Hi David,
i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me that you did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be set to the 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase invoice; only for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go from 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? -- Regards, Hans Bakker ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) If you want to verify that this message really originates from from the above person, download the public key from: http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev invTabbar.patch (1K) Download Attachment |
Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that Si did a little while back. The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and purchase invoices (respectively). In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't received it yet. -David On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > Hi David, > > i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me > that you > did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. > > currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be > set to the > 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. > > I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase > invoice; only > for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go > from > 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... > > can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? > > -- > Regards, > Hans Bakker > ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) > > If you want to verify that this message really originates from > from the above person, download the public key from: > http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc > <invTabbar.patch> > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
Hi David,
This was part of the commit that you commented on. I basically reverted this because that's where I thought the problem was. Si David E. Jones wrote: > > Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that > Si did a little while back. > > The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it > was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and > purchase invoices (respectively). > > In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales > invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the > case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase > invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't > received it yet. > > -David > > > On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me >> that you >> did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. >> >> currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be set >> to the >> 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. >> >> I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase >> invoice; only >> for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go from >> 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... >> >> can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Hans Bakker >> ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) >> >> If you want to verify that this message really originates from >> from the above person, download the public key from: >> http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc >> <invTabbar.patch> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >Dev mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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One more thing about this I forgot to mention: these addition states will be more commonly used for automated invoice and payment systems where you can actually get an immediately reply when an invoice is received, for example. -David On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:17 PM, David E. Jones wrote: > > Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit > that Si did a little while back. > > The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it > was about the sent and received states only being used for sales > and purchase invoices (respectively). > > In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a > sales invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it > is the case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a > purchase invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you > haven't received it yet. > > -David > > > On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified >> me that you >> did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. >> >> currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be >> set to the >> 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. >> >> I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase >> invoice; only >> for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go >> from >> 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... >> >> can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Hans Bakker >> ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) >> >> If you want to verify that this message really originates from >> from the above person, download the public key from: >> http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc >> <invTabbar.patch> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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David,
I still have problems with the 'send' status: how can you enter a purchase invoice if you did not receive it and it was only sent by the supplier? you do not know the content..... Do you think the 'ready' state is for a purchase invoice too? or better have no difference in the status between a purchase and sales invoice? Hans On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:17, David E. Jones wrote: > Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that > Si did a little while back. > > The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it > was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and > purchase invoices (respectively). > > In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales > invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the > case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase > invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't > received it yet. > > -David > > On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me > > that you > > did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. > > > > currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be > > set to the > > 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. > > > > I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase > > invoice; only > > for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go > > from > > 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... > > > > can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Hans Bakker > > ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) > > > > If you want to verify that this message really originates from > > from the above person, download the public key from: > > http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc > > <invTabbar.patch> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev attachment0 (196 bytes) Download Attachment |
Both sales & purchase invoices should have the READY state. It marks
the state at which they are "official" and no longer changeable. The others I don't have a strong opinion on, but are you saying after READY, a purchase invoice can't be COMPLETE? Even after applying payments to it? That sounds like a bug we should fix. Si Hans Bakker wrote: >David, > >I still have problems with the 'send' status: how can you enter a purchase >invoice if you did not receive it and it was only sent by the supplier? you >do not know the content..... > >Do you think the 'ready' state is for a purchase invoice too? > >or better have no difference in the status between a purchase and sales >invoice? > >Hans > > > >On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:17, David E. Jones wrote: > > >>Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that >>Si did a little while back. >> >>The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it >>was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and >>purchase invoices (respectively). >> >>In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales >>invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the >>case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase >>invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't >>received it yet. >> >>-David >> >>On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: >> >> >>>Hi David, >>> >>>i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me >>>that you >>>did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. >>> >>>currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be >>>set to the >>>'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. >>> >>>I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase >>>invoice; only >>>for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go >>>from >>>'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... >>> >>>can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? >>> >>>-- >>>Regards, >>>Hans Bakker >>>ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) >>> >>>If you want to verify that this message really originates from >>>from the above person, download the public key from: >>>http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc >>><invTabbar.patch> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Dev mailing list >>>[hidden email] >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >Dev mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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I currently use the system manually:
enter a sales invoice, set to ready then to send (by email) and paid when fully applied enter a purchase invoice (or copy from the payment) set it to received and then to paid when the application is complete.... Hans On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:19, David E. Jones wrote: > One more thing about this I forgot to mention: these addition states > will be more commonly used for automated invoice and payment systems > where you can actually get an immediately reply when an invoice is > received, for example. > > -David > > On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:17 PM, David E. Jones wrote: > > Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit > > that Si did a little while back. > > > > The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it > > was about the sent and received states only being used for sales > > and purchase invoices (respectively). > > > > In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a > > sales invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it > > is the case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a > > purchase invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you > > haven't received it yet. > > > > -David > > > > On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > >> Hi David, > >> > >> i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified > >> me that you > >> did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. > >> > >> currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be > >> set to the > >> 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. > >> > >> I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase > >> invoice; only > >> for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go > >> from > >> 'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... > >> > >> can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Hans Bakker > >> ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) > >> > >> If you want to verify that this message really originates from > >> from the above person, download the public key from: > >> http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc > >> <invTabbar.patch> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Regards, Hans Bakker ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) If you want to verify that this message really originates from from the above person, download the public key from: http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev attachment0 (196 bytes) Download Attachment |
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are you sure that the received status cannot be used for that, when it is
official? On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:29, Si Chen wrote: > Both sales & purchase invoices should have the READY state. It marks > the state at which they are "official" and no longer changeable. > > The others I don't have a strong opinion on, but are you saying after > READY, a purchase invoice can't be COMPLETE? Even after applying > payments to it? That sounds like a bug we should fix. > > Si > > Hans Bakker wrote: > >David, > > > >I still have problems with the 'send' status: how can you enter a purchase > >invoice if you did not receive it and it was only sent by the supplier? > > you do not know the content..... > > > >Do you think the 'ready' state is for a purchase invoice too? > > > >or better have no difference in the status between a purchase and sales > >invoice? > > > >Hans > > > >On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:17, David E. Jones wrote: > >>Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that > >>Si did a little while back. > >> > >>The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it > >>was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and > >>purchase invoices (respectively). > >> > >>In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales > >>invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the > >>case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase > >>invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't > >>received it yet. > >> > >>-David > >> > >>On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: > >>>Hi David, > >>> > >>>i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me > >>>that you > >>>did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. > >>> > >>>currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be > >>>set to the > >>>'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. > >>> > >>>I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase > >>>invoice; only > >>>for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go > >>>from > >>>'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... > >>> > >>>can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Regards, > >>>Hans Bakker > >>>ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) > >>> > >>>If you want to verify that this message really originates from > >>>from the above person, download the public key from: > >>>http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc > >>><invTabbar.patch> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Dev mailing list > >>>[hidden email] > >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Dev mailing list > >[hidden email] > >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Regards, Hans Bakker ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) If you want to verify that this message really originates from from the above person, download the public key from: http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev attachment0 (196 bytes) Download Attachment |
No, because an invoice could be received but then would need to be
reviewed and approved by someone at the company. Si Hans Bakker wrote: >are you sure that the received status cannot be used for that, when it is >official? > > >On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:29, Si Chen wrote: > > >>Both sales & purchase invoices should have the READY state. It marks >>the state at which they are "official" and no longer changeable. >> >>The others I don't have a strong opinion on, but are you saying after >>READY, a purchase invoice can't be COMPLETE? Even after applying >>payments to it? That sounds like a bug we should fix. >> >>Si >> >>Hans Bakker wrote: >> >> >>>David, >>> >>>I still have problems with the 'send' status: how can you enter a purchase >>>invoice if you did not receive it and it was only sent by the supplier? >>>you do not know the content..... >>> >>>Do you think the 'ready' state is for a purchase invoice too? >>> >>>or better have no difference in the status between a purchase and sales >>>invoice? >>> >>>Hans >>> >>>On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:17, David E. Jones wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit that >>>>Si did a little while back. >>>> >>>>The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it >>>>was about the sent and received states only being used for sales and >>>>purchase invoices (respectively). >>>> >>>>In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a sales >>>>invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it is the >>>>case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a purchase >>>>invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you haven't >>>>received it yet. >>>> >>>>-David >>>> >>>>On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi David, >>>>> >>>>>i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified me >>>>>that you >>>>>did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. >>>>> >>>>>currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be >>>>>set to the >>>>>'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. >>>>> >>>>>I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase >>>>>invoice; only >>>>>for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go >>>>>from >>>>>'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... >>>>> >>>>>can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Hans Bakker >>>>>ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) >>>>> >>>>>If you want to verify that this message really originates from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>from the above person, download the public key from: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc >>>>><invTabbar.patch> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Dev mailing list >>>>>[hidden email] >>>>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Dev mailing list >>>[hidden email] >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Dev mailing list >>[hidden email] >>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >Dev mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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Hans,
So does that mean that a purchase invoice does turn to PAID when payment application is complete? Because in your earlier email you said: currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be set to the 'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. Si Hans Bakker wrote: >I currently use the system manually: > >enter a sales invoice, set to ready then to send (by email) and paid when >fully applied > >enter a purchase invoice (or copy from the payment) set it to received and >then to paid when the application is complete.... > >Hans > > >On Thursday 09 March 2006 08:19, David E. Jones wrote: > > >>One more thing about this I forgot to mention: these addition states >>will be more commonly used for automated invoice and payment systems >>where you can actually get an immediately reply when an invoice is >>received, for example. >> >>-David >> >>On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:17 PM, David E. Jones wrote: >> >> >>>Actually I haven't seen this patch, I only commented on a commit >>>that Si did a little while back. >>> >>>The issue I had with that commit was not about the ready state, it >>>was about the sent and received states only being used for sales >>>and purchase invoices (respectively). >>> >>>In other words, I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a >>>sales invoice as received if you get word from the customer that it >>>is the case. Also I think it is perfectly valid to want to mark a >>>purchase invoice as sent if you know they have sent it but you >>>haven't received it yet. >>> >>>-David >>> >>>On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi David, >>>> >>>>i forwarded a change to the invoice tabbar to Si and he notified >>>>me that you >>>>did you had objections against the change in the attached patch. >>>> >>>>currently the problem exists that a purchase invoice can only be >>>>set to the >>>>'ready' state and then the status cannot be manually changed anymore. >>>> >>>>I think that the 'ready' state is not applicable for a purchase >>>>invoice; only >>>>for a sales invoice and that the purchase invoice status should go >>>>from >>>>'process' to 'received', a status only used on a purchase invoice.... >>>> >>>>can you tell me what the your objection against this change is? >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Regards, >>>>Hans Bakker >>>>ANT Websystems Co.,Ltd (http://www.antwebsystems.com) >>>> >>>>If you want to verify that this message really originates from >>>>from the above person, download the public key from: >>>>http://www.antwebsystems.com/hbakkerAntwebsystems.asc >>>><invTabbar.patch> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Dev mailing list >>>>[hidden email] >>>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Dev mailing list >>>[hidden email] >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >Dev mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
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