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One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html Opinions? Jacques |
I think a branch would be appropriate
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: > Hi, > > One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. > http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html > > Opinions? > > Jacques > |
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As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not
introduce much changes anyway... Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >I think a branch would be appropriate > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >> Hi, >> >> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html >> >> Opinions? >> >> Jacques >> |
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+1 for java 7 But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the code we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with resources or the new diamond operator for generics ... So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes testing everything properly and merge back. Have a good day Sascha 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at > least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much > changes anyway... > > Jacques > > From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > > I think a branch would be appropriate >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html<http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>> >>> Opinions? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> -- Sascha Rodekamp Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz Lynx-Consulting GmbH Johanniskirchplatz 6 D-33615 Bielefeld http://www.lynx.de |
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Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about
a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people interested before taking any decision... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 Jacques From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> > Hi, > > +1 for java 7 > But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the code > we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with resources > or the new diamond operator for generics ... > > So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes > testing everything properly and merge back. > > Have a good day > Sascha > > > > 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at >> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much >> changes anyway... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >> >> I think a branch would be appropriate >>> >>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html<http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>> >>>> Opinions? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> > > > -- > > Sascha Rodekamp > Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz > Lynx-Consulting GmbH > Johanniskirchplatz 6 > D-33615 Bielefeld > http://www.lynx.de > |
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When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. Regards Scott On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about > a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. > It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people interested before taking any decision... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 > > Jacques > > From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >> Hi, >> >> +1 for java 7 >> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the code >> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with resources >> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >> >> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes >> testing everything properly and merge back. >> >> Have a good day >> Sascha >> >> >> >> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> >>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at >>> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much >>> changes anyway... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>> >>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>>> >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html<http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>>> >>>>> Opinions? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sascha Rodekamp >> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >> D-33615 Bielefeld >> http://www.lynx.de >> smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
>> When is the EOL for java 6?
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6. I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. Thanks! -- Ashish On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email]>wrote: > -1 > > When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 you > are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they MUST use > Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. > > Regards > Scott > > On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > > > Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 > are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about > > a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. > > It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. > But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people > interested before taking any decision... > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 > > > > Jacques > > > > From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> > >> Hi, > >> > >> +1 for java 7 > >> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the > code > >> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with > resources > >> or the new diamond operator for generics ... > >> > >> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes > >> testing everything properly and merge back. > >> > >> Have a good day > >> Sascha > >> > >> > >> > >> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >> > >>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at > >>> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much > >>> changes anyway... > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > >>> > >>> I think a branch would be appropriate > >>>> > >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. > >>>>> > http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< > http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> > >>>>> > >>>>> Opinions? > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Sascha Rodekamp > >> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz > >> Lynx-Consulting GmbH > >> Johanniskirchplatz 6 > >> D-33615 Bielefeld > >> http://www.lynx.de > >> > > |
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It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months...
Jacques From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>> When is the EOL for java 6? > > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html > > <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table inside > "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java 6. > > -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is saying "Dec > 2016" as EOL for Java 6. > > I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support > Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. > Thanks! > > -- > Ashish > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> -1 >> >> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 you >> are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they MUST use >> Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >> > Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 >> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >> > a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >> > It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. >> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >> interested before taking any decision... >> > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 >> > >> > Jacques >> > >> > From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> +1 for java 7 >> >> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the >> code >> >> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >> resources >> >> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >> >> >> >> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes >> >> testing everything properly and merge back. >> >> >> >> Have a good day >> >> Sascha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> >> >> >>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at >> >>> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much >> >>> changes anyway... >> >>> >> >>> Jacques >> >>> >> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >> >>> >> >>> I think a branch would be appropriate >> >>>> >> >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >> >>>>> >> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Opinions? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Jacques >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Sascha Rodekamp >> >> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >> >> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >> >> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >> >> D-33615 Bielefeld >> >> http://www.lynx.de >> >> >> >> > |
You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012.
Regards Scott On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... > > Jacques > > From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>> When is the EOL for java 6? >> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table inside >> "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java 6. >> -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is saying "Dec >> 2016" as EOL for Java 6. >> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support >> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. >> Thanks! >> -- >> Ashish >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email]>wrote: >>> -1 >>> >>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 you >>> are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they MUST use >>> Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >>> >>> Regards >>> Scott >>> >>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>> > Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 >>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >>> > a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >>> > It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. >>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >>> interested before taking any decision... >>> > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 >>> > >>> > Jacques >>> > >>> > From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> +1 for java 7 >>> >> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the >>> code >>> >> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >>> resources >>> >> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >>> >> >>> >> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes >>> >> testing everything properly and merge back. >>> >> >>> >> Have a good day >>> >> Sascha >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>> >> >>> >>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at >>> >>> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much >>> >>> changes anyway... >>> >>> >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>> >>> >>> >>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>> >>>>> >>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Opinions? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Jacques >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> Sascha Rodekamp >>> >> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >>> >> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>> >> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>> >> D-33615 Bielefeld >>> >> http://www.lynx.de >>> >> >>> >>> >> smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
OpenJDK IS the official JDK this time around. So while a particular
platform may not be built/completed yet, its open source so anyone can contribute. On the timing, I would suggest that making sure that ofbiz is Java 7 tolerant is the first priority, then when you want new features think about whether you can justify locking users of the old Java 6 out of ofbiz. Unfortunately some enterprises are very slow to move - and forcing people to move is what MS are always accused of. David On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Scott Gray wrote: > You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking > OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012. > > Regards > Scott > > On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > > It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes > > is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... > > > > Jacques > > > > From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> > > > >>>> When is the EOL for java 6? > >> > >> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html > >> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table > >> inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java > >> 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is > >> saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6. > >> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support > >> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. > >> Thanks! > >> -- > >> Ashish > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray > >>> -1 > >>> > >>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 > >>> you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they > >>> MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >>> > Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java > >>> > 7 > >>> > >>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about > >>> > >>> > a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. > >>> > It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to > >>> > Java 7. > >>> > >>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people > >>> interested before taking any decision... > >>> > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28. > >>> 2C_2011.29 > >>> > >>> > Jacques > >>> > > >>> > From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> > >>> > > >>> >> Hi, > >>> >> > >>> >> +1 for java 7 > >>> >> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of > >>> >> the > >>> > >>> code > >>> > >>> >> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with > >>> > >>> resources > >>> > >>> >> or the new diamond operator for generics ... > >>> >> > >>> >> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some > >>> >> changes testing everything properly and merge back. > >>> >> > >>> >> Have a good day > >>> >> Sascha > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >>> >> > >>> >>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really > >>> >>> needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not > >>> >>> introduce much changes anyway... > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Jacques > >>> >>> > >>> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I think a branch would be appropriate > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: > >>> >>>>> Hi, > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. > >>> > >>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< > >>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> > >>> > >>> >>>>> Opinions? > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Jacques > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> > >>> >> Sascha Rodekamp > >>> >> > >>> >> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz > >>> >> Lynx-Consulting GmbH > >>> >> Johanniskirchplatz 6 > >>> >> D-33615 Bielefeld > >>> >> http://www.lynx.de |
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OK, no hurry, we will see again during 2010 then...
Jacques Scott Gray wrote: > You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until > sometime in 2012. > > Regards > Scott > > On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? >>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table inside >>> "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java 6. >>> -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is saying "Dec >>> 2016" as EOL for Java 6. >>> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support >>> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. >>> Thanks! >>> -- >>> Ashish >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>> -1 >>>> >>>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 you >>>> are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they MUST use >>>> Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java 7 >>>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >>>>> a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >>>>> It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to Java 7. >>>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >>>> interested before taking any decision... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.2C_2011.29 >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 for java 7 >>>>>> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of the >>>> code >>>>>> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >>>> resources >>>>>> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >>>>>> >>>>>> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some changes >>>>>> testing everything properly and merge back. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a good day >>>>>> Sascha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really needed, at >>>>>>> least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not introduce much >>>>>>> changes anyway... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>>>>>>> >>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Opinions? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>> http://www.lynx.de smime.p7s (8K) Download Attachment |
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+1 on making sure that OFBiz runs without problems on Java 7 before trying to add any new features that means it only runs on Java 7.
Is it worth asking infra to setup buildbot, demo system etc up for testing against both 6 & 7? Also wondering if there is any rule of thumb about when the new Java release become stable enough for production, like Tomcat is +6 months? Sam On 5 Oct 2011, at 20:34, David Goodenough wrote: > OpenJDK IS the official JDK this time around. So while a particular > platform may not be built/completed yet, its open source so anyone > can contribute. > > On the timing, I would suggest that making sure that ofbiz is > Java 7 tolerant is the first priority, then when you want new > features think about whether you can justify locking users of the > old Java 6 out of ofbiz. Unfortunately some enterprises are very > slow to move - and forcing people to move is what MS are always > accused of. > > David > > On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Scott Gray wrote: >> You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking >> OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes >>> is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>> >>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? >>>> >>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >>>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table >>>> inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java >>>> 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is >>>> saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6. >>>> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support >>>> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. >>>> Thanks! >>>> -- >>>> Ashish >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray > <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>>> -1 >>>>> >>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 >>>>> you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they >>>>> MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>> Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java >>>>>> 7 >>>>> >>>>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >>>>> >>>>>> a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >>>>>> It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to >>>>>> Java 7. >>>>> >>>>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >>>>> interested before taking any decision... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28. >>>>> 2C_2011.29 >>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for java 7 >>>>>>> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of >>>>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> code >>>>> >>>>>>> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >>>>> >>>>> resources >>>>> >>>>>>> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some >>>>>>> changes testing everything properly and merge back. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a good day >>>>>>> Sascha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really >>>>>>>> needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not >>>>>>>> introduce much changes anyway... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Opinions? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de > smime.p7s (6K) Download Attachment |
Not sure if everyone saw this but this page has a nice graphic showing the JDK roadmap
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At the moment (and actually at any moment ;o), I don't think infra has the resources for this kind of demand...
Did someone test locally? Could someone install a CI for it on its own? Jacques Sam Hamilton wrote: > +1 on making sure that OFBiz runs without problems on Java 7 before trying to add any new features that means it only runs on > Java 7. > > Is it worth asking infra to setup buildbot, demo system etc up for testing against both 6 & 7? > > Also wondering if there is any rule of thumb about when the new Java release become stable enough for production, like Tomcat is > +6 months? > > > Sam > > On 5 Oct 2011, at 20:34, David Goodenough wrote: > >> OpenJDK IS the official JDK this time around. So while a particular >> platform may not be built/completed yet, its open source so anyone >> can contribute. >> >> On the timing, I would suggest that making sure that ofbiz is >> Java 7 tolerant is the first priority, then when you want new >> features think about whether you can justify locking users of the >> old Java 6 out of ofbiz. Unfortunately some enterprises are very >> slow to move - and forcing people to move is what MS are always >> accused of. >> >> David >> >> On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Scott Gray wrote: >>> You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking >>> OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012. >>> >>> Regards >>> Scott >>> >>> On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes >>>> is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table >>>>> inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java >>>>> 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is >>>>> saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6. >>>>> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support >>>>> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> -- >>>>> Ashish >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray >> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>>>> -1 >>>>>> >>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 >>>>>> you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they >>>>>> MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java >>>>>>> 7 >>>>>> >>>>>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >>>>>> >>>>>>> a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >>>>>>> It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to >>>>>>> Java 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >>>>>> interested before taking any decision... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28. >>>>>> 2C_2011.29 >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 for java 7 >>>>>>>> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> code >>>>>> >>>>>>>> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >>>>>> >>>>>> resources >>>>>> >>>>>>>> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some >>>>>>>> changes testing everything properly and merge back. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have a good day >>>>>>>> Sascha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really >>>>>>>>> needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not >>>>>>>>> introduce much changes anyway... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Opinions? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >>>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de smime.p7s (8K) Download Attachment |
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Finally it's a WIP, we have already Builbot builds for all releases, we still miss to run tests, but this should be done soon also
Jacques From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> > At the moment (and actually at any moment ;o), I don't think infra has the resources for this kind of demand... > > Did someone test locally? Could someone install a CI for it on its own? > > Jacques > > Sam Hamilton wrote: >> +1 on making sure that OFBiz runs without problems on Java 7 before trying to add any new features that means it only runs on >> Java 7. >> >> Is it worth asking infra to setup buildbot, demo system etc up for testing against both 6 & 7? >> >> Also wondering if there is any rule of thumb about when the new Java release become stable enough for production, like Tomcat is >> +6 months? >> >> >> Sam >> >> On 5 Oct 2011, at 20:34, David Goodenough wrote: >> >>> OpenJDK IS the official JDK this time around. So while a particular >>> platform may not be built/completed yet, its open source so anyone >>> can contribute. >>> >>> On the timing, I would suggest that making sure that ofbiz is >>> Java 7 tolerant is the first priority, then when you want new >>> features think about whether you can justify locking users of the >>> old Java 6 out of ofbiz. Unfortunately some enterprises are very >>> slow to move - and forcing people to move is what MS are always >>> accused of. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking >>>> OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes >>>>> is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months... >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table >>>>>> inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java >>>>>> 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is >>>>>> saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6. >>>>>> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support >>>>>> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose. >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ashish >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray >>> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>>>>> -1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6? What is the rush? By switching to Java 7 >>>>>>> you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they >>>>>>> MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>> Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java >>>>>>>> 7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch. >>>>>>>> It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to >>>>>>>> Java 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people >>>>>>> interested before taking any decision... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28. >>>>>>> 2C_2011.29 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 for java 7 >>>>>>>>> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> code >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> resources >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or the new diamond operator for generics ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some >>>>>>>>> changes testing everything properly and merge back. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a good day >>>>>>>>> Sascha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really >>>>>>>>>> needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not >>>>>>>>>> introduce much changes anyway... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think a branch would be appropriate >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html< >>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz >>>>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de smime.p7s (8K) Download Attachment |
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