- >> David N. Welton >> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ >> >> Linux, Open Source Consulting >> - http://www.dedasys.com/ >> |
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In reply to this post by David E. Jones
David E. Jones wrote:
> Please > keep a positive attitude about it though. The tone I'm seeing in this > message is that you are frustrated because you thought you were getting > something in this list that you didn't really get. Ouch! I guess I needed some smiley faces! I am not frustrated. Rather I had this list and I thought it would be worthwhile to share. That list was to help me get a better idea as to the amount of ofBIZ DNA in various ecommerce sites. I apologize profusely if I wronged anyone or came off sounding harsh. However, I know from being a major contributor on an other list for over 12 years ([hidden email]) sometimes what I write in an email is not what everyone reads. -- Walter |
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Walter, It's no problem. I guess I tend to get more sensitive to such things as my email pile grows and grows. And yeah, that's a problem with email isn't it: you don't have the direct interaction with other cues to more thoroughly understand people. This list is certainly helpful, though as I mentioned more research would be helpful (if you or anyone else has time, of course). -David Walter Vaughan wrote: > David E. Jones wrote: >> Please keep a positive attitude about it though. The tone I'm seeing >> in this message is that you are frustrated because you thought you >> were getting something in this list that you didn't really get. > > Ouch! I guess I needed some smiley faces! I am not frustrated. Rather I > had this list and I thought it would be worthwhile to share. That list > was to help me get a better idea as to the amount of ofBIZ DNA in > various ecommerce sites. I apologize profusely if I wronged anyone or > came off sounding harsh. > > However, I know from being a major contributor on an other list for over > 12 years ([hidden email]) sometimes what I write in an > email is not what everyone reads. > > -- > Walter > > > > > |
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