Groovy future with Java 9

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi,

A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer @Gradle, Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.

We can't ignore that https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
"Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java 9."

What do you think ?

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1

Jacques

[jsmith_dev]

Port to Golang.

😂😂. #notasmalljob.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer @Gradle,
> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>
> We can't ignore that
> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java 9."
>
> What do you think ?
>
> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

No thanks :)

This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_asert/status/913375910723600385

But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in Groovy MLs.

Did I miss it?

Jacques


Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :

> Port to Golang.
>
> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer @Gradle,
>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>
>> We can't ignore that
>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java 9."
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>

[Deepak Dixit-3]

I think they are aware

http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo

Thanks & Regards
--
Deepak Dixit
www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> No thanks :)
>
> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
> t/status/913375910723600385
>
> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in Groovy
> MLs.
>
> Did I miss it?
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
>
>> Port to Golang.
>>
>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer @Gradle,
>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>>
>>> We can't ignore that
>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java
>>> 9."
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

[Deepak Dixit-3]

http://markmail.org/message/kh7hcqpcflqjs534

Thanks & Regards
--
Deepak Dixit
www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Deepak Dixit <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I think they are aware
>
> http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
> http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Dixit
> www.hotwaxsystems.com
> www.hotwax.co
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> No thanks :)
>>
>> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
>> t/status/913375910723600385
>>
>> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in
>> Groovy MLs.
>>
>> Did I miss it?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
>>
>>> Port to Golang.
>>>
>>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer
>>>> @Gradle,
>>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>>>
>>>> We can't ignore that
>>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java
>>>> 9."
>>>>
>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

[taher]

I think we'll be just fine. Plenty of support time for Java 8 which gives
the Groovy project time to iron out all kinks in deploying on Java 9. Worst
case scenario might be some binary incompatibility which means the need to
recompile. So what!

On Sep 28, 2017 8:34 PM, "Deepak Dixit" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> http://markmail.org/message/kh7hcqpcflqjs534
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Dixit
> www.hotwaxsystems.com
> www.hotwax.co
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Deepak Dixit <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I think they are aware
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
> > http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > --
> > Deepak Dixit
> > www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > www.hotwax.co
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> No thanks :)
> >>
> >> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
> >> t/status/913375910723600385
> >>
> >> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in
> >> Groovy MLs.
> >>
> >> Did I miss it?
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Port to Golang.
> >>>
> >>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer
> >>>> @Gradle,
> >>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
> >>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't ignore that
> >>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
> >>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
> >>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in
> Java
> >>>> 9."
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think ?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
> >>>>
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Deepak,

I missed this one and will read it carefully

Jacques


Le 28/09/2017 à 19:34, Deepak Dixit a écrit :

> http://markmail.org/message/kh7hcqpcflqjs534
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Dixit
> www.hotwaxsystems.com
> www.hotwax.co
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Deepak Dixit <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I think they are aware
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
>> http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> --
>> Deepak Dixit
>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>> www.hotwax.co
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> No thanks :)
>>>
>>> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
>>> t/status/913375910723600385
>>>
>>> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in
>>> Groovy MLs.
>>>
>>> Did I miss it?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Port to Golang.
>>>>
>>>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer
>>>>> @Gradle,
>>>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>>>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can't ignore that
>>>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>>>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>>>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in Java
>>>>> 9."
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Taher,

Yes I feel reassured. When I saw this tweet from Cedric, I wondered if something important was not missing.

But now I think there is nothing really blocking :)

Let's see

Jacques


Le 28/09/2017 à 20:34, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> I think we'll be just fine. Plenty of support time for Java 8 which gives
> the Groovy project time to iron out all kinks in deploying on Java 9. Worst
> case scenario might be some binary incompatibility which means the need to
> recompile. So what!
>
> On Sep 28, 2017 8:34 PM, "Deepak Dixit" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> http://markmail.org/message/kh7hcqpcflqjs534
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> --
>> Deepak Dixit
>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>> www.hotwax.co
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Deepak Dixit <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think they are aware
>>>
>>> http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
>>> http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> --
>>> Deepak Dixit
>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No thanks :)
>>>>
>>>> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
>>>> t/status/913375910723600385
>>>>
>>>> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in
>>>> Groovy MLs.
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss it?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Port to Golang.
>>>>>
>>>>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer
>>>>>> @Gradle,
>>>>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>>>>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can't ignore that
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>>>>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>>>>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in
>> Java
>>>>>> 9."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Mmm, I have to re-read that, but finally the concern seems serious and seems to come from here

http://markmail.org/message/zzhlqsr6tvkjbpyz

Jacques


Le 28/09/2017 à 21:30, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Thanks Taher,
>
> Yes I feel reassured. When I saw this tweet from Cedric, I wondered if something important was not missing.
>
> But now I think there is nothing really blocking :)
>
> Let's see
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 28/09/2017 à 20:34, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> I think we'll be just fine. Plenty of support time for Java 8 which gives
>> the Groovy project time to iron out all kinks in deploying on Java 9. Worst
>> case scenario might be some binary incompatibility which means the need to
>> recompile. So what!
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2017 8:34 PM, "Deepak Dixit" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://markmail.org/message/kh7hcqpcflqjs534
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> --
>>> Deepak Dixit
>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Deepak Dixit <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think they are aware
>>>>
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/du6kraodfsjxcots
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/d4t2hkykuhydt2vo
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>> --
>>>> Deepak Dixit
>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No thanks :)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a bit reassuring https://twitter.com/paulk_aser
>>>>> t/status/913375910723600385
>>>>>
>>>>> But I wonder why nobody speaks about "Groovy future with Java 9" in
>>>>> Groovy MLs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I miss it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 28/09/2017 à 16:03, Blockfreight™ | Julian Smith a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Port to Golang.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 😂😂. #notasmalljob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 at 11:54 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> A bad news, knowing who is Cedric Champeau[1]: Software Engineer
>>>>>>> @Gradle,
>>>>>>> Inc. Conference speaker. Wrote the static compiler for @ApacheGroovy.
>>>>>>> Co-author of #GroovyInAction Opinions are my own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can't ignore that
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/CedricChampeau/status/913334345322156032:
>>>>>>> "Let me tell you smtg: I'm not super confident about the future of
>>>>>>> #groovylang. Not bc of #kotlin, but because of breaking changes in
>>> Java
>>>>>>> 9."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedricchampeau/?ppe=1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
>