Github & notifications

[Pierre Smits-3]

Hi All,

With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see also
other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
those PullRequests are initiated.

It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification to
the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk of
losing these contributors.


Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer

[Michael Brohl-3]

I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
committers get those emails.

IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about the
contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
discussion etc. regarding the contribution.

I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase transparency.

Regards,

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:

> Hi All,
>
> With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see also
> other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
> those PullRequests are initiated.
>
> It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification to
> the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk of
> losing these contributors.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>

[Gil Portenseigne]

+1

If we do not decide of replacing Jira with Github or another BT, we must
keep Jira for contribution tracking.

There might be a jira integration in github for that ?

Gil

On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 12:16:11PM +0100, Michael Brohl wrote:

> I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> committers get those emails.
>
> IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
> contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about the
> contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions, discussion
> etc. regarding the contribution.
>
> I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase transparency.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Brohl
>
> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
>
>
> Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see also
> > other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
> > those PullRequests are initiated.
> >
> > It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> > contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification to
> > the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk of
> > losing these contributors.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
>

[Pierre Smits-3]

I agree. We should avoid having contributors create Github issues. That
requires education each time it happens. But human nature....
IMO, we can only suggest to the contributor who provides a PR that isn't
referencing a JIRA ticket that he must do so. And if it doesn't happen
close the PR without any other action.

I have looked into the aspect of having new JIRA tickets appear in the
GitHub repository as issues. Unfortunately I could not find a working
solution.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:26 PM Gil Portenseigne <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> +1
>
> If we do not decide of replacing Jira with Github or another BT, we must
> keep Jira for contribution tracking.
>
> There might be a jira integration in github for that ?
>
> Gil
>
> On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 12:16:11PM +0100, Michael Brohl wrote:
> > I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> > committers get those emails.
> >
> > IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
> > contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about the
> > contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions, discussion
> > etc. regarding the contribution.
> >
> > I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
> transparency.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael Brohl
> >
> > ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> >
> >
> > Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see
> also
> > > other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > > Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
> > > those PullRequests are initiated.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> > > contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification
> to
> > > the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk
> of
> > > losing these contributors.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > > since 2008*
> > > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> > >
> >
>
>
>

[Swapnil M Mane]

+1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.

Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
Committers team [1],
So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
notifications.

We can use [hidden email] list for the activities related
to pull request
(again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).

"Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR notification
but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
[hidden email] should work for us.

As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.

[1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
The link above is accessible to members only.

[2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...

Best regards,
Swapnil M Mane,
ofbiz.apache.org


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> committers get those emails.
>
> IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
> contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about the
> contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
> discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
>
> I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase transparency.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Brohl
>
> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
>
>
> Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see
> also
> > other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
> > those PullRequests are initiated.
> >
> > It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> > contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification to
> > the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk of
> > losing these contributors.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
>
>

[Pierre Smits-3]

Why is this overview (https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers)
hidden?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> +1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.
>
> Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
> Committers team [1],
> So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
> notifications.
>
> We can use [hidden email] list for the activities related
> to pull request
> (again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).
>
> "Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
> Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
> Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR notification
> but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
> [hidden email] should work for us.
>
> As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.
>
> [1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> The link above is accessible to members only.
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> ofbiz.apache.org
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> > committers get those emails.
> >
> > IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
> > contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about the
> > contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
> > discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
> >
> > I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
> transparency.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael Brohl
> >
> > ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> >
> >
> > Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github (see
> > also
> > > other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > > Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list when
> > > those PullRequests are initiated.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> > > contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a notification
> to
> > > the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk
> of
> > > losing these contributors.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> > privileges)
> > > since 2008*
> > > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Swapnil M Mane]

Hi Pierre,

As mentioned, in my last email,
https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
The link above is accessible to members only, it is GitHub related thing,
don't have much idea on it.
Just for information, currently, it showing there are 9 members in this
team.

Best regards,
Swapnil M Mane,
ofbiz.apache.org



On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Why is this overview (
> https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers)
> hidden?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > +1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.
> >
> > Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
> > Committers team [1],
> > So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
> > notifications.
> >
> > We can use [hidden email] list for the activities
> related
> > to pull request
> > (again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).
> >
> > "Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
> > Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
> > Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR notification
> > but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
> > [hidden email] should work for us.
> >
> > As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> > The link above is accessible to members only.
> >
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane,
> > ofbiz.apache.org
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> > > committers get those emails.
> > >
> > > IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
> > > contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about
> the
> > > contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
> > > discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
> > >
> > > I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
> > transparency.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael Brohl
> > >
> > > ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github
> (see
> > > also
> > > > other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > > > Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list
> when
> > > > those PullRequests are initiated.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> > > > contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a
> notification
> > to
> > > > the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk
> > of
> > > > losing these contributors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > > > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > > > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > > > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> > > privileges)
> > > > since 2008*
> > > > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

It could be indirectly constrained by the ASF dual host, only PMC members show there. I guess ASF members would also show.

Jacques

Le 03/02/2020 à 13:34, Swapnil M Mane a écrit :

> Hi Pierre,
>
> As mentioned, in my last email,
> https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> The link above is accessible to members only, it is GitHub related thing,
> don't have much idea on it.
> Just for information, currently, it showing there are 9 members in this
> team.
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> ofbiz.apache.org
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Why is this overview (
>> https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers)
>> hidden?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
>> since 2008*
>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.
>>>
>>> Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
>>> Committers team [1],
>>> So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
>>> notifications.
>>>
>>> We can use [hidden email] list for the activities
>> related
>>> to pull request
>>> (again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).
>>>
>>> "Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
>>> Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
>>> Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR notification
>>> but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
>>> [hidden email] should work for us.
>>>
>>> As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
>>> The link above is accessible to members only.
>>>
>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Swapnil M Mane,
>>> ofbiz.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
>>>> committers get those emails.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of the
>>>> contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about
>> the
>>>> contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
>>>> discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
>>>>
>>>> I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
>>> transparency.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Michael Brohl
>>>>
>>>> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github
>> (see
>>>> also
>>>>> other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
>>>>> Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list
>> when
>>>>> those PullRequests are initiated.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
>>>>> contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a
>> notification
>>> to
>>>>> the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk
>>> of
>>>>> losing these contributors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
>>>>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
>>>>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
>>>>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
>>>> privileges)
>>>>> since 2008*
>>>>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>>>>>
>>>>

[Swapnil M Mane]

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 6:10 PM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> It could be indirectly constrained by the ASF dual host, only PMC members
> show there. I guess ASF members would also show.
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 03/02/2020 à 13:34, Swapnil M Mane a écrit :
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > As mentioned, in my last email,
> > https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> > The link above is accessible to members only, it is GitHub related thing,
> > don't have much idea on it.
>

Just for clarification, by members I mean, 'GitHub OFBiz committers team
members'.

> > Just for information, currently, it showing there are 9 members in this
> > team.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane,
> > ofbiz.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Why is this overview (
> >> https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers)
> >> hidden?
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Pierre Smits
> >>
> >> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> >> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> >> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> >> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> >> since 2008*
> >> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.
> >>>
> >>> Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
> >>> Committers team [1],
> >>> So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
> >>> notifications.
> >>>
> >>> We can use [hidden email] list for the activities
> >> related
> >>> to pull request
> >>> (again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).
> >>>
> >>> "Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
> >>> Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
> >>> Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR
> notification
> >>> but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
> >>> [hidden email] should work for us.
> >>>
> >>> As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> >>> The link above is accessible to members only.
> >>>
> >>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Swapnil M Mane,
> >>> ofbiz.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <[hidden email]
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> >>>> committers get those emails.
> >>>>
> >>>> IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of
> the
> >>>> contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about
> >> the
> >>>> contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
> >>>> discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
> >>>>
> >>>> I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
> >>> transparency.
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Brohl
> >>>>
> >>>> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github
> >> (see
> >>>> also
> >>>>> other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> >>>>> Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list
> >> when
> >>>>> those PullRequests are initiated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from github
> >>>>> contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a
> >> notification
> >>> to
> >>>>> the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we risk
> >>> of
> >>>>> losing these contributors.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> >>>>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> >>>>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> >>>>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> >>>> privileges)
> >>>>> since 2008*
> >>>>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >>>>>
> >>>>
>

[Pierre Smits-3]

Anyway, who will take the lead on this?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:49 PM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 6:10 PM Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > It could be indirectly constrained by the ASF dual host, only PMC members
> > show there. I guess ASF members would also show.
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > Le 03/02/2020 à 13:34, Swapnil M Mane a écrit :
> > > Hi Pierre,
> > >
> > > As mentioned, in my last email,
> > > https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> > > The link above is accessible to members only, it is GitHub related
> thing,
> > > don't have much idea on it.
> >
>
> Just for clarification, by members I mean, 'GitHub OFBiz committers team
> members'.
>
>
> > > Just for information, currently, it showing there are 9 members in this
> > > team.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Swapnil M Mane,
> > > ofbiz.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Why is this overview (
> > >> https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers)
> > >> hidden?
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Pierre Smits
> > >>
> > >> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > >> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > >> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > >> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> > privileges)
> > >> since 2008*
> > >> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM Swapnil M Mane <
> [hidden email]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> +1, Jira should be in place independent of the contribution channel.
> > >>>
> > >>> Apart from this, it seems we have limited members in GitHub OFBiz
> > >>> Committers team [1],
> > >>> So I am not sure on all the committers are getting the pull request
> > >>> notifications.
> > >>>
> > >>> We can use [hidden email] list for the activities
> > >> related
> > >>> to pull request
> > >>> (again this doesn't mean we can skip Jira ticket).
> > >>>
> > >>> "Notification on pull request activity" - this is followed by various
> > >>> Apache projects, like Airflow, Roller etc.
> > >>> Some projects like Cassandra even have dedicated list for PR
> > notification
> > >>> but I think, we don't need a dedicated list for PR,
> > >>> [hidden email] should work for us.
> > >>>
> > >>> As Gil mentioned, we can also explore the Jira + GitHub integration.
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] https://github.com/orgs/apache/teams/ofbiz-committers
> > >>> The link above is accessible to members only.
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?pr@...
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Swapnil M Mane,
> > >>> ofbiz.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:46 PM Michael Brohl <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I'm automatically informed about the pull requests, I think that all
> > >>>> committers get those emails.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> IMO, we should make the creation of a Jira mandatory independent of
> > the
> > >>>> contribution channel (patch or PR). That would inform everyone about
> > >> the
> > >>>> contribution and we have a valid starting point for questions,
> > >>>> discussion etc. regarding the contribution.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I feel that solely handling this on Github does not increase
> > >>> transparency.
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Michael Brohl
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Am 03.02.20 um 12:07 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> > >>>>> Hi All,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> With the move to Git, we can expect more pull request from Github
> > >> (see
> > >>>> also
> > >>>>> other threads where postings regarding feature branches appeared).
> > >>>>> Unfortunately, currently no notifications appear in a mailing list
> > >> when
> > >>>>> those PullRequests are initiated.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It seems to me that, if we  want to get more engagements (from
> github
> > >>>>> contributors), aspects such as PullRequests should sent a
> > >> notification
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> the dev ml. Otherwise these PullRequests remain in limbo, and we
> risk
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> losing these contributors.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > >>>>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > >>>>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > >>>>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> > >>>> privileges)
> > >>>>> since 2008*
> > >>>>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> >
>