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Invoices are generated when an item is shipped. Services products are not shipped, so an invoice is not generated. An invoice need to be generated for the item to be reflected in the Sales ledger - according to the default ledger setup. This does not seem right. Can someone please spot my error. Kind reagrds Rees __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html |
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Hi,
I think it is a matter of configuring ofbiz it is certainly not a standard behavior e.g. something you would find in the demo data, I had a long discussion in the forums previously, you might like to check this thread http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Approve-Orders-with-service-products-tt16242722.html#a16659894 -Enrique Ruibal
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Thanks for you responce. If I change my product to a digital good then an invoice is generated and all accounts are fine. I do not understand why service product type does not generate an invoice. Service is not inherited from good - most product types including digital good are. Do you have any ideas on why an invoice is not generated. I am rather lost. Thanks Rees ----- Original Message ---- From: Enrique Ruibal <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, 19 June, 2008 5:17:50 AM Subject: Re: Invoice for service Hi, I think it is a matter of configuring ofbiz it is certainly not a standard behavior e.g. something you would find in the demo data, I had a long discussion in the forums previously, you might like to check this thread http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Approve-Orders-with-service-products-tt16242722.html#a16659894 -Enrique Ruibal Rees Watkins wrote: > > Hi > Invoices are generated when an item is shipped. > Services products are not shipped, so an invoice is not generated. > An invoice need to be generated for the item to be reflected in the Sales > ledger - according to the default ledger setup. > This does not seem right. Can someone please spot my error. > Kind reagrds > Rees > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! Mail. > A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Invoice-for-service-tp17992677p17996588.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html |
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Yeah, it makes me wonder too..you are supposed to be able to configure ofbiz so that it behaves in such a way that it triggers the invoice generation process as soon as the order is approved in the case of services, although I'm not that familiar with the framework yet, so that I could provide further useful advice.
Perhaps some one more experienced with this part could give us a hint, as to how to acomplish this. -Enrique Ruibal
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Enrique, You mentioned: "you are supposed to be able to configure ofbiz so that it behaves in such a way that it triggers the invoice generation process as soon as the order is approved in the case of services". If that's the case it is functionality I've never heard of, but it could exist! I think one of the reasons is that services aren't often done through products. For now you could mark those products as digital goods, but that's assuming you can and should bill for services immediately, ie before they are performed. Typically services are billed by agreement, and against hour entries, and that is what OFBiz supports right now OOTB. If you have a timesheet or a WorkEffort with time entries associated with it you can add invoice items to a new or existing invoice for those. -David On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Enrique Ruibal wrote: > > Yeah, it makes me wonder too..you are supposed to be able to > configure ofbiz > so that it behaves in such a way that it triggers the invoice > generation > process as soon as the order is approved in the case of services, > although > I'm not that familiar with the framework yet, so that I could provide > further useful advice. > > Perhaps some one more experienced with this part could give us a > hint, as to > how to acomplish this. > > -Enrique Ruibal > > > Rees Watkins wrote: >> >> Hi >> Thanks for you responce. >> If I change my product to a digital good then an invoice is >> generated and >> all accounts are fine. >> I do not understand why service product type does not generate an >> invoice. >> Service is not inherited from good - most product types including >> digital >> good are. >> Do you have any ideas on why an invoice is not generated. I am rather >> lost. >> Thanks >> Rees >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Enrique Ruibal <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Thursday, 19 June, 2008 5:17:50 AM >> Subject: Re: Invoice for service >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I think it is a matter of configuring ofbiz it is certainly not a >> standard >> behavior e.g. something you would find in the demo data, I had a long >> discussion in the forums previously, you might like to check this >> thread >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Approve-Orders-with-service-products-tt16242722.html#a16659894 >> >> -Enrique Ruibal >> >> >> >> Rees Watkins wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> Invoices are generated when an item is shipped. >>> Services products are not shipped, so an invoice is not generated. >>> An invoice need to be generated for the item to be reflected in >>> the Sales >>> ledger - according to the default ledger setup. >>> This does not seem right. Can someone please spot my error. >>> Kind reagrds >>> Rees >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail. >>> A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Invoice-for-service-tp17992677p17996588.html >> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail. >> A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Invoice-for-service-tp17992677p18011318.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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David,
That is a rather interesting approach what you have mentioned, I definitely need to study more about work effort and time management in ofbiz, as per my previous experience I had been working with services 'as products' e.g. like the digital product thing, but now I think it certainly makes a more sense the way it is handled by ofbiz. Thanks for the feedback -Enrique Ruibal
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In reply to this post by David E Jones
Hi David
We act as 3rd party booking agents for our hotel suppliers, so in terms of product modelling a product type of "SERVICE" seemed the best fit. Payment for the service in our case is taken up front by means of a credit card. I did consider "ASSET_USAGE" as a product type but given our business model we dont really have any assets to speak of, apart from our software that is. We have in the mean time marked the products as DIGITAL_GOOD and the accounting seems to be working fine. Kind regards Grant Edwards WIP SUBASSEMBLY SERVICE RAW_MATERIAL MARKETING_PKG_PICK MARKETING_PKG_AUTO GOOD FINISHED_GOOD FINDIG_GOOD DIGITAL_GOOD ASSET_USAGE AGGREGATED_CONF AGGREGATED David E Jones wrote: > > Enrique, > > You mentioned: "you are supposed to be able to configure ofbiz > so that it behaves in such a way that it triggers the invoice generation > process as soon as the order is approved in the case of services". > > If that's the case it is functionality I've never heard of, but it > could exist! > > I think one of the reasons is that services aren't often done through > products. For now you could mark those products as digital goods, but > that's assuming you can and should bill for services immediately, ie > before they are performed. > > Typically services are billed by agreement, and against hour entries, > and that is what OFBiz supports right now OOTB. If you have a > timesheet or a WorkEffort with time entries associated with it you can > add invoice items to a new or existing invoice for those. > > -David > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Enrique Ruibal wrote: > >> >> Yeah, it makes me wonder too..you are supposed to be able to >> configure ofbiz >> so that it behaves in such a way that it triggers the invoice generation >> process as soon as the order is approved in the case of services, >> although >> I'm not that familiar with the framework yet, so that I could provide >> further useful advice. >> >> Perhaps some one more experienced with this part could give us a >> hint, as to >> how to acomplish this. >> >> -Enrique Ruibal >> >> >> Rees Watkins wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> Thanks for you responce. >>> If I change my product to a digital good then an invoice is >>> generated and >>> all accounts are fine. >>> I do not understand why service product type does not generate an >>> invoice. >>> Service is not inherited from good - most product types including >>> digital >>> good are. >>> Do you have any ideas on why an invoice is not generated. I am rather >>> lost. >>> Thanks >>> Rees >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Enrique Ruibal <[hidden email]> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Sent: Thursday, 19 June, 2008 5:17:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: Invoice for service >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think it is a matter of configuring ofbiz it is certainly not a >>> standard >>> behavior e.g. something you would find in the demo data, I had a long >>> discussion in the forums previously, you might like to check this >>> thread >>> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Approve-Orders-with-service-products-tt16242722.html#a16659894 >>> >>> >>> -Enrique Ruibal >>> >>> >>> >>> Rees Watkins wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> Invoices are generated when an item is shipped. >>>> Services products are not shipped, so an invoice is not generated. >>>> An invoice need to be generated for the item to be reflected in the >>>> Sales >>>> ledger - according to the default ledger setup. >>>> This does not seem right. Can someone please spot my error. >>>> Kind reagrds >>>> Rees >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________________ >>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail. >>>> A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >>>> >>> >>> --View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/Invoice-for-service-tp17992677p17996588.html >>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail. >>> A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >>> >> >> --View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Invoice-for-service-tp17992677p18011318.html >> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > |
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