Dev - [OFBiz] subprojects <Bump> Attn: David Welton
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I believe the answer is yes, a CLA is still required. The CLA is a specific license grant to the ASF and not something more generic. In other words, a project can use the Apache 2.0 license but with their own copyright and such. This doesn't mean the ASF owns the code or has a license grant, so I think it has to be explicitly granted. I'm not totally sure about this, but as I understand it this is how things work. We have started adding Apache 2.0 headers with the copyright assigned to the ASF, but we can only really do this because we are already in the incubator. -David On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:29 PM, Chris Howe wrote: > This may have been overlooked because of the end of > the month... > > David Welton, > > Would iCLAs be necessary if the subproject hosted on > sf.net used the Apache 2.0 license? > > --- David Welton <davidnwelton at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/26/06, Chris Howe <cjhowe76013 at yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>> sourceforge.net just completed their svn beta and >> are >>> now offering svn repository for projects that they >>> host. Would it be better for >> specialized/incomplete >>> applications to create their own project there >> until >>> they reach a level of maturity that the Ofbiz >> project >>> desires? At that point, the OFBiz team could ask >> that >>> it be merged into the Apache OFBiz project. >> >> If they went that route, and wanted to aim for >> re-integration, they'd >> have to make sure that they keep a tight rein on >> licensing. It's >> likely they'd have to do iCLA's for new people >> they'd picked up. To >> become a subproject they'd also likely have to go >> through the whole >> incubation thing, although it would be simpler at >> that point because >> (if all goes well:-) OFBiz will be an established >> part of the ASF at >> that time. >> >> -- >> David N. Welton >> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ >> >> Linux, Open Source Consulting >> - http://www.dedasys.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev at lists.ofbiz.org >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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Re: Dev - [OFBiz] subprojects <Bump> Attn: David Welton
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This would be a good question for the Apache incubator general list. I'm not sure if there is any way to do this and avoid the initial trickiness with licensing. If everyone is already an ASF contributor (ie has a CLA on file) it is easier. It is also easier if a single entity owns the entire copyright, and then a single license grant can be used (instead of a bunch of CLAs). But I don't know, being Apache 2.0 licensed may help make this a lot easier... Certain licenses are more compatible with the Apache license and code under those licenses can be distributed with ASF projects, so as a worst case scenario that can always be done... We may have to do some of this with OFBiz, but we're still a ways off from knowing for sure with various parts and people. -David On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Chris Howe wrote: > So then, what license should a derivative work be > under so that there isn't an issue with it being added > to the OFBiz project (or any project) but still make > it so that someone cannot copyright the derivative > work and lockout the true author? > > --- "David E. Jones" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> I believe the answer is yes, a CLA is still >> required. The CLA is a >> specific license grant to the ASF and not something >> more generic. In >> other words, a project can use the Apache 2.0 >> license but with their >> own copyright and such. This doesn't mean the ASF >> owns the code or >> has a license grant, so I think it has to be >> explicitly granted. >> >> I'm not totally sure about this, but as I understand >> it this is how >> things work. We have started adding Apache 2.0 >> headers with the >> copyright assigned to the ASF, but we can only >> really do this because >> we are already in the incubator. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:29 PM, Chris Howe wrote: >> >>> This may have been overlooked because of the end >> of >>> the month... >>> >>> David Welton, >>> >>> Would iCLAs be necessary if the subproject hosted >> on >>> sf.net used the Apache 2.0 license? >>> >>> --- David Welton <davidnwelton at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/26/06, Chris Howe <cjhowe76013 at yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> sourceforge.net just completed their svn beta >> and >>>> are >>>>> now offering svn repository for projects that >> they >>>>> host. Would it be better for >>>> specialized/incomplete >>>>> applications to create their own project there >>>> until >>>>> they reach a level of maturity that the Ofbiz >>>> project >>>>> desires? At that point, the OFBiz team could >> ask >>>> that >>>>> it be merged into the Apache OFBiz project. >>>> >>>> If they went that route, and wanted to aim for >>>> re-integration, they'd >>>> have to make sure that they keep a tight rein on >>>> licensing. It's >>>> likely they'd have to do iCLA's for new people >>>> they'd picked up. To >>>> become a subproject they'd also likely have to go >>>> through the whole >>>> incubation thing, although it would be simpler at >>>> that point because >>>> (if all goes well:-) OFBiz will be an established >>>> part of the ASF at >>>> that time. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David N. Welton >>>> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ >>>> >>>> Linux, Open Source Consulting >>>> - http://www.dedasys.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dev mailing list >>>> Dev at lists.ofbiz.org >>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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