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Branch is created and can be checked out from here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/jackrabbit20100709 I've committed a quick and dirty container for an embedded jackrabbit repo so that we can go about accessing it straight away but much still needs to be done at a low level. Regards Scott On 9/07/2010, at 7:06 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: > Jep Scott after you created the branch we maybe can split the tasks and plan > the next steps. > > 2010/7/8 Scott Gray <[hidden email]> > >> Okay well cool, I'll go ahead and create a branch at some point, I know >> Sascha has expressed interest as well so we may as well get the ball >> rolling. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 8/07/2010, at 11:54 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: >> >>> My spare time is very limited too, but I would be willing to help. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Scott Gray <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >>>> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:04 AM >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> Personally, I wouldn't do anymore than the most basic CMS >>>> work with the existing OFBiz component, but maybe I'm biased >>>> because I want to see it replaced :-) >>>> >>>> In regards to working together, my spare time is pretty >>>> limited so I doubt that I'll be working very fast and >>>> probably nowhere near fast enough for your needs. >>>> >>>> If people are interested in helping out with my POC then we >>>> can always consider creating a jackrabbit branch in the >>>> OFBiz repo that people can use to collaborate. The >>>> main reason I'm looking at a direct Jackrabbit integration >>>> is simply for learning purposes and to get a better >>>> understanding of what the best long term approach will be, >>>> there is every chance that it would never get merged back >>>> into the trunk if we later decide to take a different >>>> route. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/07/2010, at 6:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi Scott, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> We are customizing ofbiz for a customer here in China. >>>> Party, Order, >>>>> Agreement, AP/AR, Birt, Catalog are in the current >>>> scope and we feel very >>>>> comfortable with the flexibility offered by ofbiz. Now >>>> customer needs CMS. >>>>> However, current CMS component is not that ready in >>>> ofbiz. We are evaluating >>>>> which way to go: >>>>> >>>>> 1) enhance current ofbiz CMS component >>>>> 2) embed a 3-party CMS as a component >>>>> 3) integrate with a standalone 3-party CMS >>>>> >>>>> Option 1 seems very risky, as we have to re-invent the >>>> CMS wheel; Option 3 >>>>> seems also very risky, as there are many integration >>>> points, like >>>>> user/permission, etc. Now I tend to using option 2 >>>> just like what you are >>>>> doing. Maybe we can work together on this. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email] >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea was to add hippo as a component and use >>>> their webapp as an interim >>>>>> CMS while we build out similar functionality in >>>> OFBiz. OFBiz would use the >>>>>> JCR API to interact with the underlying >>>> repository. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of progress... none. In my spare >>>> time I'll be playing around with >>>>>> a jackrabbit integration for OFBiz and reading all >>>> the articles I can find. >>>>>> I feel like I need to better understand the JCR >>>> and content models in >>>>>> general before doing anything concrete. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 5:27 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Integrating" here means to put Hippo as a >>>> ofbiz component or let it as a >>>>>>> standalone application but integrating over >>>> data/service layer? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 >>>> ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 >>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brett Palmer >>>> <[hidden email] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like the idea of integrating with >>>> existing CMS applications. When we >>>>>> are >>>>>>>> talking about hippo what of their various >>>> products are we considering >>>>>> here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hippo CMS7 >>>>>>>> Hippo Repository 2 >>>>>>>> Hippo Site Toolkit 2 >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> Hippo Portal 2.0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> from www.onehippo.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brett >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Scott >>>> Gray <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anybody using or considered using >>>> Hippo CMS (onehippo.org) in >>>>>>>> conjunction >>>>>>>>> with OFBiz? >>>>>>>>> - Apache Licensed >>>>>>>>> - Uses Jackrabbit as its repository >>>>>>>>> - Supports Versioning, >>>> Internationalization, Publishing Workflows and >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We could start out by using Hippo's UI >>>> to manage content and retrieve >>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> for display within OFBiz using the JCR >>>> API. As the various document >>>>>>>> types >>>>>>>>> needed by the OFBiz base applications >>>> begin to take shape we could look >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> ways to allow the content to be >>>> modified directly from within OFBiz >>>>>> (once >>>>>>>>> again using the JCR API). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, alternatives, ideas or >>>> whatever would be appreciated. >>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> considering working on a POC in my >>>> spare time, not sure how long that >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>> take at this stage. I already >>>> have a copy of Hippo running inside >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> that was just a matter of expanding >>>> their WAR distribution and wrapping >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> in a component, next step would be >>>> gaining access to the repo from >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Sascha Rodekamp > Lynx-Consulting GmbH > Johanniskirchplatz 6 > D-33615 Bielefeld > http://www.lynx.de |
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The plan here is to get to know jackrabbit and content repositories in general, well at least that is my goal.
I'm not entirely convinced that a third party CMS will meet the full needs of an ERP system without extensive customization. I want to better understand the underlying repository so that I can better understand what a third party CMS is actually bringing to the table. For example Hippo's UI uses wicket, do I really want to have to deal with learning how to use that? How big will that hurdle be compared to just duplicating the functionality using our own tools? What happens when I don't want my users to have to go to a different web app just to manage some content? But regardless, any higher level tools we create in OFBiz for accessing a JCR repo should be reusable irrespective of the CMS approach that we take. Regards Scott On 10/07/2010, at 8:47 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: > Cool. > > One quick question: if we wanna adopt a CMS on top of jackrabbit, which one > you think is the best for this branch? I think we have select one, then > people can focus on that to verify the whole idea. But of course, we can > make it flexible enough to adopt other CMS in the future. > > -- > Regards, > Michael Xu (xudong) > > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> Branch is created and can be checked out from here: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/jackrabbit20100709 >> >> I've committed a quick and dirty container for an embedded jackrabbit repo >> so that we can go about accessing it straight away but much still needs to >> be done at a low level. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 9/07/2010, at 7:06 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: >> >>> Jep Scott after you created the branch we maybe can split the tasks and >> plan >>> the next steps. >>> >>> 2010/7/8 Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> Okay well cool, I'll go ahead and create a branch at some point, I know >>>> Sascha has expressed interest as well so we may as well get the ball >>>> rolling. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/07/2010, at 11:54 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>> >>>>> My spare time is very limited too, but I would be willing to help. >>>>> >>>>> -Adrian >>>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Scott Gray <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS >>>>>> To: [hidden email] >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:04 AM >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't do anymore than the most basic CMS >>>>>> work with the existing OFBiz component, but maybe I'm biased >>>>>> because I want to see it replaced :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> In regards to working together, my spare time is pretty >>>>>> limited so I doubt that I'll be working very fast and >>>>>> probably nowhere near fast enough for your needs. >>>>>> >>>>>> If people are interested in helping out with my POC then we >>>>>> can always consider creating a jackrabbit branch in the >>>>>> OFBiz repo that people can use to collaborate. The >>>>>> main reason I'm looking at a direct Jackrabbit integration >>>>>> is simply for learning purposes and to get a better >>>>>> understanding of what the best long term approach will be, >>>>>> there is every chance that it would never get merged back >>>>>> into the trunk if we later decide to take a different >>>>>> route. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 6:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi Scott, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are customizing ofbiz for a customer here in China. >>>>>> Party, Order, >>>>>>> Agreement, AP/AR, Birt, Catalog are in the current >>>>>> scope and we feel very >>>>>>> comfortable with the flexibility offered by ofbiz. Now >>>>>> customer needs CMS. >>>>>>> However, current CMS component is not that ready in >>>>>> ofbiz. We are evaluating >>>>>>> which way to go: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) enhance current ofbiz CMS component >>>>>>> 2) embed a 3-party CMS as a component >>>>>>> 3) integrate with a standalone 3-party CMS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 1 seems very risky, as we have to re-invent the >>>>>> CMS wheel; Option 3 >>>>>>> seems also very risky, as there are many integration >>>>>> points, like >>>>>>> user/permission, etc. Now I tend to using option 2 >>>>>> just like what you are >>>>>>> doing. Maybe we can work together on this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Scott Gray < >> [hidden email] >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea was to add hippo as a component and use >>>>>> their webapp as an interim >>>>>>>> CMS while we build out similar functionality in >>>>>> OFBiz. OFBiz would use the >>>>>>>> JCR API to interact with the underlying >>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In terms of progress... none. In my spare >>>>>> time I'll be playing around with >>>>>>>> a jackrabbit integration for OFBiz and reading all >>>>>> the articles I can find. >>>>>>>> I feel like I need to better understand the JCR >>>>>> and content models in >>>>>>>> general before doing anything concrete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 5:27 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Integrating" here means to put Hippo as a >>>>>> ofbiz component or let it as a >>>>>>>>> standalone application but integrating over >>>>>> data/service layer? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 >>>>>> ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 >>>>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brett Palmer >>>>>> <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of integrating with >>>>>> existing CMS applications. When we >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> talking about hippo what of their various >>>>>> products are we considering >>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hippo CMS7 >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Repository 2 >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Site Toolkit 2 >>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Portal 2.0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from www.onehippo.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Brett >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Scott >>>>>> Gray <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody using or considered using >>>>>> Hippo CMS (onehippo.org) in >>>>>>>>>> conjunction >>>>>>>>>>> with OFBiz? >>>>>>>>>>> - Apache Licensed >>>>>>>>>>> - Uses Jackrabbit as its repository >>>>>>>>>>> - Supports Versioning, >>>>>> Internationalization, Publishing Workflows and >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We could start out by using Hippo's UI >>>>>> to manage content and retrieve >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> for display within OFBiz using the JCR >>>>>> API. As the various document >>>>>>>>>> types >>>>>>>>>>> needed by the OFBiz base applications >>>>>> begin to take shape we could look >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> ways to allow the content to be >>>>>> modified directly from within OFBiz >>>>>>>> (once >>>>>>>>>>> again using the JCR API). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, alternatives, ideas or >>>>>> whatever would be appreciated. >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> considering working on a POC in my >>>>>> spare time, not sure how long that >>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>> take at this stage. I already >>>>>> have a copy of Hippo running inside >>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> that was just a matter of expanding >>>>>> their WAR distribution and wrapping >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> in a component, next step would be >>>>>> gaining access to the repo from >>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sascha Rodekamp >>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>> http://www.lynx.de >> >> |
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Nothing concrete, but here's a few ideas:
- Import/Export via component resources - Authorization - See about getting Jackrabbit's repository browser up and running - Content model definition - POC some common OFBiz content usage, e.g. Product Content, Static Site Content, Help Content, others? - Better deployment model support - Session management - Transaction Management I'm sure there are a million other things that I can't think of right now. Regards Scott On 11/07/2010, at 3:01 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: > Thanks for doing that Scott! If it's not too much trouble, could you provide a list of things that need to be done? I noticed in the commit log that licenses need to be worked on. What other tasks are there? > > -Adrian > > --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Scott Gray <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From: Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS >> To: [hidden email] >> Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 1:23 AM >> Branch is created and can be checked >> out from here: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/jackrabbit20100709 >> >> I've committed a quick and dirty container for an embedded >> jackrabbit repo so that we can go about accessing it >> straight away but much still needs to be done at a low >> level. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 9/07/2010, at 7:06 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: >> >>> Jep Scott after you created the branch we maybe can >> split the tasks and plan >>> the next steps. >>> >>> 2010/7/8 Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> Okay well cool, I'll go ahead and create a branch >> at some point, I know >>>> Sascha has expressed interest as well so we may as >> well get the ball >>>> rolling. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/07/2010, at 11:54 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>> >>>>> My spare time is very limited too, but I would >> be willing to help. >>>>> >>>>> -Adrian >>>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Scott Gray <[hidden email]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS >>>>>> To: [hidden email] >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:04 AM >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't do anymore than the >> most basic CMS >>>>>> work with the existing OFBiz component, >> but maybe I'm biased >>>>>> because I want to see it replaced :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> In regards to working together, my spare >> time is pretty >>>>>> limited so I doubt that I'll be working >> very fast and >>>>>> probably nowhere near fast enough for your >> needs. >>>>>> >>>>>> If people are interested in helping out >> with my POC then we >>>>>> can always consider creating a jackrabbit >> branch in the >>>>>> OFBiz repo that people can use to >> collaborate. The >>>>>> main reason I'm looking at a direct >> Jackrabbit integration >>>>>> is simply for learning purposes and to get >> a better >>>>>> understanding of what the best long term >> approach will be, >>>>>> there is every chance that it would never >> get merged back >>>>>> into the trunk if we later decide to take >> a different >>>>>> route. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 6:07 PM, Michael Xu >> (xudong) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi Scott, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are customizing ofbiz for a >> customer here in China. >>>>>> Party, Order, >>>>>>> Agreement, AP/AR, Birt, Catalog are in >> the current >>>>>> scope and we feel very >>>>>>> comfortable with the flexibility >> offered by ofbiz. Now >>>>>> customer needs CMS. >>>>>>> However, current CMS component is not >> that ready in >>>>>> ofbiz. We are evaluating >>>>>>> which way to go: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) enhance current ofbiz CMS >> component >>>>>>> 2) embed a 3-party CMS as a component >>>>>>> 3) integrate with a standalone 3-party >> CMS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 1 seems very risky, as we have >> to re-invent the >>>>>> CMS wheel; Option 3 >>>>>>> seems also very risky, as there are >> many integration >>>>>> points, like >>>>>>> user/permission, etc. Now I tend to >> using option 2 >>>>>> just like what you are >>>>>>> doing. Maybe we can work together on >> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Scott >> Gray <[hidden email] >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea was to add hippo as a >> component and use >>>>>> their webapp as an interim >>>>>>>> CMS while we build out similar >> functionality in >>>>>> OFBiz. OFBiz would use the >>>>>>>> JCR API to interact with the >> underlying >>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In terms of progress... >> none. In my spare >>>>>> time I'll be playing around with >>>>>>>> a jackrabbit integration for OFBiz >> and reading all >>>>>> the articles I can find. >>>>>>>> I feel like I need to better >> understand the JCR >>>>>> and content models in >>>>>>>> general before doing anything >> concrete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 5:27 PM, Michael >> Xu (xudong) >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Integrating" here means to >> put Hippo as a >>>>>> ofbiz component or let it as a >>>>>>>>> standalone application but >> integrating over >>>>>> data/service layer? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: >> (8610) 6267 0615 >>>>>> ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 >>>>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:27 >> PM, Brett Palmer >>>>>> <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of >> integrating with >>>>>> existing CMS applications. When we >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> talking about hippo what >> of their various >>>>>> products are we considering >>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hippo CMS7 >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Repository 2 >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Site Toolkit 2 >>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> Hippo Portal 2.0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from www.onehippo.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Brett >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at >> 7:57 PM, Scott >>>>>> Gray <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody using or >> considered using >>>>>> Hippo CMS (onehippo.org) in >>>>>>>>>> conjunction >>>>>>>>>>> with OFBiz? >>>>>>>>>>> - Apache Licensed >>>>>>>>>>> - Uses Jackrabbit as >> its repository >>>>>>>>>>> - Supports >> Versioning, >>>>>> Internationalization, Publishing Workflows >> and >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We could start out by >> using Hippo's UI >>>>>> to manage content and retrieve >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> for display within >> OFBiz using the JCR >>>>>> API. As the various document >>>>>>>>>> types >>>>>>>>>>> needed by the OFBiz >> base applications >>>>>> begin to take shape we could look >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> ways to allow the >> content to be >>>>>> modified directly from within OFBiz >>>>>>>> (once >>>>>>>>>>> again using the JCR >> API). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, >> alternatives, ideas or >>>>>> whatever would be appreciated. >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> considering working on >> a POC in my >>>>>> spare time, not sure how long that >>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>> take at this >> stage. I already >>>>>> have a copy of Hippo running inside >>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> that was just a matter >> of expanding >>>>>> their WAR distribution and wrapping >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> in a component, next >> step would be >>>>>> gaining access to the repo from >>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sascha Rodekamp >>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>> http://www.lynx.de >> >> > > > |
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Raj, the more input the better.
Being better able to define flexible website/ecommerce content would be a big win for sure. Are you saying you would prefer to see the current Content/CMS model improved rather than replacing it with the likes of a JCR repository? Regards Scott On 10/07/2010, at 11:23 PM, Raj Saini wrote: > I have been experimenting with few of the CMS and as you said, they really do not fit into the OFBiz. > > I am not sure what are the thoughts of others. What I have in mind is a web CMS system for OFBiz which is used to create site structure and then fill the contents either with static pages and the dynamic fragments such as product-summary, side-deep categories, product details etc. This kind of system will allow building of web site dynamically from predefined web fragments. I think best thing for this type of system will be to extend/modify or redo the current CMS. > > Regards, > > Raj > > On 10/07/10 14:28, Scott Gray wrote: >> The plan here is to get to know jackrabbit and content repositories in general, well at least that is my goal. >> >> I'm not entirely convinced that a third party CMS will meet the full needs of an ERP system without extensive customization. I want to better understand the underlying repository so that I can better understand what a third party CMS is actually bringing to the table. >> >> For example Hippo's UI uses wicket, do I really want to have to deal with learning how to use that? How big will that hurdle be compared to just duplicating the functionality using our own tools? What happens when I don't want my users to have to go to a different web app just to manage some content? >> >> But regardless, any higher level tools we create in OFBiz for accessing a JCR repo should be reusable irrespective of the CMS approach that we take. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 10/07/2010, at 8:47 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >> >> >>> Cool. >>> >>> One quick question: if we wanna adopt a CMS on top of jackrabbit, which one >>> you think is the best for this branch? I think we have select one, then >>> people can focus on that to verify the whole idea. But of course, we can >>> make it flexible enough to adopt other CMS in the future. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Scott Gray<[hidden email]>wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Branch is created and can be checked out from here: >>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/jackrabbit20100709 >>>> >>>> I've committed a quick and dirty container for an embedded jackrabbit repo >>>> so that we can go about accessing it straight away but much still needs to >>>> be done at a low level. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 9/07/2010, at 7:06 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jep Scott after you created the branch we maybe can split the tasks and >>>>> >>>> plan >>>> >>>>> the next steps. >>>>> >>>>> 2010/7/8 Scott Gray<[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Okay well cool, I'll go ahead and create a branch at some point, I know >>>>>> Sascha has expressed interest as well so we may as well get the ball >>>>>> rolling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 11:54 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> My spare time is very limited too, but I would be willing to help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Scott Gray<[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Scott Gray<[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS >>>>>>>> To: [hidden email] >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:04 AM >>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't do anymore than the most basic CMS >>>>>>>> work with the existing OFBiz component, but maybe I'm biased >>>>>>>> because I want to see it replaced :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In regards to working together, my spare time is pretty >>>>>>>> limited so I doubt that I'll be working very fast and >>>>>>>> probably nowhere near fast enough for your needs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If people are interested in helping out with my POC then we >>>>>>>> can always consider creating a jackrabbit branch in the >>>>>>>> OFBiz repo that people can use to collaborate. The >>>>>>>> main reason I'm looking at a direct Jackrabbit integration >>>>>>>> is simply for learning purposes and to get a better >>>>>>>> understanding of what the best long term approach will be, >>>>>>>> there is every chance that it would never get merged back >>>>>>>> into the trunk if we later decide to take a different >>>>>>>> route. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 6:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi Scott, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We are customizing ofbiz for a customer here in China. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Party, Order, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Agreement, AP/AR, Birt, Catalog are in the current >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> scope and we feel very >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> comfortable with the flexibility offered by ofbiz. Now >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> customer needs CMS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, current CMS component is not that ready in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ofbiz. We are evaluating >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> which way to go: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) enhance current ofbiz CMS component >>>>>>>>> 2) embed a 3-party CMS as a component >>>>>>>>> 3) integrate with a standalone 3-party CMS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Option 1 seems very risky, as we have to re-invent the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CMS wheel; Option 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> seems also very risky, as there are many integration >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> points, like >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> user/permission, etc. Now I tend to using option 2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> just like what you are >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> doing. Maybe we can work together on this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Scott Gray< >>>>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email] >>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The idea was to add hippo as a component and use >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> their webapp as an interim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CMS while we build out similar functionality in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz. OFBiz would use the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JCR API to interact with the underlying >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In terms of progress... none. In my spare >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> time I'll be playing around with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a jackrabbit integration for OFBiz and reading all >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the articles I can find. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I feel like I need to better understand the JCR >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and content models in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> general before doing anything concrete. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2010, at 5:27 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Integrating" here means to put Hippo as a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ofbiz component or let it as a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> standalone application but integrating over >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> data/service layer? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brett Palmer >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[hidden email] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Scott, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of integrating with >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> existing CMS applications. When we >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> talking about hippo what of their various >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> products are we considering >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hippo CMS7 >>>>>>>>>>>> Hippo Repository 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> Hippo Site Toolkit 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>> Hippo Portal 2.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from www.onehippo.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brett >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Scott >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gray<[hidden email] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody using or considered using >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hippo CMS (onehippo.org) in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with OFBiz? >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Apache Licensed >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Uses Jackrabbit as its repository >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Supports Versioning, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Internationalization, Publishing Workflows and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We could start out by using Hippo's UI >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to manage content and retrieve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for display within OFBiz using the JCR >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> API. As the various document >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> types >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> needed by the OFBiz base applications >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> begin to take shape we could look >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ways to allow the content to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> modified directly from within OFBiz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (once >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> again using the JCR API). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, alternatives, ideas or >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> whatever would be appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> considering working on a POC in my >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> spare time, not sure how long that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> take at this stage. I already >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have a copy of Hippo running inside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that was just a matter of expanding >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> their WAR distribution and wrapping >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a component, next step would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> gaining access to the repo from >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>> http://www.lynx.de >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> > |
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