Draft message to announce the new release Apache OFBiz 16.11.01

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Hi all,

I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw

Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
send it out in a couple of days.

Thanks,

Jacopo

[Sharan-F]

Hi Jacopo

I've added a sentence about dedicating the 16.11 releases to Adrian. (I
know at the time we were thinking 14.12 but as it didn't happen, I've
added it to 16.11 so I  hope people will be OK with this).

https://s.apache.org/IHfa

Thanks
Sharan


On 27/11/16 15:19, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>
> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
> send it out in a couple of days.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacopo
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

Hi Jacopo,

should we not mention the bigger changes like the migration to Gradle in
a more prominent way?

I think such changes disappear in the huge list of Jira references in
the release notes and it is important for current users as it will need
some migration in production use.

Regards,

Michael


Am 27.11.16 um 15:19 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:

> Hi all,
>
> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>
> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
> send it out in a couple of days.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacopo
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Thank you Sharan

Jacopo

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Sharan Foga <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Jacopo
>
> I've added a sentence about dedicating the 16.11 releases to Adrian. (I
> know at the time we were thinking 14.12 but as it didn't happen, I've added
> it to 16.11 so I  hope people will be OK with this).
>
> https://s.apache.org/IHfa
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> On 27/11/16 15:19, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>>
>> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
>> send it out in a couple of days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Jacopo,
>
> should we not mention the bigger changes like the migration to Gradle in a
> more prominent way?
>

I totally agree, we can/should expand the message to highlight the most
relevant changes.
Anyone should feel free to edit the document, thanks!

Jacopo

>
> I think such changes disappear in the huge list of Jira references in the
> release notes and it is important for current users as it will need some
> migration in production use.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> Am 27.11.16 um 15:19 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
>
> Hi all,
>>
>> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>>
>> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
>> send it out in a couple of days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>
>

[taher]

- Gradle
- plugin system
- refactoring start and base
- org.apache.ofbiz
- remote libraries
- unit testing system

I think those are some of the big changes worth highlighting

On Nov 27, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jacopo Cappellato" <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jacopo,
> >
> > should we not mention the bigger changes like the migration to Gradle in
> a
> > more prominent way?
> >
>
> I totally agree, we can/should expand the message to highlight the most
> relevant changes.
> Anyone should feel free to edit the document, thanks!
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> >
> > I think such changes disappear in the huge list of Jira references in the
> > release notes and it is important for current users as it will need some
> > migration in production use.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 27.11.16 um 15:19 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
> >>
> >> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
> >> send it out in a couple of days.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Other changes which will have an impact on existing code bases, come to mind

  * Paths changes for Minilang, Java (main, test), Groovy and Freemarker files
  * specialpurpose is back
  * A lot of auto-engine use

BTW, why R16.11.01 starts at 31/Dec/14? https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/OFBIZ/versions

Thanks

Jacques


Le 27/11/2016 à 18:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> - Gradle
> - plugin system
> - refactoring start and base
> - org.apache.ofbiz
> - remote libraries
> - unit testing system
>
> I think those are some of the big changes worth highlighting
>
> On Nov 27, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jacopo Cappellato" <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jacopo,
>>>
>>> should we not mention the bigger changes like the migration to Gradle in
>> a
>>> more prominent way?
>>>
>> I totally agree, we can/should expand the message to highlight the most
>> relevant changes.
>> Anyone should feel free to edit the document, thanks!
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>>> I think such changes disappear in the huge list of Jira references in the
>>> release notes and it is important for current users as it will need some
>>> migration in production use.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 27.11.16 um 15:19 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>>>>
>>>> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before we
>>>> send it out in a couple of days.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Jacques, Taher, Michael,

please feel free to expand the announce message with the items that are
important; considering that it is an announcement and not a user guide we
may consider to list the main features in a Wiki page and add the url to it
to the announcement.

Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
(14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
date.

Jacopo

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Other changes which will have an impact on existing code bases, come to
> mind
>
>  * Paths changes for Minilang, Java (main, test), Groovy and Freemarker
> files
>  * specialpurpose is back
>  * A lot of auto-engine use
>
> BTW, why R16.11.01 starts at 31/Dec/14? https://issues.apache.org/jira
> /plugins/servlet/project-config/OFBIZ/versions
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 27/11/2016 à 18:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>
>> - Gradle
>> - plugin system
>> - refactoring start and base
>> - org.apache.ofbiz
>> - remote libraries
>> - unit testing system
>>
>> I think those are some of the big changes worth highlighting
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jacopo Cappellato" <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jacopo,
>>>>
>>>> should we not mention the bigger changes like the migration to Gradle in
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> more prominent way?
>>>>
>>>> I totally agree, we can/should expand the message to highlight the most
>>> relevant changes.
>>> Anyone should feel free to edit the document, thanks!
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>>
>>> I think such changes disappear in the huge list of Jira references in the
>>>> release notes and it is important for current users as it will need some
>>>> migration in production use.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.11.16 um 15:19 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>> I have created a draft for the message to announce the new release:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide your feedback and help in editing/completing it before
>>>>> we
>>>>> send it out in a couple of days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> [...] considering that it is an announcement and not a user guide we may
> consider to list the main features in a Wiki page and add the url to it to
> the announcement.
>

A better solution could be that of adding the highlights to a new section
at the top of the release notes:

http://ofbiz.apache.org/release-notes-16.11.01.html

Jacopo

[taher]

Oops, I already added the highlights, you can move them anywhere you like.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > [...] considering that it is an announcement and not a user guide we may
> > consider to list the main features in a Wiki page and add the url to it
> to
> > the announcement.
> >
>
> A better solution could be that of adding the highlights to a new section
> at the top of the release notes:
>
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/release-notes-16.11.01.html
>
> Jacopo
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Thank you, it is great to have a short summary in the announce.
We could expand the "release notes" if we want to expand the information we
provide.
The link to the release notes is already in the announcement.

Jacopo


On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Oops, I already added the highlights, you can move them anywhere you like.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > [...] considering that it is an announcement and not a user guide we
> may
> > > consider to list the main features in a Wiki page and add the url to it
> > to
> > > the announcement.
> > >
> >
> > A better solution could be that of adding the highlights to a new section
> > at the top of the release notes:
> >
> > http://ofbiz.apache.org/release-notes-16.11.01.html
> >
> > Jacopo
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
> date.
>
> Jacopo

Thanks Jacopo,

I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released branch?

Jacques

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

You are right, what you propose is better.
I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.

Thanks,

Jacopo

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>
>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
>> date.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>
> Thanks Jacopo,
>
> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released branch?
>
> Jacques
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Thanks for your feedback.
Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
required to complete the release workflow.

Jacopo


On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> You are right, what you propose is better.
> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>
>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
>>> date.
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>
>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>> branch?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>
>

[taher]

+1

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback.
> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
> required to complete the release workflow.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > You are right, what you propose is better.
> > I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jacopo
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
> >>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
> >>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since
> that
> >>> date.
> >>>
> >>> Jacopo
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks Jacopo,
> >>
> >> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
> >> branch?
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

+1

Thanks Jacopo,

Regards,

Michael

Am 28.11.16 um 12:53 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:

> Thanks for your feedback.
> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
> required to complete the release workflow.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> You are right, what you propose is better.
>> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>>
>>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>>> branch?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>

[Sharan-F]

+1

Thanks
Sharan

On 28/11/16 12:53, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback.
> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
> required to complete the release workflow.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> You are right, what you propose is better.
>> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>>
>>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>>> branch?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

I just want to add the 3 points I mentioned, where should I preferably put them?

Jacques


Le 28/11/2016 à 12:53, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

> Thanks for your feedback.
> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
> required to complete the release workflow.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> You are right, what you propose is better.
>> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since that
>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>>
>>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>>> branch?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

I have included your items and slightly modified some sentences; here is
the updated version:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw

Jacopo

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I just want to add the 3 points I mentioned, where should I preferably put
> them?
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 28/11/2016 à 12:53, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
>> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
>> required to complete the release workflow.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You are right, what you propose is better.
>>> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since
>>>>> that
>>>>> date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>>>
>>>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>>>> branch?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks,

Sounds good to me

If I get a chance before you use the file, I'll explain a bit what "source files" "de facto standards" are

Jacques


Le 28/11/2016 à 15:06, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

> I have included your items and slightly modified some sentences; here is
> the updated version:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PB78Aw
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I just want to add the 3 points I mentioned, where should I preferably put
>> them?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 28/11/2016 à 12:53, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>> Are we good with the current version of the announcement? I am planning to
>>> send the announcement today and then move on with a few other steps
>>> required to complete the release workflow.
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are right, what you propose is better.
>>>> I have updated the start date in Jira accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Le 28/11/2016 à 08:13, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>>> Jacques, as regards your question about the start date of the release
>>>>>> version in Jira, it is the date when the previous active release branch
>>>>>> (14.12) was cut: the new release contains all the new features since
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Jacopo,
>>>>> I thought we would start from R13.07 since it was the last released
>>>>> branch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>