Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
Locked
Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
 
|
As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a
complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a community, rather than one corporation. Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term tasks to accomplish it are not. This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this is great and amazing. However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and efficiently. In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and efficiently convey the community resources. It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. Proposed steps (draft): 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by volunteers in the community 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the approximate amount of hours per week 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the work will be committed more rapidly To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from private/public messages): http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow during the discussion. Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the community to grow and for new developers to become committers! Jacopo |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
Yeah,
that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that will actively participate to the development... and it would really help to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to contribute. My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page description only). Do you think it is enough? Jacopo Scott Gray wrote: > Hi Jacopo > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" might > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > rather than just show interest? > > Scott > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi to all, >> >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >> >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >> Enhance the integration with eBay >> Enhance the integration with Google Product >> >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to the >> new styles of ftl screens. >> >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task >> and when I can do it. >> >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by >> myself or I have not the access ? >> >> Thanks in advance >> Marco >> >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>> >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>> community, rather than one corporation. >>> >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>> >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this >>> is great and amazing. >>> >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>> efficiently. >>> >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>> >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>> >>> Proposed steps (draft): >>> >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>> volunteers in the community >>> >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>> approximate amount of hours per week >>> >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the >>> work will be committed more rapidly >>> >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>> private/public messages): >>> >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>> >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow >>> during the discussion. >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>> >>> Jacopo >>> > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
Looks good to me, once the page matures a bit we should look at making it
pretty prominent for newcomers (all those eyes are attached to brains :-) Also, if the page gets much longer we might want to look at creating a Table of Contents Regards Scott On 26/10/2007, Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Yeah, > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > contribute. > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > description only). > Do you think it is enough? > > Jacopo > > Scott Gray wrote: > > Hi Jacopo > > > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > might > > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > > rather than just show interest? > > > > Scott > > > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi to all, > >> > >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >> > >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >> Enhance the integration with eBay > >> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >> > >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to > the > >> new styles of ftl screens. > >> > >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those > task > >> and when I can do it. > >> > >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence > by > >> myself or I have not the access ? > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> Marco > >> > >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>> > >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>> > >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building > a > >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>> > >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>> is great and amazing. > >>> > >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of > the > >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>> efficiently. > >>> > >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>> > >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>> > >>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>> > >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement > to > >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>> volunteers in the community > >>> > >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>> > >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>> > >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a > draft > >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>> private/public messages): > >>> > >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>> > >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>> during the discussion. > >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the > above > >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > > > > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
Scott Gray wrote:
> Looks good to me, once the page matures a bit we should look at making it > pretty prominent for newcomers (all those eyes are attached to brains :-) > Yes, for example, if the experiment works, that page could be referenced by the "Features Coming Soon" link in the OFBiz's site. > Also, if the page gets much longer we might want to look at creating a Table > of Contents > Great idea: is there a quick way to add a TOC to Confluence? Jacopo > Regards > Scott > > On 26/10/2007, Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Yeah, >> >> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) >> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with >> design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" >> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that >> will actively participate to the development... and it would really help >> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to >> contribute. >> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources >> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. >> >> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the >> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or >> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page >> description only). >> Do you think it is enough? >> >> Jacopo >> >> Scott Gray wrote: >>> Hi Jacopo >>> >>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" >> might >>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment >>> rather than just show interest? >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi to all, >>>> >>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >>>> >>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >>>> Enhance the integration with eBay >>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product >>>> >>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to >> the >>>> new styles of ftl screens. >>>> >>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those >> task >>>> and when I can do it. >>>> >>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence >> by >>>> myself or I have not the access ? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> Marco >>>> >>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a >>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise >>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>>>> community, rather than one corporation. >>>>> >>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building >> a >>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term >>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>>>> >>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a >>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this >>>>> is great and amazing. >>>>> >>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of >> the >>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>>>> efficiently. >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>>>> >>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to >>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>>>> >>>>> Proposed steps (draft): >>>>> >>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement >> to >>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the >>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>>>> volunteers in the community >>>>> >>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>>>> approximate amount of hours per week >>>>> >>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at >>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the >>>>> work will be committed more rapidly >>>>> >>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a >> draft >>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>>>> private/public messages): >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>>>> >>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow >>>>> during the discussion. >>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the >> above >>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>>>> >>>>> Jacopo >>>>> >> >> > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
On 26/10/2007, Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Great idea: is there a quick way to add a TOC to Confluence? Don't know about quick but headings are automatically anchors which can be linked to, can't remember how exactly but here's an example http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/GAM Scott |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
In reply to this post by Jacopo Cappellato
I would like to put in :
Implementing Supplier Communications--EDI--Supply Chain UI is something similar to the Product store Email UI. would use contact mechs for setup of parms for sending and recieving data. Allow Services to be specified in the UI oh how to communicate. Note: the core is already implement in my code, and have Jiras (see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1286) just have to make patches. People interested: BJ Freeman People willing to help: BJ Freeman Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 10/26/2007 2:24 AM: > As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > > OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > community, rather than one corporation. > > Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a > universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > tasks to accomplish it are not. > > This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > is great and amazing. > > However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > efficiently. > > In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > efficiently convey the community resources. > > It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > > Proposed steps (draft): > > 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to > make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > volunteers in the community > > 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > approximate amount of hours per week > > 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > work will be committed more rapidly > > To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft > of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > private/public messages): > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > > of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > during the discussion. > Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > > Jacopo > > > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
Administrator
|
Please BJ (and all interested),
I think the best way is to directly fill a comment at the bottom of the page Thanks Jacques De : "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > I would like to put in : > Implementing Supplier Communications--EDI--Supply Chain > UI is something similar to the Product store Email UI. would use contact > mechs for setup of parms for sending and recieving data. Allow Services > to be specified in the UI oh how to communicate. > > Note: the core is already implement in my code, and have Jiras (see > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1286) > just have to make patches. > > People interested: BJ Freeman > People willing to help: BJ Freeman > > Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 10/26/2007 2:24 AM: > > As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > > complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > > automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > > > > OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > > community, rather than one corporation. > > > > Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a > > universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > > tasks to accomplish it are not. > > > > This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > > community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > > is great and amazing. > > > > However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > > OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > > efficiently. > > > > In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > > (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > > efficiently convey the community resources. > > > > It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > > enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > > > > Proposed steps (draft): > > > > 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > > community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to > > make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > > tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > > volunteers in the community > > > > 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > > approximate amount of hours per week > > > > 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > > details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > > least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > > work will be committed more rapidly > > > > To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft > > of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > > private/public messages): > > > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > > > > of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > > during the discussion. > > Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > > page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > > community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > > > > Jacopo > > > > > > > > > |
|
|
In reply to this post by Jacopo Cappellato
I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, add
me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to add a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am working on that now and will submit it when finished. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz Yeah, that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that will actively participate to the development... and it would really help to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to contribute. My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page description only). Do you think it is enough? Jacopo Scott Gray wrote: > Hi Jacopo > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" might > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > rather than just show interest? > > Scott > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi to all, >> >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >> >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >> Enhance the integration with eBay >> Enhance the integration with Google Product >> >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to the >> new styles of ftl screens. >> >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task >> and when I can do it. >> >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by >> myself or I have not the access ? >> >> Thanks in advance >> Marco >> >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>> >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>> community, rather than one corporation. >>> >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>> >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this >>> is great and amazing. >>> >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>> efficiently. >>> >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>> >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>> >>> Proposed steps (draft): >>> >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>> volunteers in the community >>> >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>> approximate amount of hours per week >>> >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the >>> work will be committed more rapidly >>> >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>> private/public messages): >>> >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>> >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow >>> during the discussion. >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>> >>> Jacopo >>> > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam.
Scott On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, add > me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to add > a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am working > on that now and will submit it when finished. > > Skip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > OFBiz > > > Yeah, > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > contribute. > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > description only). > Do you think it is enough? > > Jacopo > > Scott Gray wrote: > > Hi Jacopo > > > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > might > > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > > rather than just show interest? > > > > Scott > > > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi to all, > >> > >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >> > >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >> Enhance the integration with eBay > >> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >> > >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to the > >> new styles of ftl screens. > >> > >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task > >> and when I can do it. > >> > >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by > >> myself or I have not the access ? > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> Marco > >> > >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>> > >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>> > >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a > >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>> > >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>> is great and amazing. > >>> > >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>> efficiently. > >>> > >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>> > >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>> > >>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>> > >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to > >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>> volunteers in the community > >>> > >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>> > >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>> > >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft > >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>> private/public messages): > >>> > >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>> > >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>> during the discussion. > >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > > > > > > |
|
|
In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux
Jacques
How to you get a link to show up so you can create a comment? BTW, add me in to for online help. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz Please BJ (and all interested), I think the best way is to directly fill a comment at the bottom of the page Thanks Jacques De : "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > I would like to put in : > Implementing Supplier Communications--EDI--Supply Chain > UI is something similar to the Product store Email UI. would use contact > mechs for setup of parms for sending and recieving data. Allow Services > to be specified in the UI oh how to communicate. > > Note: the core is already implement in my code, and have Jiras (see > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1286) > just have to make patches. > > People interested: BJ Freeman > People willing to help: BJ Freeman > > Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 10/26/2007 2:24 AM: > > As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > > complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > > automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > > > > OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > > community, rather than one corporation. > > > > Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a > > universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > > tasks to accomplish it are not. > > > > This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > > community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > > is great and amazing. > > > > However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > > OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > > efficiently. > > > > In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > > (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > > efficiently convey the community resources. > > > > It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > > enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > > > > Proposed steps (draft): > > > > 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > > community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to > > make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > > tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > > volunteers in the community > > > > 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > > approximate amount of hours per week > > > > 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > > details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > > least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > > work will be committed more rapidly > > > > To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft > > of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > > private/public messages): > > > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > > > > of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > > during the discussion. > > Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > > page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > > community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > > > > Jacopo > > > > > > > > > |
|
|
In reply to this post by Scott Gray
Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in.
Skip -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. Scott On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, add > me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to add > a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am working > on that now and will submit it when finished. > > Skip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > OFBiz > > > Yeah, > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > contribute. > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > description only). > Do you think it is enough? > > Jacopo > > Scott Gray wrote: > > Hi Jacopo > > > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > might > > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > > rather than just show interest? > > > > Scott > > > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi to all, > >> > >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >> > >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >> Enhance the integration with eBay > >> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >> > >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to > >> new styles of ftl screens. > >> > >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task > >> and when I can do it. > >> > >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by > >> myself or I have not the access ? > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> Marco > >> > >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>> > >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>> > >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building > >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>> > >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>> is great and amazing. > >>> > >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>> efficiently. > >>> > >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>> > >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>> > >>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>> > >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement > >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>> volunteers in the community > >>> > >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>> > >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>> > >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a > >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>> private/public messages): > >>> > >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>> > >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>> during the discussion. > >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > > > > > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of
things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is still the best place for specific improvements. Scott On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. > > Skip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > OFBiz > > > You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. > > Scott > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, > add > > me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to > add > > a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am > working > > on that now and will submit it when finished. > > > > Skip > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > > OFBiz > > > > > > Yeah, > > > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > > contribute. > > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > > description only). > > Do you think it is enough? > > > > Jacopo > > > > Scott Gray wrote: > > > Hi Jacopo > > > > > > That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > > might > > > scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > > > rather than just show interest? > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> Hi to all, > > >> > > >> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > > >> > > >> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > > >> Enhance the integration with eBay > > >> Enhance the integration with Google Product > > >> > > >> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to > the > > >> new styles of ftl screens. > > >> > > >> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those > task > > >> and when I can do it. > > >> > > >> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence > by > > >> myself or I have not the access ? > > >> > > >> Thanks in advance > > >> Marco > > >> > > >>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > > >>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > > >>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > > >>> > > >>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > > >>> community, rather than one corporation. > > >>> > > >>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building > a > > >>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > > >>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > > >>> > > >>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > > >>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > > >>> is great and amazing. > > >>> > > >>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of > the > > >>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > > >>> efficiently. > > >>> > > >>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > > >>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > > >>> efficiently convey the community resources. > > >>> > > >>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > > >>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > > >>> > > >>> Proposed steps (draft): > > >>> > > >>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > > >>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement > to > > >>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > > >>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > > >>> volunteers in the community > > >>> > > >>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > > >>> approximate amount of hours per week > > >>> > > >>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > > >>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > > >>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > > >>> work will be committed more rapidly > > >>> > > >>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a > draft > > >>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > > >>> private/public messages): > > >>> > > >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > > >>> > > >>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > > >>> during the discussion. > > >>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the > above > > >>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > > >>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > > >>> > > >>> Jacopo > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
Yes, that was one thing I was going to comment on in response to Jacopo's initial write-up. The granularity on these should probably stay at a high level so the page doesn't get too cluttered and the discussion related to it can center more on objectives related to direction and priority rather than on how to do specific things or resolve little details. Also, after a brainstorming period for a bit we should probably have an off-shoot discussion about picking 3-4 top priorities. That would change frequently, but would help us all establish a more specific short-term direction. -David On Oct 26, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Scott Gray wrote: > I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of > things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep > this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is > still the best place for specific improvements. > > Scott > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. >> >> Skip >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for >> OFBiz >> >> >> You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. >> >> Scott >> >> On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. >>> Anyway, >> add >>> me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also >>> like to >> add >>> a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am >> working >>> on that now and will submit it when finished. >>> >>> Skip >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] >>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM >>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >>> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for >>> OFBiz >>> >>> >>> Yeah, >>> >>> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) >>> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with >>> design/development then should add their name to the "People >>> interested" >>> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the >>> ones that >>> will actively participate to the development... and it would >>> really help >>> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to >>> contribute. >>> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human >>> resources >>> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. >>> >>> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to >>> explain the >>> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or >>> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the >>> page >>> description only). >>> Do you think it is enough? >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>> Hi Jacopo >>>> >>>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per >>>> week" >>> might >>>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a >>>> commitment >>>> rather than just show interest? >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> Hi to all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >>>>> >>>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >>>>> Enhance the integration with eBay >>>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product >>>>> >>>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget >>>>> styles to >> the >>>>> new styles of ftl screens. >>>>> >>>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to >>>>> those >> task >>>>> and when I can do it. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in >>>>> confluence >> by >>>>> myself or I have not the access ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>> Marco >>>>> >>>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to >>>>>> build a >>>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable >>>>>> "enterprise >>>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>>>>> community, rather than one corporation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined >>>>>> ("building >> a >>>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and >>>>>> medium term >>>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: >>>>>> it is a >>>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own >>>>>> and this >>>>>> is great and amazing. >>>>>> >>>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the >>>>>> power of >> the >>>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>>>>> efficiently. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a >>>>>> means to >>>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Proposed steps (draft): >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to >>>>>> implement >> to >>>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the >>>>>> World?"; the >>>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>>>>> volunteers in the community >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>>>>> approximate amount of hours per week >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion >>>>>> dates; at >>>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so >>>>>> that the >>>>>> work will be committed more rapidly >>>>>> >>>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set >>>>>> up a >> draft >>>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>>>>> private/public messages): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>>>>> >>>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and >>>>>> grow >>>>>> during the discussion. >>>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the >> above >>>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> |
smime.p7s (3K)
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
Administrator
|
Yes, I agree, details should be discussed on ML. Else we will be flooded with details which is not the goal of this page.
Top priorities actually worked on and not only discussed have my preference too (though discussing is not useless, archives are there usable...) Jacques De : "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> > > Yes, that was one thing I was going to comment on in response to > Jacopo's initial write-up. > > The granularity on these should probably stay at a high level so the > page doesn't get too cluttered and the discussion related to it can > center more on objectives related to direction and priority rather > than on how to do specific things or resolve little details. > > Also, after a brainstorming period for a bit we should probably have > an off-shoot discussion about picking 3-4 top priorities. That would > change frequently, but would help us all establish a more specific > short-term direction. > > -David > > > On Oct 26, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Scott Gray wrote: > > > I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of > > things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep > > this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is > > still the best place for specific improvements. > > > > Scott > > > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. > >> > >> Skip > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] > >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >> OFBiz > >> > >> > >> You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. > >>> Anyway, > >> add > >>> me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also > >>> like to > >> add > >>> a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am > >> working > >>> on that now and will submit it when finished. > >>> > >>> Skip > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > >>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > >>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > >>> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >>> OFBiz > >>> > >>> > >>> Yeah, > >>> > >>> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > >>> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > >>> design/development then should add their name to the "People > >>> interested" > >>> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the > >>> ones that > >>> will actively participate to the development... and it would > >>> really help > >>> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > >>> contribute. > >>> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human > >>> resources > >>> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > >>> > >>> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to > >>> explain the > >>> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > >>> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the > >>> page > >>> description only). > >>> Do you think it is enough? > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > >>> Scott Gray wrote: > >>>> Hi Jacopo > >>>> > >>>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per > >>>> week" > >>> might > >>>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a > >>>> commitment > >>>> rather than just show interest? > >>>> > >>>> Scott > >>>> > >>>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi to all, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >>>>> > >>>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >>>>> Enhance the integration with eBay > >>>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >>>>> > >>>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget > >>>>> styles to > >> the > >>>>> new styles of ftl screens. > >>>>> > >>>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to > >>>>> those > >> task > >>>>> and when I can do it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in > >>>>> confluence > >> by > >>>>> myself or I have not the access ? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>> Marco > >>>>> > >>>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to > >>>>>> build a > >>>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable > >>>>>> "enterprise > >>>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>>>>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined > >>>>>> ("building > >> a > >>>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and > >>>>>> medium term > >>>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: > >>>>>> it is a > >>>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own > >>>>>> and this > >>>>>> is great and amazing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the > >>>>>> power of > >> the > >>>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>>>>> efficiently. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a > >>>>>> means to > >>>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to > >>>>>> implement > >> to > >>>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the > >>>>>> World?"; the > >>>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>>>>> volunteers in the community > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>>>>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion > >>>>>> dates; at > >>>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so > >>>>>> that the > >>>>>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set > >>>>>> up a > >> draft > >>>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>>>>> private/public messages): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>>>>> > >>>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and > >>>>>> grow > >>>>>> during the discussion. > >>>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the > >> above > >>>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacopo > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > |
|
|
In reply to this post by Scott Gray
A christmas list is fine, IMHO. Always nice to have more feedback than less. The list should
represent real-world requirements. With a longer list, we'll have more items to choose from. A long list isn't going to kill us, long as we can still exercise the prudence/right to pick the few we can commit to working on. A long list from my boss is a different story. :) Jonathon Scott Gray wrote: > I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of > things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep > this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is > still the best place for specific improvements. > > Scott > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. >> >> Skip >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for >> OFBiz >> >> >> You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. >> >> Scott >> >> On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, >> add >>> me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to >> add >>> a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am >> working >>> on that now and will submit it when finished. >>> >>> Skip >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] >>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM >>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >>> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for >>> OFBiz >>> >>> >>> Yeah, >>> >>> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) >>> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with >>> design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" >>> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that >>> will actively participate to the development... and it would really help >>> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to >>> contribute. >>> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources >>> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. >>> >>> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the >>> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or >>> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page >>> description only). >>> Do you think it is enough? >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>> Hi Jacopo >>>> >>>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" >>> might >>>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment >>>> rather than just show interest? >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> Hi to all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >>>>> >>>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >>>>> Enhance the integration with eBay >>>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product >>>>> >>>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to >> the >>>>> new styles of ftl screens. >>>>> >>>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those >> task >>>>> and when I can do it. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence >> by >>>>> myself or I have not the access ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>> Marco >>>>> >>>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a >>>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise >>>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>>>>> community, rather than one corporation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building >> a >>>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term >>>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a >>>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this >>>>>> is great and amazing. >>>>>> >>>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of >> the >>>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>>>>> efficiently. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to >>>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Proposed steps (draft): >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement >> to >>>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the >>>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>>>>> volunteers in the community >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>>>>> approximate amount of hours per week >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at >>>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the >>>>>> work will be committed more rapidly >>>>>> >>>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a >> draft >>>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>>>>> private/public messages): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>>>>> >>>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow >>>>>> during the discussion. >>>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the >> above >>>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
A long list is exactly what jira is, there is no need for that here.
This is about major goals that will help make OFBiz the leader in it's class :-) Scott On 27/10/2007, Jonathon -- Improov <[hidden email]> wrote: > A christmas list is fine, IMHO. Always nice to have more feedback than less. The list should > represent real-world requirements. > > With a longer list, we'll have more items to choose from. A long list isn't going to kill us, long > as we can still exercise the prudence/right to pick the few we can commit to working on. A long > list from my boss is a different story. :) > > Jonathon > > Scott Gray wrote: > > I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of > > things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep > > this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is > > still the best place for specific improvements. > > > > Scott > > > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. > >> > >> Skip > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] > >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >> OFBiz > >> > >> > >> You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, > >> add > >>> me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to > >> add > >>> a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am > >> working > >>> on that now and will submit it when finished. > >>> > >>> Skip > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > >>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > >>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > >>> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >>> OFBiz > >>> > >>> > >>> Yeah, > >>> > >>> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > >>> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > >>> design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > >>> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > >>> will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > >>> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > >>> contribute. > >>> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > >>> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > >>> > >>> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > >>> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > >>> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > >>> description only). > >>> Do you think it is enough? > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > >>> Scott Gray wrote: > >>>> Hi Jacopo > >>>> > >>>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > >>> might > >>>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > >>>> rather than just show interest? > >>>> > >>>> Scott > >>>> > >>>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi to all, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >>>>> > >>>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >>>>> Enhance the integration with eBay > >>>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >>>>> > >>>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to > >> the > >>>>> new styles of ftl screens. > >>>>> > >>>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those > >> task > >>>>> and when I can do it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence > >> by > >>>>> myself or I have not the access ? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>> Marco > >>>>> > >>>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>>>>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building > >> a > >>>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>>>>> is great and amazing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of > >> the > >>>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>>>>> efficiently. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement > >> to > >>>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>>>>> volunteers in the community > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>>>>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>>>>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a > >> draft > >>>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>>>>> private/public messages): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>>>>> > >>>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>>>>> during the discussion. > >>>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the > >> above > >>>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacopo > >>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
|
|
"A long list is exactly what jira is".
Man, you are exactly right about that Scott. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:43 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz A long list is exactly what jira is, there is no need for that here. This is about major goals that will help make OFBiz the leader in it's class :-) Scott On 27/10/2007, Jonathon -- Improov <[hidden email]> wrote: > A christmas list is fine, IMHO. Always nice to have more feedback than less. The list should > represent real-world requirements. > > With a longer list, we'll have more items to choose from. A long list isn't going to kill us, long > as we can still exercise the prudence/right to pick the few we can commit to working on. A long > list from my boss is a different story. :) > > Jonathon > > Scott Gray wrote: > > I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of > > things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep > > this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is > > still the best place for specific improvements. > > > > Scott > > > > On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. > >> > >> Skip > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Scott Gray [mailto:[hidden email]] > >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >> OFBiz > >> > >> > >> You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On 27/10/2007, skip@theDevers <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. > >> add > >>> me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to > >> add > >>> a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am > >> working > >>> on that now and will submit it when finished. > >>> > >>> Skip > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > >>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > >>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > >>> Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > >>> OFBiz > >>> > >>> > >>> Yeah, > >>> > >>> that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > >>> The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > >>> design/development then should add their name to the "People > >>> list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > >>> will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > >>> to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > >>> contribute. > >>> My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > >>> to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > >>> > >>> However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > >>> meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > >>> month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > >>> description only). > >>> Do you think it is enough? > >>> > >>> Jacopo > >>> > >>> Scott Gray wrote: > >>>> Hi Jacopo > >>>> > >>>> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per > >>> might > >>>> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > >>>> rather than just show interest? > >>>> > >>>> Scott > >>>> > >>>> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi to all, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >>>>> > >>>>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >>>>> Enhance the integration with eBay > >>>>> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >>>>> > >>>>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to > >> the > >>>>> new styles of ftl screens. > >>>>> > >>>>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those > >> task > >>>>> and when I can do it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in > >> by > >>>>> myself or I have not the access ? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>> Marco > >>>>> > >>>>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>>>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>>>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>>>>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building > >> a > >>>>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>>>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>>>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>>>>> is great and amazing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of > >> the > >>>>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>>>>> efficiently. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>>>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>>>>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>>>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>>>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to > >> to > >>>>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>>>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>>>>> volunteers in the community > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>>>>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>>>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>>>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>>>>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a > >> draft > >>>>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>>>>> private/public messages): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>>>>> > >>>>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>>>>> during the discussion. > >>>>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the > >> above > >>>>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>>>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacopo > >>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
|
In reply to this post by SkipDever
Skip,
I've added you to the two tasks. About the "Account Receivable" work you are completing, I'd say that we don't need to add an entry there; that page is intended for helping communication and collaboration on tasks but it is not the only channel (and will never be) to bring in new features and improvements. If you have already improved the billing account and are willing to contribute your work in Jira, that is great and we all look forward at reviewing and committing your patches. Thanks, Jacopo skip@theDevers wrote: > I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, add > me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to add > a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am working > on that now and will submit it when finished. > > Skip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > OFBiz > > > Yeah, > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > contribute. > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > description only). > Do you think it is enough? > > Jacopo > > Scott Gray wrote: >> Hi Jacopo >> >> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > might >> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment >> rather than just show interest? >> >> Scott >> >> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi to all, >>> >>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: >>> >>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) >>> Enhance the integration with eBay >>> Enhance the integration with Google Product >>> >>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to the >>> new styles of ftl screens. >>> >>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task >>> and when I can do it. >>> >>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by >>> myself or I have not the access ? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> Marco >>> >>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a >>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise >>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). >>>> >>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a >>>> community, rather than one corporation. >>>> >>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a >>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term >>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. >>>> >>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a >>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this >>>> is great and amazing. >>>> >>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the >>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and >>>> efficiently. >>>> >>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan >>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and >>>> efficiently convey the community resources. >>>> >>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to >>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. >>>> >>>> Proposed steps (draft): >>>> >>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the >>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to >>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the >>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by >>>> volunteers in the community >>>> >>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the >>>> approximate amount of hours per week >>>> >>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the >>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at >>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the >>>> work will be committed more rapidly >>>> >>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft >>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from >>>> private/public messages): >>>> >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw >>>> >>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow >>>> during the discussion. >>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above >>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the >>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> > > |
Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz
|
Administrator
|
Jacopo, all,
Could we have a possible links to detailled pages ? Those pages could turn to be places to centralise information about a topic using detailled descriptions or links to Nabble Threads, Jira issues, etc. Jacques ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]> À : <[hidden email]> Envoyé : samedi 27 octobre 2007 07:39 Objet : Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz > Skip, > > I've added you to the two tasks. > About the "Account Receivable" work you are completing, I'd say that we > don't need to add an entry there; that page is intended for helping > communication and collaboration on tasks but it is not the only channel > (and will never be) to bring in new features and improvements. > If you have already improved the billing account and are willing to > contribute your work in Jira, that is great and we all look forward at > reviewing and committing your patches. > > Thanks, > > Jacopo > > skip@theDevers wrote: > > I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway, add > > me in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like to add > > a new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I am working > > on that now and will submit it when finished. > > > > Skip > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]] > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for > > OFBiz > > > > > > Yeah, > > > > that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) > > The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help with > > design/development then should add their name to the "People interested" > > list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that > > will actively participate to the development... and it would really help > > to have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to > > contribute. > > My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resources > > to work on it... it would be just a waste of time. > > > > However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain the > > meaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week or > > month; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the page > > description only). > > Do you think it is enough? > > > > Jacopo > > > > Scott Gray wrote: > >> Hi Jacopo > >> > >> That page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week" > > might > >> scare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitment > >> rather than just show interest? > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On 26/10/2007, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> Hi to all, > >>> > >>> I'm interested to contribute to those taks: > >>> > >>> Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) > >>> Enhance the integration with eBay > >>> Enhance the integration with Google Product > >>> > >>> Why don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles to the > >>> new styles of ftl screens. > >>> > >>> My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to those task > >>> and when I can do it. > >>> > >>> Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluence by > >>> myself or I have not the access ? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance > >>> Marco > >>> > >>>> As you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a > >>>> complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterprise > >>>> automation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). > >>>> > >>>> OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a > >>>> community, rather than one corporation. > >>>> > >>>> Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("building a > >>>> universal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium term > >>>> tasks to accomplish it are not. > >>>> > >>>> This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a > >>>> community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and this > >>>> is great and amazing. > >>>> > >>>> However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power of the > >>>> OFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and > >>>> efficiently. > >>>> > >>>> In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan > >>>> (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and > >>>> efficiently convey the community resources. > >>>> > >>>> It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means to > >>>> enhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. > >>>> > >>>> Proposed steps (draft): > >>>> > >>>> 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for the > >>>> community: "what do you think the community members have to implement to > >>>> make OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; the > >>>> tasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by > >>>> volunteers in the community > >>>> > >>>> 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the > >>>> approximate amount of hours per week > >>>> > >>>> 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define the > >>>> details, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at > >>>> least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that the > >>>> work will be committed more rapidly > >>>> > >>>> To give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up a draft > >>>> of a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from > >>>> private/public messages): > >>>> > >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw > >>>> > >>>> of course this is only a first step, the list will change and grow > >>>> during the discussion. > >>>> Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to the above > >>>> page), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the > >>>> community to grow and for new developers to become committers! > >>>> > >>>> Jacopo > >>>> > > > > > > |
«
Return to OFBiz - User
|
1 view|%1 views
| Free forum by Nabble | Edit this page |