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License issue with iText 4.2.0

Scott Gray-3
Hi All,

I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and includes
iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You can
see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
+--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
|    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6

I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our code
and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but I
thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already looked
into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.

Regards
Scott
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Hi Scott,

Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText

<<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the Mozilla Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License> or
the GNU Library General Public License <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source licenses. However, as of version 5.0.0
(released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero General Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
3.>>

MPL being OK as binary

Jacques

Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :

> Hi All,
>
> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and includes
> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You can
> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>
> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our code
> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but I
> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already looked
> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi Scott,
>
> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
Here is another source for MPL licensing: https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/

> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the Mozilla Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
> or the GNU Library General Public License <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source licenses. However, as of version
> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero General Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
> version 3.>>
>
> MPL being OK as binary
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and includes
>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You can
>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>
>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our code
>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but I
>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already looked
>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate

-    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
+    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of license change

Jacques


Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
> Here is another source for MPL licensing: https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>
>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the Mozilla Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>> or the GNU Library General Public License <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source licenses. However, as of version
>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero General Public License
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version 3.>>
>>
>> MPL being OK as binary
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and includes
>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You can
>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>
>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our code
>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but I
>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already looked
>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Scott Gray-3
Hey Jacques,

Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
does it make sense?

Regards
Scott


On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>
> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
> license change
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
> > Here is another source for MPL licensing:
> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
> >
> >> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
> Mozilla Public License <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
> >> or the GNU Library General Public License <
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
> licenses. However, as of version
> >> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero General
> Public License
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
> 3.>>
> >>
> >> MPL being OK as binary
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
> includes
> >>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
> can
> >>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
> >>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
> >>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
> >>>
> >>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
> code
> >>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but
> I
> >>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
> looked
> >>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

taher
So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
works then we're fine.

Syntax:

compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
    exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
}

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hey Jacques,
>
> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
> does it make sense?
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
> >
> > -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
> > +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
> > license change
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > > Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > >> Hi Scott,
> > >>
> > >> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
> > > Here is another source for MPL licensing:
> > https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
> > >
> > >> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
> > Mozilla Public License <
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
> > >> or the GNU Library General Public License <
> > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
> > licenses. However, as of version
> > >> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
> General
> > Public License
> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
> > 3.>>
> > >>
> > >> MPL being OK as binary
> > >>
> > >> Jacques
> > >>
> > >> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
> > includes
> > >>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
> > can
> > >>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
> > >>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
> > >>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
> > >>>
> > >>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
> > code
> > >>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
> but
> > I
> > >>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
> > looked
> > >>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>> Scott
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
In reply to this post by Scott Gray-3
Oops you were clear, my bad.

That's indeed an issue and we can't force itext 4.2.0 to use another compatible itextpdf version.

Because itext 4.2.0 has a dependency on itextpdf from start and itextpdf is AGPL from start

https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext

https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.itextpdf/itextpdf

I suspect itext versions before 4.2.0 were not able of supporting PDF rendering

Now our dependency come out of Birt. So maybe we need to update Birt?

https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/ (and links there)

But that sounds not good https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5

Jacques


Le 08/06/2018 à 10:40, Scott Gray a écrit :

> Hey Jacques,
>
> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
> does it make sense?
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>
>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>> license change
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>> Mozilla Public License <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero General
>> Public License
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>> 3.>>
>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>> includes
>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
>> can
>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>> code
>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues, but
>> I
>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>> looked
>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
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Not sure,

At least I tried to create Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf with

compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of license change

and it works (empty):

2018-06-08 14:16:12,909 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |ScreenFactory                 |I| Got 8 screens in 0.006s from:
file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/widget/order/OrderScreens.xml
2018-06-08 14:16:12,953 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |UtilProperties                |I| ResourceBundle BirtUiLabels (fr) created in 0.044s with 54 properties
[...]
2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |RequestHandler                |I| Rendering View [Last3MonthsSalesReport].  Hidden sessionId by default.
2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtFactory                   |I| Got report in 0.0s from:
file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/webapp/ordermgr/reports/Last3MonthsSalesReport.rptdesign
2018-06-08 14:16:20,871 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Get report engine
2018-06-08 14:16:20,894 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Set BIRT locale:fr
2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| BIRT's locale is: fr
2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Run report's task
2018-06-08 14:16:27,483 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ServerHitBin                  |I| Visit delegatorName=default, ServerHitBin delegatorName=default
2018-06-08 14:16:27,486 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ControlServlet                |T| [[[Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf(Domain:https://localhost)] Request
Done- total:7.216,since last([Last3MonthsSales...):7.216]]

Did not try excluding itextpdf yet

Jacques


Le 08/06/2018 à 13:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
> works then we're fine.
>
> Syntax:
>
> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
> }
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jacques,
>>
>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
>> does it make sense?
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>
>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>> license change
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>> General
>>> Public License
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>>> 3.>>
>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>> includes
>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
>>> can
>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>>> code
>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>> but
>>> I
>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>> looked
>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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But the problem is still:

 >But that sounds not good https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5

and especially http://lowagie.com/iText (the original author) + http://lowagie.com/itext2016


Le 08/06/2018 à 14:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Not sure,
>
> At least I tried to create Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf with
>
> compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of license change
>
> and it works (empty):
>
> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,909 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |ScreenFactory                 |I| Got 8 screens in 0.006s from:
> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/widget/order/OrderScreens.xml
> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,953 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |UtilProperties                |I| ResourceBundle BirtUiLabels (fr) created in 0.044s with 54 properties
> [...]
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |RequestHandler                |I| Rendering View [Last3MonthsSalesReport].  Hidden sessionId by default.
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtFactory                   |I| Got report in 0.0s from:
> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/webapp/ordermgr/reports/Last3MonthsSalesReport.rptdesign
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,871 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Get report engine
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,894 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Set BIRT locale:fr
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| BIRT's locale is: fr
> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Run report's task
> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,483 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ServerHitBin                  |I| Visit delegatorName=default, ServerHitBin delegatorName=default
> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,486 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ControlServlet                |T| [[[Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf(Domain:https://localhost)] Request
> Done- total:7.216,since last([Last3MonthsSales...):7.216]]
>
> Did not try excluding itextpdf yet
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 13:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>> works then we're fine.
>>
>> Syntax:
>>
>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>> }
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>
>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
>>> does it make sense?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>
>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>> license change
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>> General
>>>> Public License
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>> includes
>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
>>>> can
>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>>>> code
>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>> but
>>>> I
>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>> looked
>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
One question though: do we need itext to render PDF with Birt? I did not test that...


Le 08/06/2018 à 14:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> But the problem is still:
>
> >But that sounds not good https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>
> and especially http://lowagie.com/iText (the original author) + http://lowagie.com/itext2016
>
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> Not sure,
>>
>> At least I tried to create Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf with
>>
>> compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of license change
>>
>> and it works (empty):
>>
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,909 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |ScreenFactory                 |I| Got 8 screens in 0.006s from:
>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/widget/order/OrderScreens.xml
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,953 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |UtilProperties                |I| ResourceBundle BirtUiLabels (fr) created in 0.044s with 54 properties
>> [...]
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |RequestHandler                |I| Rendering View [Last3MonthsSalesReport].  Hidden sessionId by
>> default.
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtFactory                   |I| Got report in 0.0s from:
>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/webapp/ordermgr/reports/Last3MonthsSalesReport.rptdesign
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,871 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Get report engine
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,894 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Set BIRT locale:fr
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| BIRT's locale is: fr
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Run report's task
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,483 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ServerHitBin                  |I| Visit delegatorName=default, ServerHitBin delegatorName=default
>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,486 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ControlServlet                |T| [[[Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf(Domain:https://localhost)] Request
>> Done- total:7.216,since last([Last3MonthsSales...):7.216]]
>>
>> Did not try excluding itextpdf yet
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 13:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>>> works then we're fine.
>>>
>>> Syntax:
>>>
>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>> }
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>
>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>>> license change
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>> General
>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Actually at least simple Birt PDF files (in ordermgr/control/OrderPurchaseReportOptions)  are rendered w/o itext.

I'll try later for more complex ones at birt/control/ListFlexibleReport

Jacques


Le 08/06/2018 à 14:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> One question though: do we need itext to render PDF with Birt? I did not test that...
>
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> But the problem is still:
>>
>> >But that sounds not good https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>>
>> and especially http://lowagie.com/iText (the original author) + http://lowagie.com/itext2016
>>
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> Not sure,
>>>
>>> At least I tried to create Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf with
>>>
>>> compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of license change
>>>
>>> and it works (empty):
>>>
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,909 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |ScreenFactory                 |I| Got 8 screens in 0.006s from:
>>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/widget/order/OrderScreens.xml
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,953 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |UtilProperties                |I| ResourceBundle BirtUiLabels (fr) created in 0.044s with 54
>>> properties
>>> [...]
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |RequestHandler                |I| Rendering View [Last3MonthsSalesReport].  Hidden sessionId by
>>> default.
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtFactory                   |I| Got report in 0.0s from:
>>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/webapp/ordermgr/reports/Last3MonthsSalesReport.rptdesign
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,871 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Get report engine
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,894 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Set BIRT locale:fr
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| BIRT's locale is: fr
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Run report's task
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,483 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ServerHitBin                  |I| Visit delegatorName=default, ServerHitBin delegatorName=default
>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,486 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ControlServlet                |T| [[[Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf(Domain:https://localhost)] Request
>>> Done- total:7.216,since last([Last3MonthsSales...):7.216]]
>>>
>>> Did not try excluding itextpdf yet
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 13:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>
>>>> Syntax:
>>>>
>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>> General
>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.  You
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>>> but
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 08/06/2018 à 15:14, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Actually at least simple Birt PDF files (in ordermgr/control/OrderPurchaseReportOptions)  are rendered w/o itext.
Note: of course I removed ALL itext files from Gradle cache
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Jacques Le Roux
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Flexible Birt reports works as well w/o itext.

Not sure though why itext is embedded in Birt and what for it's used

It seems used for digital signature and accessibility at least:

https://communities.opentext.com/forums/discussion/57615/birt-and-digital-signature

https://communities.opentext.com/forums/discussion/52337/how-do-you-create-an-accessible-pdf-report-with-birt

So maybe removing it will be sufficient OOTB...

Jacques


Le 08/06/2018 à 15:14, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Actually at least simple Birt PDF files (in ordermgr/control/OrderPurchaseReportOptions)  are rendered w/o itext.
>
> I'll try later for more complex ones at birt/control/ListFlexibleReport
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> One question though: do we need itext to render PDF with Birt? I did not test that...
>>
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> But the problem is still:
>>>
>>> >But that sounds not good https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>>>
>>> and especially http://lowagie.com/iText (the original author) + http://lowagie.com/itext2016
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 14:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>> Not sure,
>>>>
>>>> At least I tried to create Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf with
>>>>
>>>> compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of license change
>>>>
>>>> and it works (empty):
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,909 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |ScreenFactory                 |I| Got 8 screens in 0.006s from:
>>>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/widget/order/OrderScreens.xml
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:12,953 |jsse-nio-8443-exec-6 |UtilProperties                |I| ResourceBundle BirtUiLabels (fr) created in 0.044s with 54
>>>> properties
>>>> [...]
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |RequestHandler                |I| Rendering View [Last3MonthsSalesReport].  Hidden sessionId by
>>>> default.
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,335 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtFactory                   |I| Got report in 0.0s from:
>>>> file:/C:/projectsASF/ofbiz/plugins/birt/webapp/ordermgr/reports/Last3MonthsSalesReport.rptdesign
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,871 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Get report engine
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,894 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Set BIRT locale:fr
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| BIRT's locale is: fr
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:20,910 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |BirtWorker                    |I| Run report's task
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,483 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ServerHitBin                  |I| Visit delegatorName=default, ServerHitBin delegatorName=default
>>>> 2018-06-08 14:16:27,486 |sse-nio-8443-exec-10 |ControlServlet                |T| [[[Last3MonthsSalesReport.pdf(Domain:https://localhost)] Request
>>>> Done- total:7.216,since last([Last3MonthsSales...):7.216]]
>>>>
>>>> Did not try excluding itextpdf yet
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 13:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>
>>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of 4.2.0,
>>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version >= 5
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open source
>>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>>> General
>>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License> version
>>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed. You
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by our
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Scott Gray-3
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Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.

Regards
Scott

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
> works then we're fine.
>
> Syntax:
>
> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>     exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
> }
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Jacques,
> >
> > Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
> 4.2.0,
> > does it make sense?
> >
> > Regards
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
> > >
> > > -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
> > > +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
> > > license change
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > > > Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > > >> Hi Scott,
> > > >>
> > > >> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
> >= 5
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
> > > > Here is another source for MPL licensing:
> > > https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
> > > >
> > > >> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
> > > Mozilla Public License <
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
> > > >> or the GNU Library General Public License <
> > > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
> source
> > > licenses. However, as of version
> > > >> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
> > General
> > > Public License
> > > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
> version
> > > 3.>>
> > > >>
> > > >> MPL being OK as binary
> > > >>
> > > >> Jacques
> > > >>
> > > >> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
> > > >>> Hi All,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
> > > includes
> > > >>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
> You
> > > can
> > > >>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
> > > >>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
> > > >>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
> our
> > > code
> > > >>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
> > but
> > > I
> > > >>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
> > > looked
> > > >>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>> Scott
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?

It seems OK at https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0 (MPL)

But reading https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5 which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)

Maybe we should ask legal?

Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with Birt. Please confirm...

Jacques

Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :

> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>> works then we're fine.
>>
>> Syntax:
>>
>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>> }
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>
>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>> 4.2.0,
>>> does it make sense?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>
>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>> license change
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>> = 5
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>> source
>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>> General
>>>> Public License
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>> version
>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>> includes
>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>> You
>>>> can
>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>> our
>>>> code
>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>> but
>>>> I
>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>> looked
>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 08/06/2018 à 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?
>
> It seems OK at https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0 (MPL)
>
> But reading https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5 which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
> iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)
>
> Maybe we should ask legal?
>
> Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with Birt. Please confirm...

Did someone else tests?
Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files I believe it should work for
everyone else. Please confirm, should I open a Jira now?

Now if users are of need of itext for other reasons (I found a couple of them Googling) they should take their responsibility. What are other opinions
here?

Jacques

>
> Jacques
>
> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :
>> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if everything
>>> works then we're fine.
>>>
>>> Syntax:
>>>
>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>> }
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>>> 4.2.0,
>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux, <[hidden email]
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>
>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because of
>>>>> license change
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>>> = 5
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>>> source
>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>> General
>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>>> version
>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>>> You
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>>> our
>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

taher
I'm a bit lost. What are you _exactly_ proposing to do here? Are you
suggesting my exclusion syntax above (BTW better remove the version),
or are you suggesting something else?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>> Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?
>>
>> It seems OK at https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0
>> (MPL)
>>
>> But reading https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>> which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
>> iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext
>> seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)
>>
>> Maybe we should ask legal?
>>
>> Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
>> Birt. Please confirm...
>
>
> Did someone else tests?
> Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after
> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files I believe it should work for
> everyone else. Please confirm, should I open a Jira now?
>
> Now if users are of need of itext for other reasons (I found a couple of
> them Googling) they should take their responsibility. What are other
> opinions here?
>
> Jacques
>
>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if
>>>> everything
>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>
>>>> Syntax:
>>>>
>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>      exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.0,
>>>>>
>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux,
>>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>>>>
>>>>> = 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>>>>
>>>> source
>>>>>>
>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>>
>>>>> General
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>>>>
>>>> version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>>>>
>>>> You
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>>>>
>>>> our
>>>>>>
>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>>>
>>>>> but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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No, I'm suggesting to drop itext as a whole, not only itextpdf.

Is it so difficult to read me :-o ?

I 1st spoke about "itext/4.2.0" (not itextpdf at all). Then I suggested to remove "it".

<<Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
Birt. Please confirm...>>

I believe (it's no clear from Birt side) itext is something we drag from the 1st contribution of Birt in OFBiz. And Birt is now able to render PDF w/o itext.
In some edge cases (at least: digital signature[1], 4 bytes UTF-8[2]) users would still need to use itext. See my previous last message for other details:
<<Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files>>

Jacques

[1] https://s.apache.org/b2sQ

[2] https://s.apache.org/Ib78


Le 11/06/2018 à 16:37, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> I'm a bit lost. What are you _exactly_ proposing to do here? Are you
> suggesting my exclusion syntax above (BTW better remove the version),
> or are you suggesting something else?
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?
>>>
>>> It seems OK at https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0
>>> (MPL)
>>>
>>> But reading https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>>> which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
>>> iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext
>>> seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)
>>>
>>> Maybe we should ask legal?
>>>
>>> Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
>>> Birt. Please confirm...
>>
>> Did someone else tests?
>> Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after
>> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files I believe it should work for
>> everyone else. Please confirm, should I open a Jira now?
>>
>> Now if users are of need of itext for other reasons (I found a couple of
>> them Googling) they should take their responsibility. What are other
>> opinions here?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if
>>>>> everything
>>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>
>>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>>       exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>>>>> 4.2.0,
>>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux,
>>>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>>>>> = 5
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under the
>>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>>>>> source
>>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>>> General
>>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>>>>> version
>>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>>>>> You
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>>>>> our
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing issues,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has already
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>

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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

taher
There are 18 emails so far in this thread of which 13 are yours.

- You mentioned stuff from wikipedia
- then you mentioned stuff about licensing
- then you switched to birt
- then you talked about the author
- then you go back to questioning how to render PDFs in BIRT
- then you talk about your test logs for PDF rendering in BIRT (or
something like that)
- then you talk about the gradle cache
- then you talk about digital signatures
- then you talk about discussing things with apache legal
- then you ask people for their opinion
- then you go back to BIRT

So to answer your question, YES, it's very hard to read you :) Many of
your emails are long with lots of URLs and jump around multiple
topics. I personally cannot keep up, and that's why when you present a
question to the community, I have to ask you to pin down exactly what
you want.

Now back to this thread: I'm always in favor of completely removing
libraries where possible. This means refactoring CompDocServices.java
and PdfSurveyServices.java. I'm not sure how much work would that be,
but if it is a lot of work, then the work that I proposed might be a
quick fix for now (exclusion in gradle).

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Jacques Le Roux
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> No, I'm suggesting to drop itext as a whole, not only itextpdf.
>
> Is it so difficult to read me :-o ?
>
> I 1st spoke about "itext/4.2.0" (not itextpdf at all). Then I suggested to
> remove "it".
>
> <<Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
> Birt. Please confirm...>>
>
> I believe (it's no clear from Birt side) itext is something we drag from the
> 1st contribution of Birt in OFBiz. And Birt is now able to render PDF w/o
> itext.
> In some edge cases (at least: digital signature[1], 4 bytes UTF-8[2]) users
> would still need to use itext. See my previous last message for other
> details:
> <<Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after
> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files>>
>
> Jacques
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/b2sQ
>
> [2] https://s.apache.org/Ib78
>
>
>
> Le 11/06/2018 à 16:37, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>
>> I'm a bit lost. What are you _exactly_ proposing to do here? Are you
>> suggesting my exclusion syntax above (BTW better remove the version),
>> or are you suggesting something else?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?
>>>>
>>>> It seems OK at
>>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0
>>>> (MPL)
>>>>
>>>> But reading
>>>> https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>>>> which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
>>>> iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext
>>>> seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we should ask legal?
>>>>
>>>> Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
>>>> Birt. Please confirm...
>>>
>>>
>>> Did someone else tests?
>>> Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out
>>> after
>>> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files I believe it should work
>>> for
>>> everyone else. Please confirm, should I open a Jira now?
>>>
>>> Now if users are of need of itext for other reasons (I found a couple of
>>> them Googling) they should take their responsibility. What are other
>>> opinions here?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>>>       exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray
>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4.2.0,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux,
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = 5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>>>>>>
>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> General
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing
>>>>>>>>>>> issues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has
>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an
>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
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Re: License issue with iText 4.2.0

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 11/06/2018 à 20:31, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> There are 18 emails so far in this thread of which 13 are yours.
>
> - You mentioned stuff from wikipedia
> - then you mentioned stuff about licensing
> - then you switched to birt
> - then you talked about the author
> - then you go back to questioning how to render PDFs in BIRT
> - then you talk about your test logs for PDF rendering in BIRT (or
> something like that)
> - then you talk about the gradle cache
> - then you talk about digital signatures
> - then you talk about discussing things with apache legal
> - then you ask people for their opinion
> - then you go back to BIRT
>
> So to answer your question, YES, it's very hard to read you :) Many of
> your emails are long with lots of URLs and jump around multiple
> topics. I personally cannot keep up, and that's why when you present a
> question to the community, I have to ask you to pin down exactly what
> you want.
Yes legal question matters and are often a delicate matter to handle. So I ferreted around for clues and reported what I found while doing it.
I agree it's maybe not the best way to interact with the ML. I was unsure of the facts, so shared to hopefully get some help from the ML.
I'll now try to summarize in this message

>
> Now back to this thread: I'm always in favor of completely removing
> libraries where possible. This means refactoring CompDocServices.java
> and PdfSurveyServices.java. I'm not sure how much work would that be,
> but if it is a lot of work, then the work that I proposed might be a
> quick fix for now (exclusion in gradle).
At 1st glance your idea seems the best quick solution. But if you read my messages you will see that even using itext 4.2.0 is legally not a good idea.
So while ferreting around I found that I was able to comment it out also in Gradle build: "//compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'"
I mean doing so does not prevent Birt to render PDF files. So I wondered why and finally found that the version com.lowagie.text 2.1.7, *which has no
legal issues*, is embedded in org.eclipse.birt.runtime.3_7_1
You may find it in your cache, for me it's in Z:\Gradle\caches\modules-2\metadata-2.16\descriptors\org.eclipse.birt.runtime.3_7_1\com.lowagie.text

So if you remove all itext related files in your Gradle cache you will still have lowagie files, for me it's at
Z:\Gradle\caches\modules-2\files-2.1\org.eclipse.birt.runtime.3_7_1\com.lowagie.text\2.1.7\18d4c7c2014447eacfd00c65c717b3cfc422407b\com.lowagie.text-2.1.7.jar
When I look for source this is also what Eclipse reports.

So I believe we can get rid of "compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'" and Birt continues to work and render PDFs. For advanced features, users need to
buy a commercial version of itext.

For me that seems the best OOTB solution. I hope this is clear enough, else please ask :)

Jacques


>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Jacques Le Roux
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> No, I'm suggesting to drop itext as a whole, not only itextpdf.
>>
>> Is it so difficult to read me :-o ?
>>
>> I 1st spoke about "itext/4.2.0" (not itextpdf at all). Then I suggested to
>> remove "it".
>>
>> <<Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
>> Birt. Please confirm...>>
>>
>> I believe (it's no clear from Birt side) itext is something we drag from the
>> 1st contribution of Birt in OFBiz. And Birt is now able to render PDF w/o
>> itext.
>> In some edge cases (at least: digital signature[1], 4 bytes UTF-8[2]) users
>> would still need to use itext. See my previous last message for other
>> details:
>> <<Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out after
>> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files>>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> [1] https://s.apache.org/b2sQ
>>
>> [2] https://s.apache.org/Ib78
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 11/06/2018 à 16:37, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>> I'm a bit lost. What are you _exactly_ proposing to do here? Are you
>>> suggesting my exclusion syntax above (BTW better remove the version),
>>> or are you suggesting something else?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>> Are we sure there are no legal issues doing so?
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems OK at
>>>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.lowagie/itext/4.2.0
>>>>> (MPL)
>>>>>
>>>>> But reading
>>>>> https://developers.itextpdf.com/question/versions-older-than-5
>>>>> which applies also to 4.2.0 (see bottom "Some people claim that they use
>>>>> iText 4.2.0, but that version has never been officially released") itext
>>>>> seems a legal issue globally (not only itextpdf)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should ask legal?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also from few tests I did, it seems we don't need it to render PDF with
>>>>> Birt. Please confirm...
>>>>
>>>> Did someone else tests?
>>>> Since it works for me w/  "compile 'com.lowagie:itext" commented out
>>>> after
>>>> clearing the Gradle cache from all itext files I believe it should work
>>>> for
>>>> everyone else. Please confirm, should I open a Jira now?
>>>>
>>>> Now if users are of need of itext for other reasons (I found a couple of
>>>> them Googling) they should take their responsibility. What are other
>>>> opinions here?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 16:03, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>> Thanks Taher! Perfect simple solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 23:19 Taher Alkhateeb, <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we exclude the transitive dependency in build.gradle and if
>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>> works then we're fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> compile('com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0') {
>>>>>>>        exclude 'com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6'
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:40 AM Scott Gray
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Jacques,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear, OFBiz is downloading 5.5.6 as a dependency of
>>>>>>> 4.2.0,
>>>>>>>> does it make sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018, 19:30 Jacques Le Roux,
>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suggest this comment, a Jira seems appropriate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>>>>>>>>> +    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0' // don't update to 5+ because
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> license change
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:26, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 09:24, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reading Wikipedia It's OK as long as we don't update to a version
>>>>>>>> = 5
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText
>>>>>>>>>> Here is another source for MPL licensing:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/175386/
>>>>>>>>>>> <<The source code was initially distributed as open source under
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Mozilla Public License <
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License>
>>>>>>>>>>> or the GNU Library General Public License <
>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.en.html> open
>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>> licenses. However, as of version
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.0.0 (released Dec 7, 2009) it is distributed under the Affero
>>>>>>>> General
>>>>>>>>> Public License
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> 3.>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MPL being OK as binary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 08/06/2018 à 03:57, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that the iText maven bundle is a bit tricksy and
>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>> iText 5.6.6 as a dependency, with the latter being GPL licensed.
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> see it by running "./gradlew -q dependencies":
>>>>>>>>>>>> +--- com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> |    \--- com.itextpdf:itextpdf:5.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked to see if the later version is actually used by
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure if merely downloading it causes licensing
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought I'd bring the question here in case anyone else has
>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>>>> into it.  Not sure what the work-around would be if it is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>

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