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Re: Next Ofbiz release

David E Jones

Yes, exactly.

The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and  
release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting end-
users is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a  
business and service oriented application architecture as opposed to  
an object oriented one).

-David


On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:

> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to  
> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and  
> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>
> -Joe
>
> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework  
>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near future  
>> so we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>
>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put  
>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to  
>> the world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material,  
>> and another part of it would be some press releases that go through  
>> the ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to  
>> get involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it  
>> for now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention  
>> of contributors to the relevant materials.
>>
>> -David
>>

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Re: Next Ofbiz release

BJ Freeman
what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with the
 frame work?


David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:

>
> Yes, exactly.
>
> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting end-users
> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a business and
> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
> oriented one).
>
> -David
>
>
> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>
>> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near future so
>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>
>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to the
>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Next Ofbiz release

David E Jones

Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.

-David


On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with  
> the
> frame work?
>
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>
>> Yes, exactly.
>>
>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting end-
>> users
>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a  
>> business and
>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>> oriented one).
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>
>>> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near  
>>>> future so
>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>
>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to  
>>>> the
>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Next Ofbiz release

BJ Freeman
from what I read it seems you will be branching the framwork.
is this accruate?

David E Jones sent the following on 5/3/2008 10:44 AM:

>
> Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.
>
> -David
>
>
> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with the
>> frame work?
>>
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>>
>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>
>>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting end-users
>>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a business and
>>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>>> oriented one).
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>>
>>>> -Joe
>>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near future so
>>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>>
>>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to the
>>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Next Ofbiz release

David E Jones

Do you mean "branch" or "fork"?

Do a release branch, yes, as explained in the message, just like the  
release4.0 branch. The intent is to create a binary distribution of  
just the framework.

-David


On May 4, 2008, at 1:07 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> from what I read it seems you will be branching the framwork.
> is this accruate?
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 5/3/2008 10:44 AM:
>>
>> Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working  
>>> with the
>>> frame work?
>>>
>>>
>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>>
>>>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>>>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting end-
>>>> users
>>>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a  
>>>> business and
>>>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>>>> oriented one).
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used  
>>>>> (and
>>>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near  
>>>>>> future so
>>>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to  
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out  
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to  
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Next Ofbiz release

Adrian Crum
I was confused about that. I thought we were talking about releasing the
R4 framework.

-Adrian

David E Jones wrote:

>
> Do you mean "branch" or "fork"?
>
> Do a release branch, yes, as explained in the message, just like the
> release4.0 branch. The intent is to create a binary distribution of just
> the framework.
>
> -David
>
>
> On May 4, 2008, at 1:07 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> from what I read it seems you will be branching the framwork.
>> is this accruate?
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/3/2008 10:44 AM:
>>>
>>> Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with
>>>> the
>>>> frame work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>>>>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting
>>>>> end-users
>>>>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a
>>>>> business and
>>>>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>>>>> oriented one).
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>>>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>>>>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near
>>>>>>> future so
>>>>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>>>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to the
>>>>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>>>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>>>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>>>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Next Ofbiz release

guo weizhan
I think it need to make the ofbiz can  deploy  as war package would be
great, it need to do lot's of work to deploy ofbiz in websphere,weblogic and
others J2EE server. I think it can more easy to use and more popular if
ofbiz can deploy as war package

2008/5/5 Adrian Crum <[hidden email]>:

> I was confused about that. I thought we were talking about releasing the R4
> framework.
>
> -Adrian
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you mean "branch" or "fork"?
>>
>> Do a release branch, yes, as explained in the message, just like the
>> release4.0 branch. The intent is to create a binary distribution of just the
>> framework.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2008, at 1:07 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>  from what I read it seems you will be branching the framwork.
>>> is this accruate?
>>>
>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/3/2008 10:44 AM:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with
>>>>> the
>>>>> frame work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>>>>>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting
>>>>>> end-users
>>>>>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a business
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>>>>>> oriented one).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>>>>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>>>>>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>>>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near future
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>>>>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to the
>>>>>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>>>>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>>>>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>>>>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>>>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>>>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Next Ofbiz release

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
http://docs.ofbiz.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4098

Jacques

From: "guo weizhan" <[hidden email]>

>I think it need to make the ofbiz can  deploy  as war package would be
> great, it need to do lot's of work to deploy ofbiz in websphere,weblogic and
> others J2EE server. I think it can more easy to use and more popular if
> ofbiz can deploy as war package
>
> 2008/5/5 Adrian Crum <[hidden email]>:
>
>> I was confused about that. I thought we were talking about releasing the R4
>> framework.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Do you mean "branch" or "fork"?
>>>
>>> Do a release branch, yes, as explained in the message, just like the
>>> release4.0 branch. The intent is to create a binary distribution of just the
>>> framework.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2008, at 1:07 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>  from what I read it seems you will be branching the framwork.
>>>> is this accruate?
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/3/2008 10:44 AM:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you be more specific? I don't understand the question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  what will happen to the effort to keep the applications working with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> frame work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 5/2/2008 1:09 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main intent is to release something that is easier to test and
>>>>>>> release to attract end-users. Part of the point of attracting
>>>>>>> end-users
>>>>>>> is to popularize the OFBiz framework way of doing things (a business
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> service oriented application architecture as opposed to an object
>>>>>>> oriented one).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  When you're speaking of releasing the framework, is the intent to
>>>>>>>> distribute something standalone that could be downloaded / used (and
>>>>>>>> tested / maintained) separately from the business applications?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any other comments on this? I'd really love to get the framework
>>>>>>>>> shaped up and cleaned up as much as we plan to for the near future
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> we can release something and keep it stable for a while...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Related to this, when we release the framework I really want to put
>>>>>>>>> some stuff together to talk it up and get the ideas in it out to the
>>>>>>>>> world. Part of that would be more docs and marketing material, and
>>>>>>>>> another part of it would be some press releases that go through the
>>>>>>>>> ASF public relations group. If any one or any company wants to get
>>>>>>>>> involved with that please speak up! I'll try to coordinate it for
>>>>>>>>> now, but there is certainly room for public credit and mention of
>>>>>>>>> contributors to the relevant materials.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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