Enforce customer registration before buying

[Bernat Arlandis]

Hello everyone.

I'm trying ofbiz from the trunk (a month old checkout) for my employer,
TSolucio.

We're trying to setup a shop to sell digital products, but it seems the
only way to download them is thru the order history. That's ok but now
we want to require customers to register before buying. What's the
easiest way to do this?

Thanks in advance.

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Bernat Arlandis<[hidden email]>
JPL TSolució S.L.

[hans_bakker]

That is currently already the case:

select the products -> register -> checkout -> confirm order

Regards,
hans



On 03/07/2012 06:21 PM, Bernat Arlandis wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm trying ofbiz from the trunk (a month old checkout) for my
> employer, TSolucio.
>
> We're trying to setup a shop to sell digital products, but it seems
> the only way to download them is thru the order history. That's ok but
> now we want to require customers to register before buying. What's the
> easiest way to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

[Bernat Arlandis]

On 07/03/12 12:35, Hans Bakker wrote:
> That is currently already the case:
>
> select the products -> register -> checkout -> confirm order
>

I don't want customers to be able to buy without registering, but in my
tests I could checkout without registering. Why?

--
Bernat Arlandis<[hidden email]>
JPL TSolució S.L.

[hans_bakker]

without registering?

who you are going to charge for the sale?

sounds strange,

please let us know the sequence of events how you can buy without
registering....

Regards,
Hans

On 03/07/2012 06:44 PM, Bernat Arlandis wrote:
> On 07/03/12 12:35, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> That is currently already the case:
>>
>> select the products -> register -> checkout -> confirm order
>>
>
> I don't want customers to be able to buy without registering, but in
> my tests I could checkout without registering. Why?
>

[Bernat Arlandis]

On 07/03/12 13:06, Hans Bakker wrote:
> without registering?
>
> who you are going to charge for the sale?
>
> sounds strange,
>
> please let us know the sequence of events how you can buy without
> registering....
>

1. Add digital product to the cart.
2. Select Checkout in the cart.
3. Select Checkout again in the section "Checkout without login" at the
bottom of the page.
4. Fill formularies and confirm order.

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Bernat Arlandis<[hidden email]>
JPL TSolució S.L.

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Bernat & Hans:

With OFBiz out-of-the-box (OOTB) you can always buy anonymously. Perhaps
the confusion might be in what Bernat is calling "registration".
(Creating an account with a user login vs. creating a unique user
identifier record in the Party table. A Party record is always created
(OOTB) when the order is created. This unique record (partyId) is what
identifies "who is charged for the sale". What doesn't get created
automatically is the user login.

In many business environments, "registration" suggests creating an
account with a user login.

Bernat, one thing you could do is remove the "Checkout without Login"
link(s). There may be more than one link - since there is the one page
checkout and the multi-page checkout and who knows how many other
examples of "checking out". That way, the user is forced to create an
account with a login as they progress through checkout.

Best Regards,
Ruth
http://www.myofbiz.com



On 3/7/12 7:12 AM, Bernat Arlandis wrote:

> On 07/03/12 13:06, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> without registering?
>>
>> who you are going to charge for the sale?
>>
>> sounds strange,
>>
>> please let us know the sequence of events how you can buy without
>> registering....
>>
>
> 1. Add digital product to the cart.
> 2. Select Checkout in the cart.
> 3. Select Checkout again in the section "Checkout without login" at
> the bottom of the page.
> 4. Fill formularies and confirm order.
>

[Bernat Arlandis]

On 07/03/12 13:47, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Bernat & Hans:
>
> With OFBiz out-of-the-box (OOTB) you can always buy anonymously.
> Perhaps the confusion might be in what Bernat is calling
> "registration". (Creating an account with a user login vs. creating a
> unique user identifier record in the Party table. A Party record is
> always created (OOTB) when the order is created. This unique record
> (partyId) is what identifies "who is charged for the sale". What
> doesn't get created automatically is the user login.
>
> In many business environments, "registration" suggests creating an
> account with a user login.
>
> Bernat, one thing you could do is remove the "Checkout without Login"
> link(s). There may be more than one link - since there is the one page
> checkout and the multi-page checkout and who knows how many other
> examples of "checking out". That way, the user is forced to create an
> account with a login as they progress through checkout.
>

Yes, I was referring to that. I should have said "without creating an
account". Sorry for the confussion, and thanks to both Ruth and Hans for
your answers.

--
Bernat Arlandis<[hidden email]>
JPL TSolució S.L.

[Pierre Smits]

Maybe Bernat wanted a more obvious self registration process before letting
users access the webshop.

Regards,

Pierre

2012/3/7 Ruth Hoffman <[hidden email]>

> Hi Bernat & Hans:
>
> With OFBiz out-of-the-box (OOTB) you can always buy anonymously. Perhaps
> the confusion might be in what Bernat is calling "registration". (Creating
> an account with a user login vs. creating a unique user identifier record
> in the Party table. A Party record is always created (OOTB) when the order
> is created. This unique record (partyId) is what identifies "who is charged
> for the sale". What doesn't get created automatically is the user login.
>
> In many business environments, "registration" suggests creating an account
> with a user login.
>
> Bernat, one thing you could do is remove the "Checkout without Login"
> link(s). There may be more than one link - since there is the one page
> checkout and the multi-page checkout and who knows how many other examples
> of "checking out". That way, the user is forced to create an account with a
> login as they progress through checkout.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth
> http://www.myofbiz.com
>
>
>
>
> On 3/7/12 7:12 AM, Bernat Arlandis wrote:
>
>> On 07/03/12 13:06, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> without registering?
>>>
>>> who you are going to charge for the sale?
>>>
>>> sounds strange,
>>>
>>> please let us know the sequence of events how you can buy without
>>> registering....
>>>
>>>
>> 1. Add digital product to the cart.
>> 2. Select Checkout in the cart.
>> 3. Select Checkout again in the section "Checkout without login" at the
>> bottom of the page.
>> 4. Fill formularies and confirm order.
>>
>>

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Pierre:
Maybe. Any suggestions on a best way to do that? I'd be interested in
hearing about other user experiences (what works/doesn't work) for
inserting forced registration into the existing OOTB solution.

Best Regards,
Ruth Hoffman
http://www.myofbiz.com


On 3/7/12 8:06 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

> Maybe Bernat wanted a more obvious self registration process before letting
> users access the webshop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> 2012/3/7 Ruth Hoffman<[hidden email]>
>
>> Hi Bernat&  Hans:
>>
>> With OFBiz out-of-the-box (OOTB) you can always buy anonymously. Perhaps
>> the confusion might be in what Bernat is calling "registration". (Creating
>> an account with a user login vs. creating a unique user identifier record
>> in the Party table. A Party record is always created (OOTB) when the order
>> is created. This unique record (partyId) is what identifies "who is charged
>> for the sale". What doesn't get created automatically is the user login.
>>
>> In many business environments, "registration" suggests creating an account
>> with a user login.
>>
>> Bernat, one thing you could do is remove the "Checkout without Login"
>> link(s). There may be more than one link - since there is the one page
>> checkout and the multi-page checkout and who knows how many other examples
>> of "checking out". That way, the user is forced to create an account with a
>> login as they progress through checkout.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ruth
>> http://www.myofbiz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/12 7:12 AM, Bernat Arlandis wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/03/12 13:06, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> without registering?
>>>>
>>>> who you are going to charge for the sale?
>>>>
>>>> sounds strange,
>>>>
>>>> please let us know the sequence of events how you can buy without
>>>> registering....
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 1. Add digital product to the cart.
>>> 2. Select Checkout in the cart.
>>> 3. Select Checkout again in the section "Checkout without login" at the
>>> bottom of the page.
>>> 4. Fill formularies and confirm order.
>>>
>>>

[Bernat Arlandis]

On 07/03/12 14:19, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Pierre:
> Maybe. Any suggestions on a best way to do that? I'd be interested in
> hearing about other user experiences (what works/doesn't work) for
> inserting forced registration into the existing OOTB solution.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth Hoffman
> http://www.myofbiz.com
>
>
> On 3/7/12 8:06 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>> Maybe Bernat wanted a more obvious self registration process before
>> letting
>> users access the webshop.

Hi Pierre:
Ruth's proposal will match what I was looking for. I'd prefer some
setting that had the same effect without touching the screen templates
but it's good enough. I'm interested to know about others' experiences too.

Thanks!

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Bernat Arlandis<[hidden email]>
JPL TSolució S.L.