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Tim Ruppert
David will be the best resource for this - he is the original architect of the documents and I'm sure will help you to understand how to make all of this happen.

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Babu Sreekanth wrote:

> Ruppert,
>   thanks for the documents. To update them, is it possible to post a quick writeup in wiki on
>
> 1. how to get (updated) emodeled files from ofbiz
> 2. how to know the changes in data model from the creation of those files, and how to manually incorporate the changes
> 3. software necessary for transformation into pdf documents in different platforms
>
> thanks,
> Babu.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 9:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)
>
> Anytime my friend - anytime.
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 7:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I just checked it out, and it looks good.
>>
>> Thanks again Tim.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>>> This is complete - under the site under the directory ofbiz_datamodel - just as it was in our repo.  David, feel free to move that around wherever you like and give everyone a tour of the work that was put in and how much this may help them going forward.  Great stuff.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cool, sounds great.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah - I think putting them into SVN would be best - I'll do that later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to you, and to Hotwax, for making these available. With all of the work on color and adding seed data and such that Laurian did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am biased about that).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the place that makes the most sense for now is attached to a page on cwiki. If people start updating too much it might make sense to put them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start with that (in the ofbiz/site directory would probably be best).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HotWax would love to donate these and the time that went into them from David Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great set of information for people learning or using OFBiz - for those of you at ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these out at the booth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be warned that they haven't been updated in about a year, but they do have a ton of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to getting these efforts started up again.  David, just let me know where you'd like them and I'll get them posted and the effort can again be off to the races.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If people are interested in making diagrams there is some stuff build into OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file format can be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac (my preferred tool being OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the weeks I put into that code, organizing the entities into groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't actually have any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm not sure what the situation is with them (a Hotwax rep would have to answer that I guess).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)

David E. Jones-2
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For those looking at these the first time, the best file to choose is the "AllDiagramsAndTOC_20081030.pdf" file.

After reviewing these files we might want to move the PDF files to a cwiki page and attach them to it, and eliminate them from SVN (they are rather large, and being binary files can't benefit from revision management). I may also go ahead and remove the eomodeld files since they aren't all that useful any more, and are also fairly large (lots of files anyway).

I'll be doing this soon in order to avoid all of these files ending up on the web site on the next update.

Answers inline...



On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Babu Sreekanth wrote:

> Ruppert,
>   thanks for the documents. To update them, is it possible to post a quick writeup in wiki on
>
> 1. how to get (updated) emodeled files from ofbiz

In the WebTools app there is a screen to export eomodeld files for different entity groups (ie based on the records in the EntityGroup and related entities).

> 2. how to know the changes in data model from the creation of those files, and how to manually incorporate the changes

There is no use in manually changing the eomodeld files, and I wouldn't recommend creating new diagrams based on them either... it would be an ENORMOUS amount of work. The finished diagrams you see are the result of hundreds of hours of work (if I were to guess I'd say about 500 hours).

> 3. software necessary for transformation into pdf documents in different platforms

As I explained in an earlier message software for the eomodeld files only exists in Mac OS X machines (AFAIK anyway). The problem we used for creating these diagrams is called "OmniGraffle". The .graffle files that are needed to change these diagrams are in SVN, in the site/ofbiz_datamodel/graffle_diagrams directory.

-David



> ________________________________
> From: Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 9:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)
>
> Anytime my friend - anytime.
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 7:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I just checked it out, and it looks good.
>>
>> Thanks again Tim.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>>> This is complete - under the site under the directory ofbiz_datamodel - just as it was in our repo.  David, feel free to move that around wherever you like and give everyone a tour of the work that was put in and how much this may help them going forward.  Great stuff.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cool, sounds great.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah - I think putting them into SVN would be best - I'll do that later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to you, and to Hotwax, for making these available. With all of the work on color and adding seed data and such that Laurian did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am biased about that).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the place that makes the most sense for now is attached to a page on cwiki. If people start updating too much it might make sense to put them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start with that (in the ofbiz/site directory would probably be best).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HotWax would love to donate these and the time that went into them from David Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great set of information for people learning or using OFBiz - for those of you at ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these out at the booth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be warned that they haven't been updated in about a year, but they do have a ton of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to getting these efforts started up again.  David, just let me know where you'd like them and I'll get them posted and the effort can again be off to the races.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If people are interested in making diagrams there is some stuff build into OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file format can be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac (my preferred tool being OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the weeks I put into that code, organizing the entities into groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't actually have any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm not sure what the situation is with them (a Hotwax rep would have to answer that I guess).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)

David E. Jones-2

The data model diagrams are now on cwiki, available on this page:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Data+Model+Diagrams

Please note that because there is a 20MB limit for files on cwiki the version of the diagrams attached is split into a table of contents (TOC) and 4 files with different page ranges.

If anyone hasn't taken a look at these yet I highly recommend that you do. They are a great resource for training as well as for discussions and reference during developments. I've had an older version of this document in my desk drawer for a couple of years now to use for easy reference.

Enjoy!

-David


On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:23 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> For those looking at these the first time, the best file to choose is the "AllDiagramsAndTOC_20081030.pdf" file.
>
> After reviewing these files we might want to move the PDF files to a cwiki page and attach them to it, and eliminate them from SVN (they are rather large, and being binary files can't benefit from revision management). I may also go ahead and remove the eomodeld files since they aren't all that useful any more, and are also fairly large (lots of files anyway).
>
> I'll be doing this soon in order to avoid all of these files ending up on the web site on the next update.
>
> Answers inline...
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Babu Sreekanth wrote:
>
>> Ruppert,
>>  thanks for the documents. To update them, is it possible to post a quick writeup in wiki on
>>
>> 1. how to get (updated) emodeled files from ofbiz
>
> In the WebTools app there is a screen to export eomodeld files for different entity groups (ie based on the records in the EntityGroup and related entities).
>
>> 2. how to know the changes in data model from the creation of those files, and how to manually incorporate the changes
>
> There is no use in manually changing the eomodeld files, and I wouldn't recommend creating new diagrams based on them either... it would be an ENORMOUS amount of work. The finished diagrams you see are the result of hundreds of hours of work (if I were to guess I'd say about 500 hours).
>
>> 3. software necessary for transformation into pdf documents in different platforms
>
> As I explained in an earlier message software for the eomodeld files only exists in Mac OS X machines (AFAIK anyway). The problem we used for creating these diagrams is called "OmniGraffle". The .graffle files that are needed to change these diagrams are in SVN, in the site/ofbiz_datamodel/graffle_diagrams directory.
>
> -David
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 9:47:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)
>>
>> Anytime my friend - anytime.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 7:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I just checked it out, and it looks good.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Tim.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is complete - under the site under the directory ofbiz_datamodel - just as it was in our repo.  David, feel free to move that around wherever you like and give everyone a tour of the work that was put in and how much this may help them going forward.  Great stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>
>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool, sounds great.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah - I think putting them into SVN would be best - I'll do that later today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to you, and to Hotwax, for making these available. With all of the work on color and adding seed data and such that Laurian did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am biased about that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess the place that makes the most sense for now is attached to a page on cwiki. If people start updating too much it might make sense to put them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start with that (in the ofbiz/site directory would probably be best).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HotWax would love to donate these and the time that went into them from David Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great set of information for people learning or using OFBiz - for those of you at ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these out at the booth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be warned that they haven't been updated in about a year, but they do have a ton of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to getting these efforts started up again.  David, just let me know where you'd like them and I'll get them posted and the effort can again be off to the races.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If people are interested in making diagrams there is some stuff build into OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file format can be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac (my preferred tool being OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the weeks I put into that code, organizing the entities into groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't actually have any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm not sure what the situation is with them (a Hotwax rep would have to answer that I guess).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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David E. Jones-2
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Yeah, it probably wouldn't work so well. Those files are rather large, and SVN doesn't handle large files so well, plus the version control isn't all that useful for this sort of file. On top of that the storage and bandwidth requirements are pretty serious for these.

So, vimeo or something is the way to go.

-David


On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Matt Warnock wrote:

> Would SVN be a ridiculous idea for the videos too?  Just a thought...
>
> On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 18:16 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> Cool, sounds great.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah - I think putting them into SVN would be best - I'll do that later today.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to you, and to Hotwax, for making these available. With all of the work on color and adding seed data and such that Laurian did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am biased about that).
>>>>
>>>> I guess the place that makes the most sense for now is attached to a page on cwiki. If people start updating too much it might make sense to put them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start with that (in the ofbiz/site directory would probably be best).
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HotWax would love to donate these and the time that went into them from David Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great set of information for people learning or using OFBiz - for those of you at ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these out at the booth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Be warned that they haven't been updated in about a year, but they do have a ton of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to getting these efforts started up again.  David, just let me know where you'd like them and I'll get them posted and the effort can again be off to the races.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>
>>>>> o:801.649.6594
>>>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If people are interested in making diagrams there is some stuff build into OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file format can be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac (my preferred tool being OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the weeks I put into that code, organizing the entities into groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't actually have any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm not sure what the situation is with them (a Hotwax rep would have to answer that I guess).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]>
> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
>

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Jeroen van der Wal-2
Last time I ran into the limitations a free Vimeo account so today I
purchased a Vimeo Plus account to be used for the OFbiz training videos. I
don't have access to the original videos so I would like to forward the
account details to anybody who is willing to upload them.

Jeroen van der Wal
Stromboli b.v.
+31 655 874050


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:45 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Yeah, it probably wouldn't work so well. Those files are rather large, and
> SVN doesn't handle large files so well, plus the version control isn't all
> that useful for this sort of file. On top of that the storage and bandwidth
> requirements are pretty serious for these.
>
> So, vimeo or something is the way to go.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Matt Warnock wrote:
>
> > Would SVN be a ridiculous idea for the videos too?  Just a thought...
> >
> > On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 18:16 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >> Cool, sounds great.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah - I think putting them into SVN would be best - I'll do that later
> today.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Ruppert
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to you, and to Hotwax, for making these
> available. With all of the work on color and adding seed data and such that
> Laurian did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am biased about
> that).
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess the place that makes the most sense for now is attached to a
> page on cwiki. If people start updating too much it might make sense to put
> them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start with that (in
> the ofbiz/site directory would probably be best).
> >>>>
> >>>> -David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> HotWax would love to donate these and the time that went into them
> from David Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great set of
> information for people learning or using OFBiz - for those of you at
> ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these out at the booth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Be warned that they haven't been updated in about a year, but they do
> have a ton of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to
> getting these efforts started up again.  David, just let me know where you'd
> like them and I'll get them posted and the effort can again be off to the
> races.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Ruppert
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Tim Ruppert
> >>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> o:801.649.6594
> >>>>> f:801.649.6595
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If people are interested in making diagrams there is some stuff
> build into OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file format can
> be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac (my preferred tool being
> OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the weeks I put into that code, organizing the
> entities into groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the
> groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't actually have
> any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm not sure what the situation is
> with them (a Hotwax rep would have to answer that I guess).
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt Warnock <[hidden email]>
> > RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
> >
>
>
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Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)

Adrian Crum-2
In reply to this post by David E. Jones-2
Those documents rock! Thank you Tim and David!

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: David E Jones <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data model relationship pages in Wiki)
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 10:39 PM
>
> The data model diagrams are now on cwiki, available on this
> page:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Data+Model+Diagrams
>
> Please note that because there is a 20MB limit for files on
> cwiki the version of the diagrams attached is split into a
> table of contents (TOC) and 4 files with different page
> ranges.
>
> If anyone hasn't taken a look at these yet I highly
> recommend that you do. They are a great resource for
> training as well as for discussions and reference during
> developments. I've had an older version of this document in
> my desk drawer for a couple of years now to use for easy
> reference.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:23 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> >
> > For those looking at these the first time, the best
> file to choose is the "AllDiagramsAndTOC_20081030.pdf"
> file.
> >
> > After reviewing these files we might want to move the
> PDF files to a cwiki page and attach them to it, and
> eliminate them from SVN (they are rather large, and being
> binary files can't benefit from revision management). I may
> also go ahead and remove the eomodeld files since they
> aren't all that useful any more, and are also fairly large
> (lots of files anyway).
> >
> > I'll be doing this soon in order to avoid all of these
> files ending up on the web site on the next update.
> >
> > Answers inline...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Babu Sreekanth wrote:
> >
> >> Ruppert,
> >>  thanks for the documents. To update them, is
> it possible to post a quick writeup in wiki on
> >>
> >> 1. how to get (updated) emodeled files from ofbiz
>
> >
> > In the WebTools app there is a screen to export
> eomodeld files for different entity groups (ie based on the
> records in the EntityGroup and related entities).
> >
> >> 2. how to know the changes in data model from the
> creation of those files, and how to manually incorporate the
> changes
> >
> > There is no use in manually changing the eomodeld
> files, and I wouldn't recommend creating new diagrams based
> on them either... it would be an ENORMOUS amount of work.
> The finished diagrams you see are the result of hundreds of
> hours of work (if I were to guess I'd say about 500 hours).
> >
> >> 3. software necessary for transformation into pdf
> documents in different platforms
> >
> > As I explained in an earlier message software for the
> eomodeld files only exists in Mac OS X machines (AFAIK
> anyway). The problem we used for creating these diagrams is
> called "OmniGraffle". The .graffle files that are needed to
> change these diagrams are in SVN, in the
> site/ofbiz_datamodel/graffle_diagrams directory.
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 9:47:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Data Model Diagrams (was Re: Key data
> model relationship pages in Wiki)
> >>
> >> Anytime my friend - anytime.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ruppert
> >> --
> >> Tim Ruppert
> >> HotWax Media
> >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>
> >> o:801.649.6594
> >> f:801.649.6595
> >>
> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 7:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I just checked it out, and it looks good.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again Tim.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ruppert
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is complete - under the site under
> the directory ofbiz_datamodel - just as it was in our
> repo.  David, feel free to move that around wherever
> you like and give everyone a tour of the work that was put
> in and how much this may help them going forward. 
> Great stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Ruppert
> >>>> --
> >>>> Tim Ruppert
> >>>> HotWax Media
> >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>
> >>>> o:801.649.6594
> >>>> f:801.649.6595
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, David E Jones
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cool, sounds great.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Tim
> Ruppert wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah - I think putting them into
> SVN would be best - I'll do that later today.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Ruppert
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, David
> E Jones wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's great Tim. Thank you to
> you, and to Hotwax, for making these available. With all of
> the work on color and adding seed data and such that Laurian
> did these are really great diagrams (well, I guess I am
> biased about that).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I guess the place that makes
> the most sense for now is attached to a page on cwiki. If
> people start updating too much it might make sense to put
> them in SVN somewhere, or maybe it would be better to start
> with that (in the ofbiz/site directory would probably be
> best).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:03 AM,
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> HotWax would love to
> donate these and the time that went into them from David
> Jones, John Maw and Laurian Escalanti.  It's a great
> set of information for people learning or using OFBiz - for
> those of you at ApacheCon New Orleans, we were handing these
> out at the booth.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Be warned that they
> haven't been updated in about a year, but they do have a ton
> of useful information that will be an amazing jump start to
> getting these efforts started up again.  David, just
> let me know where you'd like them and I'll get them posted
> and the effort can again be off to the races.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Ruppert
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert
> >>>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594
> >>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:31
> PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If people are
> interested in making diagrams there is some stuff build into
> OFBiz to export "eomodeld" files. That particular file
> format can be imported by a few tools, but mostly on the Mac
> (my preferred tool being OmniGraffle). Unfortunately the
> weeks I put into that code, organizing the entities into
> groups, and then creating and organizing diagrams for the
> groups, was done while I was part of Hotwax Media so I don't
> actually have any rights to the diagrams any more, and I'm
> not sure what the situation is with them (a Hotwax rep would
> have to answer that I guess).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>



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Jeroen van der Wal-2
I noticed the workflow entities on page 31, is anybody working on this? I
recently bought the Datamodel Resource Book Vol 3 which discribes a similar
pattern around business rules and I was thinking of adding that to OFbiz.

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Data+Model+Diagrams
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Matt Warnock
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My thought was that the local server (rather than a web site) might
actually be the ideal place for video.  Certainly the warnings on the
old site about downloading, not streaming, suggest that may be the case.
SVN would make updates or additions automatic if/when they happen, which
(so far) has not really been an issue.  

A video component of the local help system, like the docbook system,
might be a good thing as the system grows.  A standard local location,
and standard links to them from the help pages would be good, but
possible language differences etc. militate in favor of it being
optional, and as you say, SVN may not be the optimal way to deal with
it.  When OFBiz goes modular, it may be one kind of module to think
about.

Is there a java equivalent of apt-get, yum, or rpm?

Just a thought.

On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 00:45 -0600, David E Jones wrote:

> Yeah, it probably wouldn't work so well. Those files are rather large,
>  and SVN doesn't handle large files so well, plus the version control
>  isn't all that useful for this sort of file. On top of that the
>  storage and bandwidth requirements are pretty serious for these.
>
> So, vimeo or something is the way to go.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Matt Warnock wrote:
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> > Would SVN be a ridiculous idea for the videos too?  Just a thought...
> >


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