[MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website

[Sharan-F]

Hi All

I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that it would be good to update it.

Here are some of my initial thoughts

1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down navigation bar to give us more space
3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for visitors to see what is important
4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?) without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a blog feed instead.

What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may have.

If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do the changeover.

Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking for some volunteers to help me put this together.

Thanks
Sharan

[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

Hi Sharan,

+1 on all points, with the following additional comments:

On May 26, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area

+1
We could also improve the quality/resolution of the current logo.

> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space

Or moved to a secondary page; but please consider that the links under "Apache Software Foundation" are requested by the ASF; or at least were requested and before moving them in a less prominent position we should check with the ASF.

> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.

We can keep the links to one and then move the others to a less prominent place/page.

>  
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.

+1

Jacopo

>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[JulienNicolas]

Le 26/05/2015 10:09, Sharan-F a écrit :

> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area

+1
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
+1
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
We can keep all that words but highlight some of them.
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
If we use One page design for the main page, we can create section that
can be used to highlight each flavour of OFBiz (framework, ERP, e-Commerce).
Then we may redirect to a specific page that can contain details.

> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
+1 (but it MUST be easy to find the download link)
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
It's normal. You can choose to fill the screen but in this way it's more
difficult to be sure that the design works with all screen resolutions...
Except in some specific case but it's better to keep this :)
If you have some counter-examples to show want you imagine, just share it :)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
+1. It could be enough to have the last stable version in demo (and
easiest for maintenance)
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
+1

>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.

I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to
help you :)
In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
Is it OFBiz ?

Julien.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
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[Jacopo Cappellato-5]

On May 26, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Julien NICOLAS <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to help you :)
> In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
> Is it OFBiz ?

Julien, are you asking how/where the source files for the website are stored?
They are just static html pages and you can check them out from here:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site

(you can use https with your committer's account).

You will find more information here: http://ofbiz.apache.org/source-repositories.html

I hope it helps,

Jacopo

[JulienNicolas]

Le 26/05/2015 11:01, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

> On May 26, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Julien NICOLAS <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to help you :)
>> In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
>> Is it OFBiz ?
> Julien, are you asking how/where the source files for the website are stored?
> They are just static html pages and you can check them out from here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site
>
> (you can use https with your committer's account).
>
> You will find more information here: http://ofbiz.apache.org/source-repositories.html
>
> I hope it helps,

Perfect !

Thank you Jacopo :)

Julien
>
> Jacopo
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

Hi Sharan,

thanks for driving this forward! See my comments inline.

Regards,

Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de

Am 26.05.15 um 10:09 schrieb Sharan-F:

> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area

+1
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links into
a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the dropdown
to see what's in it. Do we need more space?
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
I think the problem is not the number of words, which are not bad for
SEO, but the structure of the texts. We could restructure them to have
some kind of landing page for different subjects and related sub pages
with more detailed texts on the subject.
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
Yes, a first step could be to identify user groups, their use of OFBiz
and maybe some different uses cases.
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it
should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors,
smartphones etc.)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user
login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo page"
on the website where the demo is explained.
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
+1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
Overall, a +1 from me.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help on
this when we have the requirements clear.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Adrian Crum-3]

+1

I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service
providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from
end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.

So, the main landing page would have something like:

If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.

If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 26/05/2015 10:43, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>> >2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> >navigation bar to give us more space
> Or moved to a secondary page; but please consider that the links under "Apache Software Foundation" are requested by the ASF; or at least were requested and before moving them in a less prominent position we should check with the ASF.
>
I read again about that recently, it's still requested, could be on another page than main but would need to be a prominent one, I suggest to keep
them there as is

Jacques

[Jacques Le Roux]

Inline, I answer only when I have something to say (else rather OK)

Le 26/05/2015 11:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> navigation bar to give us more space
> Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links into a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the dropdown to
> see what's in it. Do we need more space?

I agree about not using dropdowns for links

> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors, smartphones
> etc.)

+1 on responsive website!

>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
> We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo page" on the
> website where the demo is explained.

They are integrated as URL parameters, it's even easier for users. I don't think they need to know the demo credential. Explanation about the demo
would be good indeed.

>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>> blog feed instead.
> +1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.

Agreed

>>
>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>> have.
>>
>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>> the changeover.
> Overall, a +1 from me.
>>
>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
> Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help on this when we have the requirements clear.

If Julien is also working on it you will need to sync and... ask for feedback regularly...

Thanks for your effort!

Jacques

>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :

> +1
>
> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from end-user
> sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.
>
> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>
> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>
> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.

I like the idea

Jacques

>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
>> it would be good to update it.
>>
>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>
>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> navigation bar to give us more space
>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
>> visitors to see what is important
>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>> blog feed instead.
>>
>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>> have.
>>
>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>> the changeover.
>>
>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>

[JulienNicolas]

Le 26/05/2015 16:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Inline, I answer only when I have something to say (else rather OK)
>
> Le 26/05/2015 11:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a
>> drop down
>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>> Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links
>> into a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the
>> dropdown to see what's in it. Do we need more space?
>
> I agree about not using dropdowns for links
>
>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz
>> (yet why
>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the
>>> screen
>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>> We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it
>> should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors,
>> smartphones etc.)
>
> +1 on responsive website!
>
>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If
>>> for some
>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in
>>> again.
>> We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user
>> login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo
>> page" on the website where the demo is explained.
>
> They are integrated as URL parameters, it's even easier for users. I
> don't think they need to know the demo credential. Explanation about
> the demo would be good indeed.
>
>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly.
>>> We have
>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this
>>> with a
>>> blog feed instead.
>> +1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.
>
> Agreed
>
>>>
>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>> have.
>>>
>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft
>>> website
>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will
>>> we do
>>> the changeover.
>> Overall, a +1 from me.
>>>
>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be
>>> looking
>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>> Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help
>> on this when we have the requirements clear.
>
> If Julien is also working on it you will need to sync and... ask for
> feedback regularly...

Yes, for now it's just to see actual website, not to commit :)
But as soon as we can work on the new one, we need to define how to work
together.

Julien.

>
> Thanks for your effort!
>
> Jacques
>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>

[Sharan-F]

Thank you everyone for your responses, support and ideas so far.

I've done some follow up based on Jacopo's query about ASF guidelines for project websites and whatever we do needs to conform to the following.

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#navigation

Thanks
Sharan

[Gil Portenseigne]

On 26/05/2015 16:56, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>> +1
>>
>> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service
>> providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to
>> from end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user
>> announcements etc.
>>
>> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>>
>> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>
>> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>
> I like the idea
>
> Jacques

+1

An end user space with very marketing oriented data could be great. In
an end user point of view i found current website not very attractive.

The idea expressed in the thread of doing a WebResponsive design is nice !

I'd be glad to help.

Gil

>
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main
>>> project
>>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I
>>> think that
>>> it would be good to update it.
>>>
>>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>>
>>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at
>>> the top so
>>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a
>>> drop down
>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it
>>> hard for
>>> visitors to see what is important
>>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what
>>> would
>>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz
>>> (yet why
>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the
>>> screen
>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If
>>> for some
>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in
>>> again.
>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly.
>>> We have
>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this
>>> with a
>>> blog feed instead.
>>>
>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>> have.
>>>
>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft
>>> website
>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will
>>> we do
>>> the changeover.
>>>
>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be
>>> looking
>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

We should take more care of Openhub http://www.networkworld.com/article/2926175/opensource-subnet/open-hub-how-to-find-the-best-open-source-projects.html
Try https://www.openhub.net/p?query=ERP&sort=users and other things (like other sortings and compare).

We should get rid of Dockook also, people might think we use XSL instead of Groovy because of it https://www.openhub.net/p/Apache-OFBiz

Jjacques


Le 26/05/2015 17:32, gil portenseigne a écrit :

>
> On 26/05/2015 16:56, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from
>>> end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.
>>>
>>> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>>>
>>> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>>
>>> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>
>> I like the idea
>>
>> Jacques
> +1
>
> An end user space with very marketing oriented data could be great. In an end user point of view i found current website not very attractive.
>
> The idea expressed in the thread of doing a WebResponsive design is nice !
>
> I'd be glad to help.
>
> Gil
>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum
>>> Sandglass Software
>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>
>>> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
>>>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
>>>> it would be good to update it.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>>>
>>>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
>>>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>>>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>>>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
>>>> visitors to see what is important
>>>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>>>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
>>>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>>>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
>>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>>>> blog feed instead.
>>>>
>>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>>>> the changeover.
>>>>
>>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sharan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>

[Sharan-F]

Hi All

Thanks for the feedback.

Next Steps

-  I will create a wiki page to capture the requirements we have so far. (please feel free to add any comments to page once created)
-  We will then see if we have enough information to begin looking at the approach and outline planning around how it could be done.

Thanks
Sharan

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 26/05/2015 21:11, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> We should take more care of Openhub
> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2926175/opensource-subnet/open-hub-how-to-find-the-best-open-source-projects.html
> Try https://www.openhub.net/p?query=ERP&sort=users and other things (like other sortings and compare).
>
> We should get rid of Dockook also, people might think we use XSL instead of Groovy because of it https://www.openhub.net/p/Apache-OFBiz

This is not a good reason, moreover now that I have cleaned the way OpenHub sees OFBiz repo, with more reality by excluding most externals misleading
things from its parser

Jacques

>
> Jacques

[Sharan-F]

Hi All

I've put together a summary of some initial requirements on the wiki here

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements

Do we have enough information to start putiting together an outline plan of what needs to be done?  If not then please feel free to highlight what additional items are missing or needed.

Thanks
Sharan

[Sharan-F]

Hi All

Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?

Thanks
Sharan

[Pierre Smits]

Great idea!

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
> examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990p4671121.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

Hi Sharan,

I would like to help you on this task.

I'll put some ideas together in the next couple of days and post it
here, or do you have other plans to organize this?

Regards,

Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de


Am 28.07.15 um 09:06 schrieb Sharan-F:
> Hi All
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>