License in Neogia (OFBiz)
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CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not be making any changes in Neogia source code. Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), we would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are willing to publish them. with best regard mridu pobon |
Re: License in Neogia (OFBiz)
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Hi Mridu,
you should really post this to the Neogia mailing lists (www.neogia.org). Jacopo Mridu Rajkhowa wrote: > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), we > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are > willing to publish them. > > > with best regard > mridu pobon |
Re: License in Neogia (OFBiz)
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Mridu!
Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused about two things: 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License and GPL incompatible? 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I understand is even more restrictively licensed. Regards, Torsten -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> An: [hidden email], [hidden email] Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), > we > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are > willing to publish them. > > > with best regard > mridu pobon |
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Torsten,
Torsten Schlabach wrote: > Mridu! > > Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? > > I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused about two things: > > 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License and GPL incompatible? In two words, Neogia's license (GPL) is more restrictive than OFBiz's license (ASL2.0), and so they can use (and they actually do it) our stuff but we can't use their. Jacopo > 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I understand is even more restrictively licensed. > > Regards, > Torsten > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 > Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> > An: [hidden email], [hidden email] > Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > >> >> CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by >> Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT >> Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open >> domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry >> kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. >> You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) >> >> CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management >> system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. >> >> We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not >> be making any changes in Neogia source code. >> >> Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), >> we >> would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along >> with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are >> willing to publish them. >> >> >> with best regard >> mridu pobon |
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Torsten
thanks for your reply . So far as i know both opentap and neogia are developed based on OFBiz .That's why they are leading to the same type of interface. i am very much sure that i cannot bundle opentap with our software (CollabCAD).But i dont know anything about Neogia license .Moreover i am not getting any email id to ask these FAQ to the Neogia developer . with regards mridu On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 Torsten Schlabach wrote : >Mridu! > >Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? > >I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused about two things: > >1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License and GPL incompatible? >2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I understand is even more restrictively licensed. > >Regards, >Torsten > >-------- Original-Nachricht -------- >Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 >Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> >An: [hidden email], [hidden email] >Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > > > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by > > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open > > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry > > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. > > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management > > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not > > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), > > we > > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are > > willing to publish them. > > > > > > with best regard > > mridu pobon |
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I am not a lawyer but my understanding is:
Neogia is a GPL and if your software drives from it, you also need to license your software under GPL. Raj Mridu Rajkhowa wrote: > Torsten > > thanks for your reply . > > So far as i know both opentap and neogia are developed based on OFBiz .That's why they are leading to the same type of interface. > > i am very much sure that i cannot bundle opentap with our software (CollabCAD).But i dont know anything about Neogia license .Moreover i am not getting any email id to ask these FAQ to the Neogia developer . > > with regards > mridu > > > On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 Torsten Schlabach wrote : > >> Mridu! >> >> Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? >> >> I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused about two things: >> >> 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License and GPL incompatible? >> 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I understand is even more restrictively licensed. >> >> Regards, >> Torsten >> >> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 >> Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> >> An: [hidden email], [hidden email] >> Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) >> >> >>> CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by >>> Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT >>> Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open >>> domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry >>> kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. >>> You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) >>> >>> CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management >>> system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. >>> >>> We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not >>> be making any changes in Neogia source code. >>> >>> Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), >>> we >>> would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along >>> with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are >>> willing to publish them. >>> >>> >>> with best regard >>> mridu pobon >>> > > |
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hello Jacopo i am sorry to say that i could not find the email id (from neogia site )to whome i can send this mail .that's why i am sending it to you with regard mridu On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 Jacopo Cappellato wrote : >Hi Mridu, > >you should really post this to the Neogia mailing lists (www.neogia.org). > >Jacopo > > >Mridu Rajkhowa wrote: >> CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by >> Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT >>Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open >>domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry >>kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. >>You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) >> >>CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management >>system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. >> >>We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not >>be making any changes in Neogia source code. >> >>Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), we >>would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along >>with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are >>willing to publish them. >> >> >>with best regard mridu pobon > > |
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Torsten,
If you look more closely to the Neogia Demo you'll find that the accounting, facility, and manufacturing modules are different from those of Ofbiz. what I like the most in Neogia is their code generator which generates module's code from a UML model stored in XMI format. BTW, their modified modules are almost completely generated code. The mailing list for Neogia is [hidden email] Regards. Amine. 2007/4/3, Torsten Schlabach <[hidden email]>: > > Mridu! > > Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? > > I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused > about two things: > > 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License and > GPL incompatible? > 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I > understand is even more restrictively licensed. > > Regards, > Torsten > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 > Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> > An: [hidden email], [hidden email] > Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > > > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed > by > > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open > > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry > > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. > > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management > > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not > > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License > (GPL), > > we > > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we > are > > willing to publish them. > > > > > > with best regard > > mridu pobon > |
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> If you look more closely to the Neogia Demo you'll find that the
> accounting, facility, and manufacturing modules are different from those > of Ofbiz. Yes. And I think they are those from Opentaps, aren't they? I mean, I am not quite sure what the original work of Neogia is. It looks like a re-packaged Opentaps to me. Regards, Torsten -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:07:10 +0100 Von: "Amine AZZI" <[hidden email]> An: [hidden email] Betreff: Re: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > Torsten, > > If you look more closely to the Neogia Demo you'll find that the > accounting, > facility, and manufacturing modules are different from those of Ofbiz. > what I like the most in Neogia is their code generator which generates > module's code from a UML model stored in XMI format. BTW, their modified > modules are almost completely generated code. > > The mailing list for Neogia is [hidden email] > > Regards. > Amine. > > 2007/4/3, Torsten Schlabach <[hidden email]>: > > > > Mridu! > > > > Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean OFBiz? > > > > I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused > > about two things: > > > > 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License > and > > GPL incompatible? > > 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I > > understand is even more restrictively licensed. > > > > Regards, > > Torsten > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 > > Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> > > An: [hidden email], [hidden email] > > Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > > > > > > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System > developed > > by > > > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > > > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven > Open > > > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade > geometry > > > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, > VRML. > > > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > > > > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content > management > > > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > > > > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will > not > > > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > > > > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License > > (GPL), > > > we > > > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > > > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we > > are > > > willing to publish them. > > > > > > > > > with best regard > > > mridu pobon > > |
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Mridu,
You guys already asked me about this for opentaps, and the answer is probably the same for Neogia: since you do not allow your users to access your source code, you cannot incorporate GPL-based Neogia either. *You really should consult an attorney instead of ask on mailing lists though.* Mridu Rajkhowa wrote: > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System developed by > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the IT > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven Open > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade geometry > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, VRML. > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content management > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will not > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License (GPL), we > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we are > willing to publish them. > > > with best regard > mridu pobon > |
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Torsten,
> > If you look more closely to the Neogia Demo you'll find that the > > accounting, facility, and manufacturing modules are different from those > > of Ofbiz. > > Yes. And I think they are those from Opentaps, aren't they? > > I mean, I am not quite sure what the original work of Neogia is. It looks like a re-packaged Opentaps to me. Neogia has some components wich replace OFBiz ones : accounting, facility, and manufacturing. They are mostly generated from UML class diagrams, some parts of them are developed in a standard way (by hand ;o). The other components, including Opentaps are originals. Jacques > Regards, > Torsten > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:07:10 +0100 > Von: "Amine AZZI" <[hidden email]> > An: [hidden email] > Betreff: Re: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > > Torsten, > > > > If you look more closely to the Neogia Demo you'll find that the > > accounting, > > facility, and manufacturing modules are different from those of > > what I like the most in Neogia is their code generator which generates > > module's code from a UML model stored in XMI format. BTW, their modified > > modules are almost completely generated code. > > > > The mailing list for Neogia is [hidden email] > > > > Regards. > > Amine. > > > > 2007/4/3, Torsten Schlabach <[hidden email]>: > > > > > > Mridu! > > > > > > Do you really mean Neogia or do you mean Opentaps or do you mean > > > > > > I need to say when I briefly looked at Neogia I was somewhat confused > > > about two things: > > > > > > 1. How can something based on OFBiz be GPL? Aren't the Apache License > > and > > > GPL incompatible? > > > 2. When I was looking at a Neogia online demo, Opentaps came up, which I > > > understand is even more restrictively licensed. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Torsten > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > Datum: 3 Apr 2007 08:10:04 -0000 > > > Von: "Mridu Rajkhowa" <[hidden email]> > > > An: [hidden email], [hidden email] > > > Betreff: License in Neogia (OFBiz) > > > > > > > > > > > CollabCAD is a Java based distributed CAD/CAM Software System > > developed > > > by > > > > Computer Aided Design Group of National Informatics Centre, the > > > > Support professionals from India. CollabCAD is based on well proven > > Open > > > > domain technologies like Java, Java 3D, Java RMI, Open Cascade > > geometry > > > > kernel. CollabCAD supports open standards such as XML, STEP, IGES, > > VRML. > > > > You may visit our website (www.collabcad.com) > > > > > > > > CollabCAD has been integrated with Jakarta Slide, a content > > management > > > > system and Bonita, a Workflow Management System. > > > > > > > > We are interested in bundling Neogia (Ofbiz) with CollabCAD. We will > > not > > > > be making any changes in Neogia source code. > > > > > > > > Since Neogia is open software under the GNU General Public License > > > (GPL), > > > > we > > > > would like to confirm that we are permitted to distribute Neogia along > > > > with CollabCAD. At a later stage, if we do make some modifications we > > > are > > > > willing to publish them. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best regard > > > > mridu pobon > > > |
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