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Lindsey L.
Hello,

I have a promotion scenario that I have not been able to create and I was hoping I could get some direction.

My scenario is not necessarily quantity-based, but instead is based on the actual products chosen.  Here is what I am trying to accomplish:

Category X contains about 100 products.  I want a customer to be able to go in and select any quantity of any one product within that category and then get 15% off the second product they select within that category, no matter what the quantity.

For instance:
   Product A = $10.00
   Product B = $10.00

Order:  (30) Product A = $300.00
          (20) Product B = $200.00 - 15% = $170

The difficulty here is that Product A and Product B can be any product in Category X and they can be in any quantity, so I can't restrict the amount or the quantity of the product to any one figure.  The problem I am seeing is that the 15% is being taken off all products, since the same category is listed as a Conditions category and an Actions category.  All products end up being both a qualifier and a benefit.  Is there a way to restrict the first product chosen as the qualifier from also being a benefit?

It may be a long shot, but is there any way that this scenario is feasible within the OFBiz Promotion structure?

Please let me know if I need to clarify further.

Thanks for the help!
Lindsey
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Re: Need direction in setting up a Promotion

David E Jones

How is your promotion setup? Which version/revision of OFBiz are you  
using?

In general no item-quantity should be allowed to be a qualifier and a  
beneficiary at the same time, they are meant to be mutually exclusive.  
If it is really doing what you describe then it is probably a bug.

The best example of how to set this up is in the demo data with the  
buy x get y for z% off.

-David


On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Lindsey L. wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I have a promotion scenario that I have not been able to create and  
> I was
> hoping I could get some direction.
>
> My scenario is not necessarily quantity-based, but instead is based  
> on the
> actual products chosen.  Here is what I am trying to accomplish:
>
> Category X contains about 100 products.  I want a customer to be  
> able to go
> in and select any quantity of any one product within that category  
> and then
> get 15% off the second product they select within that category, no  
> matter
> what the quantity.
>
> For instance:
>   Product A = $10.00
>   Product B = $10.00
>
> Order:  (30) Product A = $300.00
>          (20) Product B = $200.00 - 15% = $170
>
> The difficulty here is that Product A and Product B can be any  
> product in
> Category X and they can be in any quantity, so I can't restrict the  
> amount
> or the quantity of the product to any one figure.  The problem I am  
> seeing
> is that the 15% is being taken off all products, since the same  
> category is
> listed as a Conditions category and an Actions category.  All  
> products end
> up being both a qualifier and a benefit.  Is there a way to restrict  
> the
> first product chosen as the qualifier from also being a benefit?
>
> It may be a long shot, but is there any way that this scenario is  
> feasible
> within the OFBiz Promotion structure?
>
> Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Lindsey
>
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>


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Re: Need direction in setting up a Promotion

Lindsey L.
Hi David,

I believe the version we are running is 2.0.

The way I have the promotion set up is similar to the "Buy X get Y for Z% off" model.  In the conditions section, I have Total Amount of Product is greater than or equal to 1 with a conditions category of Promo Category X.  In the Actions section, I have X Product for Y% Discount, Quantity=null, Amount=15, Actions Category= Promo Category X.  

When I add Products A and B to my cart, they both get 15% off.  It looks like Product A is the qualifier for Product B to get the benefit, and then Product B is identified as a qualifier for Product A to get the benefit.  I tried limiting the use of promo per customer, per order, per code, etc, but that ends up limiting the quantity of the product getting 15% off, instead of limiting the applied discount to that particular product's sub-total.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help!
Lindsey


David E Jones wrote
How is your promotion setup? Which version/revision of OFBiz are you  
using?

In general no item-quantity should be allowed to be a qualifier and a  
beneficiary at the same time, they are meant to be mutually exclusive.  
If it is really doing what you describe then it is probably a bug.

The best example of how to set this up is in the demo data with the  
buy x get y for z% off.

-David


On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Lindsey L. wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I have a promotion scenario that I have not been able to create and  
> I was
> hoping I could get some direction.
>
> My scenario is not necessarily quantity-based, but instead is based  
> on the
> actual products chosen.  Here is what I am trying to accomplish:
>
> Category X contains about 100 products.  I want a customer to be  
> able to go
> in and select any quantity of any one product within that category  
> and then
> get 15% off the second product they select within that category, no  
> matter
> what the quantity.
>
> For instance:
>   Product A = $10.00
>   Product B = $10.00
>
> Order:  (30) Product A = $300.00
>          (20) Product B = $200.00 - 15% = $170
>
> The difficulty here is that Product A and Product B can be any  
> product in
> Category X and they can be in any quantity, so I can't restrict the  
> amount
> or the quantity of the product to any one figure.  The problem I am  
> seeing
> is that the 15% is being taken off all products, since the same  
> category is
> listed as a Conditions category and an Actions category.  All  
> products end
> up being both a qualifier and a benefit.  Is there a way to restrict  
> the
> first product chosen as the qualifier from also being a benefit?
>
> It may be a long shot, but is there any way that this scenario is  
> feasible
> within the OFBiz Promotion structure?
>
> Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Lindsey
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Need-direction-in-setting-up-a-Promotion-tf4823917.html#a13801636
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


 
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Re: Need direction in setting up a Promotion

David E Jones

Wow! OFBiz 2.0...

I don't even know what to say about that, except that it sounds like a  
bug that was probably fixed around 3 years ago or so.

I'm not sure the best way to resolve this, but updating to at least  
the 4.0 branch would the best way to go. Short of that you could hire  
someone to fix it in your code base.

-David


On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Lindsey L. wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I believe the version we are running is 2.0.
>
> The way I have the promotion set up is similar to the "Buy X get Y  
> for Z%
> off" model.  In the conditions section, I have Total Amount of  
> Product is
> greater than or equal to 1 with a conditions category of Promo  
> Category X.
> In the Actions section, I have X Product for Y% Discount,  
> Quantity=null,
> Amount=15, Actions Category= Promo Category X.
>
> When I add Products A and B to my cart, they both get 15% off.  It  
> looks
> like Product A is the qualifier for Product B to get the benefit,  
> and then
> Product B is identified as a qualifier for Product A to get the  
> benefit.  I
> tried limiting the use of promo per customer, per order, per code,  
> etc, but
> that ends up limiting the quantity of the product getting 15% off,  
> instead
> of limiting the applied discount to that particular product's sub-
> total.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your help!
> Lindsey
>
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>> How is your promotion setup? Which version/revision of OFBiz are you
>> using?
>>
>> In general no item-quantity should be allowed to be a qualifier and a
>> beneficiary at the same time, they are meant to be mutually  
>> exclusive.
>> If it is really doing what you describe then it is probably a bug.
>>
>> The best example of how to set this up is in the demo data with the
>> buy x get y for z% off.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Lindsey L. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a promotion scenario that I have not been able to create and
>>> I was
>>> hoping I could get some direction.
>>>
>>> My scenario is not necessarily quantity-based, but instead is based
>>> on the
>>> actual products chosen.  Here is what I am trying to accomplish:
>>>
>>> Category X contains about 100 products.  I want a customer to be
>>> able to go
>>> in and select any quantity of any one product within that category
>>> and then
>>> get 15% off the second product they select within that category, no
>>> matter
>>> what the quantity.
>>>
>>> For instance:
>>>  Product A = $10.00
>>>  Product B = $10.00
>>>
>>> Order:  (30) Product A = $300.00
>>>         (20) Product B = $200.00 - 15% = $170
>>>
>>> The difficulty here is that Product A and Product B can be any
>>> product in
>>> Category X and they can be in any quantity, so I can't restrict the
>>> amount
>>> or the quantity of the product to any one figure.  The problem I am
>>> seeing
>>> is that the 15% is being taken off all products, since the same
>>> category is
>>> listed as a Conditions category and an Actions category.  All
>>> products end
>>> up being both a qualifier and a benefit.  Is there a way to restrict
>>> the
>>> first product chosen as the qualifier from also being a benefit?
>>>
>>> It may be a long shot, but is there any way that this scenario is
>>> feasible
>>> within the OFBiz Promotion structure?
>>>
>>> Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>> Lindsey
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Need-direction-in-setting-up-a-Promotion-tf4823917.html#a13801636
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Need-direction-in-setting-up-a-Promotion-tf4823917.html#a13838042
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


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