Help OFBiz Help - day

[Pierre Smits]

Dear All,

Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
screen accessed? And do you use it?

Currently for following applications/components help is available:

   - Accounting
   - Commonext
   - Content
   - Humanres
   - Marketing
   - Order
   - Party
   - Product
   - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
   - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
   - SpecialPurpose/Example
   - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
   - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
   - SpecialPurpose/Scrum

But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).

As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
first place to look when an end-user looks for help.

What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
extend the help documents?
Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently, create
the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
help structure and extend the localized versions?

How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.

Regards,

Pierre

[Scott Gray-2]

Please stop posting to both lists.

Thanks
Scott

On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
> screen accessed? And do you use it?
>
> Currently for following applications/components help is available:
>
>   - Accounting
>   - Commonext
>   - Content
>   - Humanres
>   - Marketing
>   - Order
>   - Party
>   - Product
>   - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
>   - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
>   - SpecialPurpose/Example
>   - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
>   - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
>   - SpecialPurpose/Scrum
>
> But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
> up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
> manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
> documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
>
> As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
> first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
>
> What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
> extend the help documents?
> Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently, create
> the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
> help structure and extend the localized versions?
>
> How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
> this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre

[Pierre Smits]

Scott,

Contrary to what you and Jacopo (see
this<http://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/?q=%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22#query:%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22%20from%3A%22Jacopo%20Cappellato%22+page:1+mid:2lceqdtlm5chbpm5+state:results>)
believe, the developer mailing is for the developers of the project. That
means intended for anyone participating in developing code ánd the
community. It is not the
Only-for-committers-who-do-code-only-and-where-other-communitiy-members-may-only-ask-limited-questions-per-issue"
mailing list.

Some community members may have chosen to only read the dev mail. I want to
invite them as well to pariticpate in the "Help OFBiz Help"-day.

Pierre


2012/5/7 Scott Gray <[hidden email]>

> Please stop posting to both lists.
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
> On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
> > screen accessed? And do you use it?
> >
> > Currently for following applications/components help is available:
> >
> >   - Accounting
> >   - Commonext
> >   - Content
> >   - Humanres
> >   - Marketing
> >   - Order
> >   - Party
> >   - Product
> >   - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
> >   - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
> >   - SpecialPurpose/Example
> >   - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
> >   - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
> >   - SpecialPurpose/Scrum
> >
> > But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
> > up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
> > manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
> > documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
> >
> > As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
> > first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
> >
> > What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
> > extend the help documents?
> > Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently,
> create
> > the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
> > help structure and extend the localized versions?
> >
> > How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
> > this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pierre
>
>

[Scott Gray-2]

Please don't try and tell me what I believe, I have no problem with you posting to the dev list so long as you're contributing and not asking basic questions.

But nobody else cross posts and most of us subscribe to both lists.  You've done this repeatedly over the last few weeks, I understand that you think your messages are very important but I can assure you they are no more important that anyone else's and we all seem to get by just fine by choosing one list to post our messages to.  It's just basic netiquette.

Regards
Scott

On 8/05/2012, at 8:46 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Contrary to what you and Jacopo (see
> this<http://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/?q=%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22#query:%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22%20from%3A%22Jacopo%20Cappellato%22+page:1+mid:2lceqdtlm5chbpm5+state:results>)
> believe, the developer mailing is for the developers of the project. That
> means intended for anyone participating in developing code ánd the
> community. It is not the
> Only-for-committers-who-do-code-only-and-where-other-communitiy-members-may-only-ask-limited-questions-per-issue"
> mailing list.
>
> Some community members may have chosen to only read the dev mail. I want to
> invite them as well to pariticpate in the "Help OFBiz Help"-day.
>
> Pierre
>
>
> 2012/5/7 Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>
>> Please stop posting to both lists.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
>>> screen accessed? And do you use it?
>>>
>>> Currently for following applications/components help is available:
>>>
>>>  - Accounting
>>>  - Commonext
>>>  - Content
>>>  - Humanres
>>>  - Marketing
>>>  - Order
>>>  - Party
>>>  - Product
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/Example
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
>>>  - SpecialPurpose/Scrum
>>>
>>> But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
>>> up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
>>> manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
>>> documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
>>>
>>> As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
>>> first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
>>>
>>> What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
>>> extend the help documents?
>>> Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently,
>> create
>>> the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
>>> help structure and extend the localized versions?
>>>
>>> How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
>>> this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>
>>