Help clarifying proper use of production run quantity produced and rejected.

[Christian Carlow-OFBizzer]

Production run declarations allow produced and rejected quantities to be
declared but because of the various by-product scenarios that may exist,
ambiguity is preventing me from determining how to properly use the
fields.  For example, for Pierre's yeast-residue brewery example, the
product is being produced but it isn't the product the production run
was created to produce.  Therefore I'm not sure if the resulting
yeast-residue should constitute quantity produced.  The same ambiguity
applies to Jacopo's defective tortilla scenario.  Technically the
tortilla isn't the same as the pizza the production run is meant to
produce so declaring it as quantity rejected seems possibly correct.  
Are these fields supposed to be used only for tracking the goods
quantities or are they meant to indicate quantities for non-production
run goods as well?  This ambiguity is preventing me from implementing
additional functionality required by the customer.

[Pierre Smits]

Christian,

It seems to me that you are confusing yourself with your own reasoning....

Look at it from this simple and absolute perspective: when executing a
production run that results in the end product beer the outcome of that
intention is either beer (success) or no beer (failure). The rest is a
by-product. Defective end products don't exist. Just end products
(success), wanted by-products (e.g. waste - as in the bags the barley came
in -  or in the beer scenario yeast-residue) and unwanted by-products (the
stuff that you get when failed)

It also seem to me that you are the only one in your organisation carrying
the burden of implementing business case/solution/process and technical
adjustments. Beware of falling on the knife of your own promises.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

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[Christian Carlow-OFBizzer]

Thanks Pierre,

You are correct, I'm the only one carrying the burden.

So what you are saying is for a production run to create 10 of some
amount of brews, the yeast would not constitute quantity produced
specified in the left hand form?  So there is yeast-residue left over
after each of the 10 brews, you wouldn't declare a quantity produced of
2 (1 for beer 1 for yeast residue) but 1 for just the beer meant to be
produced correct?

On 03/10/2014 12:19 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:

> Christian,
>
> It seems to me that you are confusing yourself with your own reasoning....
>
> Look at it from this simple and absolute perspective: when executing a
> production run that results in the end product beer the outcome of that
> intention is either beer (success) or no beer (failure). The rest is a
> by-product. Defective end products don't exist. Just end products
> (success), wanted by-products (e.g. waste - as in the bags the barley came
> in -  or in the beer scenario yeast-residue) and unwanted by-products (the
> stuff that you get when failed)
>
> It also seem to me that you are the only one in your organisation carrying
> the burden of implementing business case/solution/process and technical
> adjustments. Beware of falling on the knife of your own promises.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>