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Divesh Dutta

Designs behind OFBiz

Hello all,

I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed
when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where
when one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind
when OFBiz was started.

How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time
went by , How these designs changed?

Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta

Ashish Vijaywargiya-5

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

Hello Divesh,

This is very good post and I would wait to see comment from other senior members involved in this project.
Here are few points that I was thinking since last few days and putting here for your reference.

-- Initially the project was following the design pattern provided in the book "Core J2ee Patterns" http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/.

-- As the time passed away community discussed so many things on the mailing list and then did vote to move further with the best things in favor of the project. Here are few things that I remembered.

--- Initially OFBiz was distributed with jsp files for presentation purpose and then later we have switched to FTL's.

--- JPublish was used initially - I am not able to memorize too much details on this project. In past there were no / less activity in this project so community decided to move something better and stable in this area. Now the project is moved to GoogleCode - Please refer: http://code.google.com/p/jpublish/

--- Move from Beanshell to Groovy. The activity on Beanshell project was almost nil so community decided to move to the alternate framework for scripting purpose. There were a long discussion on mailing list to choose which one from available alternates i.e Groovy & Ruby scripting language. Then due to so many similarity in Groovy code with Java Syntax community moved along with Groovy project. AFAIK beanshell was one man army open source project - I can be wrong on this point but again this is in my memory.

--- Another interesting document: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw

HTH!

--
Ashish

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Divesh Dutta [hidden email] wrote:

Hello all,

I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.

How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time went by , How these designs changed?

Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta

Divesh Dutta wrote:

Hello all,

I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.

How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time went by , How these designs changed?

Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta

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Jacques Le Roux

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

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Hi Ashish, Divesh,

I would say that some of OFBiz inspiration is at http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books

Also we moved from
* Jetty to Tomcat (OFBiz version 3)
* Minerva to DBCP (just after OFBiz version 4)
* JOTM to Geronimo Transaction manager (OFBiz version 4)

Also ECAs replaced previous attempts on workflow engines (notably Shark which was actually an enhancement of the 1st OFBiz workflow)

It's all from the top of my head right now

HTH

Jacques

----- Original Message -----
From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Designs behind OFBiz

Hello Divesh,

This is very good post and I would wait to see comment from other senior members involved in this project.
Here are few points that I was thinking since last few days and putting here for your reference.

-- Initially the project was following the design pattern provided in the book "Core J2ee Patterns" http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/.

-- As the time passed away community discussed so many things on the mailing list and then did vote to move further with the best things in favor of the project. Here are few things that I remembered.

--- Initially OFBiz was distributed with jsp files for presentation purpose and then later we have switched to FTL's.

--- JPublish was used initially - I am not able to memorize too much details on this project. In past there were no / less activity in this project so community decided to move something better and stable in this area. Now the project is moved to GoogleCode - Please refer: http://code.google.com/p/jpublish/

--- Move from Beanshell to Groovy. The activity on Beanshell project was almost nil so community decided to move to the alternate framework for scripting purpose. There were a long discussion on mailing list to choose which one from available alternates i.e Groovy & Ruby scripting language. Then due to so many similarity in Groovy code with Java Syntax community moved along with Groovy project. AFAIK beanshell was one man army open source project - I can be wrong on this point but again this is in my memory.

--- Another interesting document: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw

HTH!

--
Ashish

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Divesh Dutta <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.

How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time went by , How these designs changed?

Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta

Divesh Dutta wrote:
Hello all,

I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.

How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time went by , How these designs changed?

Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta

David E. Jones-2

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

You might find the old conference videos interesting. There is a lot
of history and background presented there, as well as what was going
on around the time of those conferences.

-David

On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi Ashish, Divesh,
>
> I would say that some of OFBiz inspiration is at http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books
>
> Also we moved from
> * Jetty to Tomcat (OFBiz version 3)
> * Minerva to DBCP (just after OFBiz version 4)
> * JOTM to Geronimo Transaction manager (OFBiz version 4)
>
> Also ECAs replaced previous attempts on workflow engines (notably
> Shark which was actually an enhancement of the 1st OFBiz workflow)
>
> It's all from the top of my head right now
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Designs behind OFBiz
>
>
> Hello Divesh,
>
> This is very good post and I would wait to see comment from other
> senior members involved in this project.
> Here are few points that I was thinking since last few days and
> putting here for your reference.
>
> -- Initially the project was following the design pattern provided
> in the book "Core J2ee Patterns" http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/.
>
> -- As the time passed away community discussed so many things on
> the mailing list and then did vote to move further with the best
> things in favor of the project. Here are few things that I remembered.
>
> --- Initially OFBiz was distributed with jsp files for presentation
> purpose and then later we have switched to FTL's.
>
> --- JPublish was used initially - I am not able to memorize too
> much details on this project. In past there were no / less activity
> in this project so community decided to move something better and
> stable in this area. Now the project is moved to GoogleCode - Please
> refer: http://code.google.com/p/jpublish/
>
> --- Move from Beanshell to Groovy. The activity on Beanshell
> project was almost nil so community decided to move to the alternate
> framework for scripting purpose. There were a long discussion on
> mailing list to choose which one from available alternates i.e
> Groovy & Ruby scripting language. Then due to so many similarity in
> Groovy code with Java Syntax community moved along with Groovy
> project. AFAIK beanshell was one man army open source project - I
> can be wrong on this point but again this is in my memory.
>
> --- Another interesting document: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw
>
> HTH!
>
> --
> Ashish
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Divesh Dutta <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design
> developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any
> documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design
> patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.
>
> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as
> time went by , How these designs changed?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Divesh Dutta
>
>
>
>
> Divesh Dutta wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design
> developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any
> documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design
> patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.
>
> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as
> time went by , How these designs changed?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Divesh Dutta

David E. Jones-2

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

Forgot the link:

http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html

-David

On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> You might find the old conference videos interesting. There is a lot
> of history and background presented there, as well as what was going
> on around the time of those conferences.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Hi Ashish, Divesh,
>>
>> I would say that some of OFBiz inspiration is at http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books
>>
>> Also we moved from
>> * Jetty to Tomcat (OFBiz version 3)
>> * Minerva to DBCP (just after OFBiz version 4)
>> * JOTM to Geronimo Transaction manager (OFBiz version 4)
>>
>> Also ECAs replaced previous attempts on workflow engines (notably
>> Shark which was actually an enhancement of the 1st OFBiz workflow)
>>
>> It's all from the top of my head right now
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: Designs behind OFBiz
>>
>>
>> Hello Divesh,
>>
>> This is very good post and I would wait to see comment from other
>> senior members involved in this project.
>> Here are few points that I was thinking since last few days and
>> putting here for your reference.
>>
>> -- Initially the project was following the design pattern provided
>> in the book "Core J2ee Patterns" http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/.
>>
>> -- As the time passed away community discussed so many things on
>> the mailing list and then did vote to move further with the best
>> things in favor of the project. Here are few things that I
>> remembered.
>>
>> --- Initially OFBiz was distributed with jsp files for presentation
>> purpose and then later we have switched to FTL's.
>>
>> --- JPublish was used initially - I am not able to memorize too
>> much details on this project. In past there were no / less activity
>> in this project so community decided to move something better and
>> stable in this area. Now the project is moved to GoogleCode -
>> Please refer: http://code.google.com/p/jpublish/
>>
>> --- Move from Beanshell to Groovy. The activity on Beanshell
>> project was almost nil so community decided to move to the
>> alternate framework for scripting purpose. There were a long
>> discussion on mailing list to choose which one from available
>> alternates i.e Groovy & Ruby scripting language. Then due to so
>> many similarity in Groovy code with Java Syntax community moved
>> along with Groovy project. AFAIK beanshell was one man army open
>> source project - I can be wrong on this point but again this is in
>> my memory.
>>
>> --- Another interesting document: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> --
>> Ashish
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Divesh Dutta <[hidden email]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design
>> developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any
>> documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design
>> patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.
>>
>> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as
>> time went by , How these designs changed?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Divesh Dutta
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Divesh Dutta wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design
>> developed when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any
>> documentation, Where when one get information like, What Design
>> patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz was started.
>>
>> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as
>> time went by , How these designs changed?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Divesh Dutta
>

Ashish Vijaywargiya

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

Thanks David & Jacques for your valuable comment.

--
Ashish

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:44 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Forgot the link:
>
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html
>
> -David
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>
>> You might find the old conference videos interesting. There is a lot of
>> history and background presented there, as well as what was going on around
>> the time of those conferences.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ashish, Divesh,
>>>
>>> I would say that some of OFBiz inspiration is at
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books
>>>
>>> Also we moved from
>>> * Jetty to Tomcat (OFBiz version 3)
>>> * Minerva to DBCP (just after OFBiz version 4)
>>> * JOTM to Geronimo Transaction manager (OFBiz version 4)
>>>
>>> Also ECAs replaced previous attempts on workflow engines (notably Shark
>>> which was actually an enhancement of the 1st OFBiz workflow)
>>>
>>> It's all from the top of my head right now
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Designs behind OFBiz
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Divesh,
>>>
>>> This is very good post and I would wait to see comment from other senior
>>> members involved in this project.
>>> Here are few points that I was thinking since last few days and putting
>>> here for your reference.
>>>
>>> -- Initially the project was following the design pattern provided in the
>>> book "Core J2ee Patterns" http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/.
>>>
>>> -- As the time passed away community discussed so many things on the
>>> mailing list and then did vote to move further with the best things in favor
>>> of the project. Here are few things that I remembered.
>>>
>>> --- Initially OFBiz was distributed with jsp files for presentation
>>> purpose and then later we have switched to FTL's.
>>>
>>> --- JPublish was used initially - I am not able to memorize too much
>>> details on this project. In past there were no / less activity in this
>>> project so community decided to move something better and stable in this
>>> area. Now the project is moved to GoogleCode - Please refer:
>>> http://code.google.com/p/jpublish/
>>>
>>> --- Move from Beanshell to Groovy. The activity on Beanshell project was
>>> almost nil so community decided to move to the alternate framework for
>>> scripting purpose. There were a long discussion on mailing list to choose
>>> which one from available alternates i.e Groovy & Ruby scripting language.
>>> Then due to so many similarity in Groovy code with Java Syntax community
>>> moved along with Groovy project. AFAIK beanshell was one man army open
>>> source project - I can be wrong on this point but again this is in my
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> --- Another interesting document: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw
>>>
>>> HTH!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ashish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Divesh Dutta <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed
>>> when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when
>>> one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz
>>> was started.
>>>
>>> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time
>>> went by , How these designs changed?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Divesh Dutta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Divesh Dutta wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I would like to know that, Was there any Blue Print, or Design developed
>>> when OFBiz was imagined or started. Do we have any documentation, Where when
>>> one get information like, What Design patterns were kept in mind when OFBiz
>>> was started.
>>>
>>> How OFBiz evolved or What was initial thought behind this and as time
>>> went by , How these designs changed?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Divesh Dutta
>>>
>>
>>
>

Ean Schuessler

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

In reply to this post by David E. Jones-2

David E Jones wrote:
>
> You might find the old conference videos interesting. There is a lot
> of history and background presented there, as well as what was going
> on around the time of those conferences.
Speaking of old conference videos... I spoke with Denise Cooper in DC
when I was at the Gov2.0 conference and she said we were in danger of
losing our ApacheCon slot if we didn't get them something definitive on
our talks.

The slot looks frighteningly bare here:

http://www.us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/schedule/grid

What's the status on that action?

--
Ean Schuessler, CTO
[hidden email]
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com

David E. Jones-2

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

We've had the day full for months now, all details are here:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Track+at+ApacheCon+US+2009

They recently asked for speaker bios and I just got all of those in an
up today and let them know. Hopefully they'll get the information
moved over.

I'm not sure what the problem was, for some reason they never posted
the schedule before when I let them know it was finalized.

-David

On Sep 24, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote:

> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>> You might find the old conference videos interesting. There is a lot
>> of history and background presented there, as well as what was going
>> on around the time of those conferences.
> Speaking of old conference videos... I spoke with Denise Cooper in DC
> when I was at the Gov2.0 conference and she said we were in danger of
> losing our ApacheCon slot if we didn't get them something definitive
> on
> our talks.
>
> The slot looks frighteningly bare here:
>
> http://www.us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/schedule/grid
>
> What's the status on that action?
>
> --
> Ean Schuessler, CTO
> [hidden email]
> 214-720-0700 x 315
> Brainfood, Inc.
> http://www.brainfood.com
>

Ean Schuessler

Re: Designs behind OFBiz

Ok, great. I didn't know whether Denise knew what she was talking about
but when I saw that blank page on the Apachecon schedule I was concerned.

David E Jones wrote:

> We've had the day full for months now, all details are here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Track+at+ApacheCon+US+2009
>
> They recently asked for speaker bios and I just got all of those in an
> up today and let them know. Hopefully they'll get the information
> moved over.
>
> I'm not sure what the problem was, for some reason they never posted
> the schedule before when I let them know it was finalized.

Ean Schuessler, CTO
[hidden email]
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com