Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hello Anil: > > How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: > > > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. > has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and > interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially > release it) > > > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of > the trunk > > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also > code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) > > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not > true? > > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk > > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are > applied to the release and the trunk? > > The main cons of this situations are the following: > > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that > we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: > the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing > channel represented by a new release > > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is > slowing improving if they just get the releases > > For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. > > Regards, > Ruth > > > Anil Patel wrote: >> Ruth, >> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >> >>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>> >>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >> >> smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release
strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created. The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing in the release. If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which has remained unchanged for years. I hope that helps. -Adrian Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug > fixes in Release 9.04? > Regards, > Ruth > > David E Jones wrote: >> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real >> testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without >> worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other >> conflicting priorities. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >> >> >>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch >>>> - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>> strategy. >>>> >>>> -Adrian >>>> >>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize >>>>> ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>> create >>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>> that? >>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be >>>>>>>>> taken >>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another >>>>>>>>>> release, but >>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> > |
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Hi Tim:
I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. Regards, Ruth Tim Ruppert wrote: > Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. > > So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... > > Cheers, > Ruppert > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > > >> Hello Anil: >> >> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >> >> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >> release it) >> >> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >> the trunk >> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >> true? >> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >> applied to the release and the trunk? >> > The main cons of this situations are the following: >> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >> channel represented by a new release >> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >> slowing improving if they just get the releases >> >> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> >> >> Anil Patel wrote: >> >>> Ruth, >>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > > |
In reply to this post by Adrian Crum
Hi Adrian:
With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see yourselves the way the rest of the world does. I think I've said enough. Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings. Regards, Ruth Adrian Crum wrote: > I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release > strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to > stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created. > > The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a > release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing > in the release. > > If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some > members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which > has remained unchanged for years. > > I hope that helps. > > -Adrian > > Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >> Regards, >> Ruth >> >> David E Jones wrote: >>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>> any other conflicting priorities. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> Anil Patel >>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>> strategy. >>>>> >>>>> -Adrian >>>>> >>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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If one follows the dev and commits, you will see that patches that fixed
bugs in trunk were, when plausible, back ported to 9.04 Also bugs fixes were put in 9.04 all you have to do is look at 9.04 history. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772899 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772835 as a matter of fact here is one for 4.0 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=666828 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=602587 if you keep a history of the commits you can find these. or just search the commits archive for 09.04 Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:08 PM: > Hello Anil: > > How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated > Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: > > > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. > has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and > interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially > release it) > > > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of > the trunk > > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also > code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) > > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is > this not > true? > > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk > > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug > fixes are > applied to the release and the trunk? > > The main cons of this situations are the following: > > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that > we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: > the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing > channel represented by a new release > > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is > slowing improving if they just get the releases > > For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll > give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug > fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) > is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. > > Regards, > Ruth > > > Anil Patel wrote: >> Ruth, >> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put >> that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >> >>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >>> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>> >>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>>> any other conflicting priorities. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>>> strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > |
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Your approach reminds me of conspiracy theorists: When faced with
overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they continue to believe in their conspiracies. If thinking that way makes you happy, then so be it. -Adrian Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Adrian: > > With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions > you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just > confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see > yourselves the way the rest of the world does. > > I think I've said enough. > > Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings. > > Regards, > Ruth > > Adrian Crum wrote: >> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release >> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to >> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created. >> >> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a >> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing >> in the release. >> >> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some >> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which >> has remained unchanged for years. >> >> I hope that helps. >> >> -Adrian >> >> Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >>> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>>> any other conflicting priorities. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>>> strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
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Thanks BJ - having the real information is always helpful
Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:47 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > If one follows the dev and commits, you will see that patches that fixed > bugs in trunk were, when plausible, back ported to 9.04 > Also bugs fixes were put in 9.04 all you have to do is look at 9.04 history. > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772899 > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772835 > as a matter of fact here is one for 4.0 > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=666828 > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=602587 > > if you keep a history of the commits you can find these. > or just search the commits archive for 09.04 > > > Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:08 PM: >> Hello Anil: >> >> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated >> Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >> >>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >> release it) >> >>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >> the trunk >>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is >> this not >> true? >>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug >> fixes are >> applied to the release and the trunk? >>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >> channel represented by a new release >>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >> slowing improving if they just get the releases >> >> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll >> give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug >> fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) >> is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> >> >> Anil Patel wrote: >>> Ruth, >>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put >>> that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >>>> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>>>> any other conflicting priorities. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>>>> strategy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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I partially agree with your ruth.
before 4.0 was release I stopped the trunk and made my own. I worked at testing and stablialising. the problem was there was no way to feed this back to the community because the trunk had advance to the ponit my fixes would not work. Now we have branches. the idea is for those that want something bug free to test it and get the bugs out. it is stable only in that fact new code is not added to it. It is bug free only to the level that it is tested and bugs reported. the developers are not interested in testing. even in big corporations like Boeing and Microsoft Testing is a whole different department. I have been involved with both. I believe what you wish is for a "finished" product. That will never be Ofbiz, IMHO. Your right in that this is a product for a Developer to take and make something of, not of a end user to take and use. Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:43 PM: > Hi Adrian: > > With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions > you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just > confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see > yourselves the way the rest of the world does. > > I think I've said enough. > > Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings. > > Regards, > Ruth > > Adrian Crum wrote: >> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release >> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to >> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created. >> >> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a >> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing >> in the release. >> >> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some >> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which >> has remained unchanged for years. >> >> I hope that helps. >> >> -Adrian >> >> Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >>> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>>> any other conflicting priorities. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>>> strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
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In what way? I think this is totally consistent with the Release Plan document, but maybe you're seeing something I'm not? -David On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? > Regards, > Ruth > > David E Jones wrote: >> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >> >> >>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>> >>>> -Adrian >>>> >>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>> that? >>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> |
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What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Tim: > > I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? > > Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. > > Regards, > Ruth > > Tim Ruppert wrote: >> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >> >>> Hello Anil: >>> >>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>> >>> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>> release it) >>> >>> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>> the trunk >>> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>> true? >>> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>> > The main cons of this situations are the following: >>> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>> channel represented by a new release >>> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>> >>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> >>> Anil Patel wrote: >>> >>>> Ruth, >>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>> Anil Patel >>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ruth >>>>> >>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. Following are good place to start: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) Does this make sense? Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? > > Cheers, > Ruppert > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > >> Hi Tim: >> >> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >> >> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> >> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello Anil: >>>> >>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>> >>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>> release it) >>>> >>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>> the trunk >>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>> true? >>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>> >>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> >>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ruth, >>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > |
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the top level tests
1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly 2) same for Purchase Order. 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: > This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? > > Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". > > Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. > > Following are good place to start: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz > > Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) > > Does this make sense? > > Thanks and Regards > Anil Patel > HotWax Media Inc > Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > >> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >>> Hi Tim: >>> >>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>> >>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>> >>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>>> >>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>> release it) >>>>> >>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>> the trunk >>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>> true? >>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>> >>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ruth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > > |
BJ,
All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement? We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > the top level tests > 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly > 2) same for Purchase Order. > 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. > > > Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: >> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? >> >> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". >> >> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. >> >> Following are good place to start: >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz >> >> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) >> >> Does this make sense? >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >> >>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tim: >>>> >>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>>> >>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>>> >>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>>>> >>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>>> release it) >>>>>> >>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>>> the trunk >>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>>> true? >>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>>> >>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > |
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can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three.
Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM: > BJ, > All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement? > > We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results. > > Thanks and Regards > Anil Patel > HotWax Media Inc > Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> the top level tests >> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly >> 2) same for Purchase Order. >> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. >> >> >> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: >>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? >>> >>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". >>> >>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. >>> >>> Following are good place to start: >>> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index >>> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz >>> >>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) >>> >>> Does this make sense? >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>> >>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>> >>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>>>> >>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ruth >>>>> >>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>>>> release it) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>>>> the trunk >>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>>>> true? >>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > > |
Look for contents in
OrderTest.xml accountingtests.xml invoicetests.xml paymenttests.xml Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three. > > Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM: >> BJ, >> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement? >> >> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results. >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> the top level tests >>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly >>> 2) same for Purchase Order. >>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. >>> >>> >>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: >>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? >>>> >>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". >>>> >>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. >>>> >>>> Following are good place to start: >>>> >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index >>>> >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz >>>> >>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) >>>> >>>> Does this make sense? >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> Anil Patel >>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>>>>> release it) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>>>>> the trunk >>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>>>>> true? >>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >> > |
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Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules. first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity. I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount. the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in parallel to match the results. for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files. checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple of weeks. Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM: > Look for contents in > OrderTest.xml > accountingtests.xml > invoicetests.xml > paymenttests.xml > > Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added. > > Thanks and Regards > Anil Patel > HotWax Media Inc > Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three. >> >> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM: >>> BJ, >>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement? >>> >>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results. >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Anil Patel >>> HotWax Media Inc >>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> the top level tests >>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly >>>> 2) same for Purchase Order. >>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. >>>> >>>> >>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: >>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? >>>>> >>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". >>>>> >>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. >>>>> >>>>> Following are good place to start: >>>>> >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index >>>>> >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz >>>>> >>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) >>>>> >>>>> Does this make sense? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier. >>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time .... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>>>>>> release it) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>>>>>> the trunk >>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>>>>>> true? >>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > > |
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On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Anil: > > I'm not sure how to read the Jira issue report, so maybe you can help me understand this. If I look at the Jira issues page > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ, it says that there are 585 open issues of which 283 are considered "critical". Is this true? Why are you asking? Aren't you a member of this community? Please, test them and verify the issues, add comments to them etc... > I mean is it true that there are over 500 open issues related to a version of OFBiz that you propose to release as a new stable release? Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this? BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are done when companies think there are no bugs? Really? Kind regards, Jacopo > > Regards, > Ruth > > Anil Patel wrote: >> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >> >> >>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Anil Patel wrote: >>> >>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> Anil Patel >>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>> that? >>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> |
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Anil,
Just scratching the surface: this looks like a very good idea to me. Thanks for the initiative, I may help when I will get more time. Jacques From: "Anil Patel" <[hidden email]> > This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? > > Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its > ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok". > > Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared > functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. > > Following are good place to start: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz > > Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) > > Does this make sense? > > Thanks and Regards > Anil Patel > HotWax Media Inc > Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > >> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as >> I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by >> some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >>> Hi Tim: >>> >>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>> >>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project >>> concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version >>> they wish to get started with. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think >>>> that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are >>>> pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something >>>> you were asking for earlier. >>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all >>>> of the time .... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>> >>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here >>>>> for your convenience: >>>>> >>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>> release it) >>>>> >>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>> the trunk >>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>> true? >>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>> >>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and >>>>> said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug >>>>> fixes are concerned. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ruth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready >>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do >>>>>>>> testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but >>>>>>>> rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things >>>>>>>> possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release >>>>>>>>>> users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to >>>>>>>>>>> quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay >>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > |
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Hi BJ,
Then Selenium should be the way... Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > Those type of tests were not what I had in mind. > they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules. > first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to > receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity. > > > I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation > till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount. > > the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in > parallel to match the results. > > for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files. > checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple > of weeks. > > > > Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM: >> Look for contents in >> OrderTest.xml >> accountingtests.xml >> invoicetests.xml >> paymenttests.xml >> >> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added. >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three. >>> >>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM: >>>> BJ, >>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement? >>>> >>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to >>>> reproduce results. >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> Anil Patel >>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> the top level tests >>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly >>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order. >>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM: >>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence >>>>>> that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them >>>>>> working ok". >>>>>> >>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and >>>>>> declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want. >>>>>> >>>>>> Following are good place to start: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz >>>>>> >>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this make sense? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - >>>>>>> which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize >>>>>>> it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the >>>>>>>> project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or >>>>>>>> trunk version they wish to get started with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I >>>>>>>>> think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people >>>>>>>>> are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be >>>>>>>>> something you were asking for earlier. >>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" >>>>>>>>> all of the time .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat >>>>>>>>>> here for your convenience: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc.. >>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and >>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially >>>>>>>>>> release it) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of >>>>>>>>>> the trunk >>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also >>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc) >>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not >>>>>>>>>> true? >>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk >>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are >>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk? >>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following: >>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that >>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it: >>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing >>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release >>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is >>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out >>>>>>>>>> and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as >>>>>>>>>> far as bug fixes are concerned. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ruth, >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready >>>>>>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to >>>>>>>>>>>>> do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about >>>>>>>>>>>>> new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >> > |
Le 24/02/2010 09:19, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi BJ, > > Then Selenium should be the way... > > Jacques > it's this way I found the bug in AP/AR.... But : * There is not enough selenium tests in OFBiz * logging/historic functions are not implemented I tried to improve the seleniumXml behaviour in this JIRA issue, but it's maybe not the best way to do it. I have also been looking to the different logging frameworks, most of them are using JUnit 4 to manage the error and success states. So, I would be really happy to work with others to improve this implementation. Feel free to join ! https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3438 Regards, -- Erwan de FERRIERES www.nereide.biz |
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