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geodude
Hi all,

I am trying to understand what ofbiz is, its uses and capabilities. I have
been messing around with it for about a year or two, on and off.

I have tried understading it from the end user point of view, but the
interface is too complicated and have to spend days trying to do something
trivial that I can do in seconds in my proprietary wms, like adding a test
order to the system, in many cases I have get java errors that only the
devs should be able to see and they are unrecoverable.

I need some help getting to some documentation on how to use the product,
as I am evaluating to use it as a  wms platform. but I can not use it out
of the box for my purposes, since it seems very unpolished and buggy.

Thanks for any help..
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Pranay Pandey-2

Hi Sergio,

Thanks for looking into the possibilities of using OFBiz for your business. OFBiz Community is in process to overhaul overall OFBiz documentation. Sharan Foga, who is a well known author of books on OFBiz and member of Project Management Committee has initiated a OFBiz Documentation Survey for the same. Please complete this survey it will help the community in knowing things which can be made better. It's only 10 questions and you will be finished before you know it!

Survey Link- https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MRXZQGW

For trying OFBiz processes what has been your method, I mean did you deployed it by your own or tried using demo instance. Using demo instances can be good way to avoid any deployment related issues.
You can access these instances:
13.07 Release Branch Demo (stable) - http://demo-stable-ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr/control/main
12.04 Release Branch Demo (old) - http://demo-old-ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr

Please feel free to post your questions on user mailing list.

Pranay Pandey
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors


On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Sergio G Barreros <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to understand what ofbiz is, its uses and capabilities. I have
> been messing around with it for about a year or two, on and off.
>
> I have tried understading it from the end user point of view, but the
> interface is too complicated and have to spend days trying to do something
> trivial that I can do in seconds in my proprietary wms, like adding a test
> order to the system, in many cases I have get java errors that only the
> devs should be able to see and they are unrecoverable.
>
> I need some help getting to some documentation on how to use the product,
> as I am evaluating to use it as a  wms platform. but I can not use it out
> of the box for my purposes, since it seems very unpolished and buggy.
>
> Thanks for any help..

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Re: OFBIZ manual??

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 01/10/2014 09:27, Pranay Pandey a écrit :

> Hi Sergio,
>
> Thanks for looking into the possibilities of using OFBiz for your business. OFBiz Community is in process to overhaul overall OFBiz documentation. Sharan Foga, who is a well known author of books on OFBiz and member of Project Management Committee has initiated a OFBiz Documentation Survey for the same. Please complete this survey it will help the community in knowing things which can be made better. It's only 10 questions and you will be finished before you know it!
>
> Survey Link- https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MRXZQGW
>
> For trying OFBiz processes what has been your method, I mean did you deployed it by your own or tried using demo instance. Using demo instances can be good way to avoid any deployment related issues.
> You can access these instances:
> 13.07 Release Branch Demo (stable) - http://demo-stable-ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr/control/main
> 12.04 Release Branch Demo (old) - http://demo-old-ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr

Thanks Pranay!

Sergio, you can even try the trunk demo at http://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/ordermgr/control/main credential: admin/ofbiz

Jacques

>
> Please feel free to post your questions on user mailing list.
>
> Pranay Pandey
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
> http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Sergio G Barreros <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to understand what ofbiz is, its uses and capabilities. I have
>> been messing around with it for about a year or two, on and off.
>>
>> I have tried understading it from the end user point of view, but the
>> interface is too complicated and have to spend days trying to do something
>> trivial that I can do in seconds in my proprietary wms, like adding a test
>> order to the system, in many cases I have get java errors that only the
>> devs should be able to see and they are unrecoverable.
>>
>> I need some help getting to some documentation on how to use the product,
>> as I am evaluating to use it as a  wms platform. but I can not use it out
>> of the box for my purposes, since it seems very unpolished and buggy.
>>
>> Thanks for any help..
>
>
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Pierre Smits
Sergio,

Maybe you could elaborate a bit more on the use-cases you're trying to
achieve and the issues you're experiencing?

That way this community will learn more about your predicaments and might
be able to help a little better.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Le 01/10/2014 09:27, Pranay Pandey a écrit :
>
>> Hi Sergio,
>>
>> Thanks for looking into the possibilities of using OFBiz for your
>> business. OFBiz Community is in process to overhaul overall OFBiz
>> documentation. Sharan Foga, who is a well known author of books on OFBiz
>> and member of Project Management Committee has initiated a OFBiz
>> Documentation Survey for the same. Please complete this survey it will help
>> the community in knowing things which can be made better. It's only 10
>> questions and you will be finished before you know it!
>>
>> Survey Link- https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MRXZQGW
>>
>> For trying OFBiz processes what has been your method, I mean did you
>> deployed it by your own or tried using demo instance. Using demo instances
>> can be good way to avoid any deployment related issues.
>> You can access these instances:
>> 13.07 Release Branch Demo (stable) - http://demo-stable-ofbiz.
>> apache.org/partymgr/control/main
>> 12.04 Release Branch Demo (old) - http://demo-old-ofbiz.apache.
>> org/partymgr
>>
>
> Thanks Pranay!
>
> Sergio, you can even try the trunk demo at http://demo-trunk-ofbiz.
> apache.org/ordermgr/control/main credential: admin/ofbiz
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
>> Please feel free to post your questions on user mailing list.
>>
>> Pranay Pandey
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
>> http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors
>>
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Sergio G Barreros <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand what ofbiz is, its uses and capabilities. I
>>> have
>>> been messing around with it for about a year or two, on and off.
>>>
>>> I have tried understading it from the end user point of view, but the
>>> interface is too complicated and have to spend days trying to do
>>> something
>>> trivial that I can do in seconds in my proprietary wms, like adding a
>>> test
>>> order to the system, in many cases I have get java errors that only the
>>> devs should be able to see and they are unrecoverable.
>>>
>>> I need some help getting to some documentation on how to use the product,
>>> as I am evaluating to use it as a  wms platform. but I can not use it out
>>> of the box for my purposes, since it seems very unpolished and buggy.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help..
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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joelfradkin@gmail.com
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https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index

If you do google search for ofbiz documentation this is one of the links.
It has URL to development help and end user help.

There are several books available depending upon what you need help with.
This list is excellent source of help as well.

I am new to Ofbiz (3 months now). I found it a bit overwhelming at first, but it is pretty easy to make it do what you need. The platform itself is very rich. You can do special projects easily using a ant create command. It is built on tomcat, so out of the box you get a bunch of components (like you mentioned you probably want to wrap them in your own front end if you wish to simplify and control errors). I can tell you I almost never get errors any more running the app, so you get used to the order of which things need to be set up. As mentioned Sharon has some good books on accounting and MRP from a user standpoint. Ruth has a good dev book (work book, but I found it very helpful). The platform has FTL (freemarker) and widgets (XML) for front end and minilang, java, and groovy for back end. In 3 months I have done a front end allowing my users to work with inventory using a much simpler interface (I did not re-write any of the services for the most part; just adjusted the frontend and messages etc). I created an EDI app that uses configuration from files (Ofbiz has a great entity engiine, easy to add data on first load and add tables to the data base). My best advice is to pick up a few of the books (I really like the accounting one by Sharon as it takes you step by step on how to configure the system). I did not buy any books the first month or so (with the exception of the cook book by Ruth Hoffman), and I found it very hard to understand all the components, their relationship to each other. After I got some documentation (and there is plenty of new documentation out that I found a bit later, so could be you could get by with free docs now). I understand the system much better, and get far fewer errors. I am not very experienced compared to others pn the list, but this is a great place to get help.
Joel Fradkin
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Pierre Smits
Joel,

Thank you for the supportive reply.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:58 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]
> wrote:

>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index
>
> If you do google search for ofbiz documentation this is one of the links.
> It has URL to development help and end user help.
>
> There are several books available depending upon what you need help with.
> This list is excellent source of help as well.
>
> I am new to Ofbiz (3 months now). I found it a bit overwhelming at first,
> but it is pretty easy to make it do what you need. The platform itself is
> very rich. You can do special projects easily using a ant create command.
> It
> is built on tomcat, so out of the box you get a bunch of components (like
> you mentioned you probably want to wrap them in your own front end if you
> wish to simplify and control errors). I can tell you I almost never get
> errors any more running the app, so you get used to the order of which
> things need to be set up. As mentioned Sharon has some good books on
> accounting and MRP from a user standpoint. Ruth has a good dev book (work
> book, but I found it very helpful). The platform has FTL (freemarker) and
> widgets (XML) for front end and minilang, java, and groovy for back end. In
> 3 months I have done a front end allowing my users to work with inventory
> using a much simpler interface (I did not re-write any of the services for
> the most part; just adjusted the frontend and messages etc). I created an
> EDI app that uses configuration from files (Ofbiz has a great entity
> engiine, easy to add data on first load and add tables to the data base).
> My
> best advice is to pick up a few of the books (I really like the accounting
> one by Sharon as it takes you step by step on how to configure the system).
> I did not buy any books the first month or so (with the exception of the
> cook book by Ruth Hoffman), and I found it very hard to understand all the
> components, their relationship to each other. After I got some
> documentation
> (and there is plenty of new documentation out that I found a bit later, so
> could be you could get by with free docs now). I understand the system much
> better, and get far fewer errors. I am not very experienced compared to
> others pn the list, but this is a great place to get help.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joel Fradkin
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656314.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Ron Wheeler
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We are working on the on-line documentation and if you find errors or
confusing descriptions, please do not hesitate to raise these as issues
in this forum.

Ron

On 01/10/2014 8:58 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index
>
> If you do google search for ofbiz documentation this is one of the links.
> It has URL to development help and end user help.
>
> There are several books available depending upon what you need help with.
> This list is excellent source of help as well.
>
> I am new to Ofbiz (3 months now). I found it a bit overwhelming at first,
> but it is pretty easy to make it do what you need. The platform itself is
> very rich. You can do special projects easily using a ant create command. It
> is built on tomcat, so out of the box you get a bunch of components (like
> you mentioned you probably want to wrap them in your own front end if you
> wish to simplify and control errors). I can tell you I almost never get
> errors any more running the app, so you get used to the order of which
> things need to be set up. As mentioned Sharon has some good books on
> accounting and MRP from a user standpoint. Ruth has a good dev book (work
> book, but I found it very helpful). The platform has FTL (freemarker) and
> widgets (XML) for front end and minilang, java, and groovy for back end. In
> 3 months I have done a front end allowing my users to work with inventory
> using a much simpler interface (I did not re-write any of the services for
> the most part; just adjusted the frontend and messages etc). I created an
> EDI app that uses configuration from files (Ofbiz has a great entity
> engiine, easy to add data on first load and add tables to the data base). My
> best advice is to pick up a few of the books (I really like the accounting
> one by Sharon as it takes you step by step on how to configure the system).
> I did not buy any books the first month or so (with the exception of the
> cook book by Ruth Hoffman), and I found it very hard to understand all the
> components, their relationship to each other. After I got some documentation
> (and there is plenty of new documentation out that I found a bit later, so
> could be you could get by with free docs now). I understand the system much
> better, and get far fewer errors. I am not very experienced compared to
> others pn the list, but this is a great place to get help.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joel Fradkin
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656314.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: [hidden email]
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

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Pierre Smits
Or even better, raise JIRA issues. That way progress can be tracked.

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Ron Wheeler <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> We are working on the on-line documentation and if you find errors or
> confusing descriptions, please do not hesitate to raise these as issues in
> this forum.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 01/10/2014 8:58 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/
>> OFBiz+Documentation+Index
>>
>> If you do google search for ofbiz documentation this is one of the links.
>> It has URL to development help and end user help.
>>
>> There are several books available depending upon what you need help with.
>> This list is excellent source of help as well.
>>
>> I am new to Ofbiz (3 months now). I found it a bit overwhelming at first,
>> but it is pretty easy to make it do what you need. The platform itself is
>> very rich. You can do special projects easily using a ant create command.
>> It
>> is built on tomcat, so out of the box you get a bunch of components (like
>> you mentioned you probably want to wrap them in your own front end if you
>> wish to simplify and control errors). I can tell you I almost never get
>> errors any more running the app, so you get used to the order of which
>> things need to be set up. As mentioned Sharon has some good books on
>> accounting and MRP from a user standpoint. Ruth has a good dev book (work
>> book, but I found it very helpful). The platform has FTL (freemarker) and
>> widgets (XML) for front end and minilang, java, and groovy for back end.
>> In
>> 3 months I have done a front end allowing my users to work with inventory
>> using a much simpler interface (I did not re-write any of the services for
>> the most part; just adjusted the frontend and messages etc). I created an
>> EDI app that uses configuration from files (Ofbiz has a great entity
>> engiine, easy to add data on first load and add tables to the data base).
>> My
>> best advice is to pick up a few of the books (I really like the accounting
>> one by Sharon as it takes you step by step on how to configure the
>> system).
>> I did not buy any books the first month or so (with the exception of the
>> cook book by Ruth Hoffman), and I found it very hard to understand all the
>> components, their relationship to each other. After I got some
>> documentation
>> (and there is plenty of new documentation out that I found a bit later, so
>> could be you could get by with free docs now). I understand the system
>> much
>> better, and get far fewer errors. I am not very experienced compared to
>> others pn the list, but this is a great place to get help.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Joel Fradkin
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>> com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656314.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: [hidden email]
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>
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joelfradkin@gmail.com
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I thought I was seeing things. I read most of the pages when I first started and I could see great strides at least without seeing side by side what I saw the first time.
Fir example I was referred to the security model documentation and I think you must have updated that page it was great. Maybe I just understand it better, but I don't recall it having examples in FTL and XML etc. It was very clear and helpful today.
Joel Fradkin
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Todd Thorner
Great to know, thanks for sharing.  Thanks especially to those involved
with the current doc effort, it might actually be time for me to give
OFBiz implementation another one of my amateur tries.



On 14-10-01 12:35 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> I thought I was seeing things. I read most of the pages when I first started
> and I could see great strides at least without seeing side by side what I
> saw the first time.
> Fir example I was referred to the security model documentation and I think
> you must have updated that page it was great. Maybe I just understand it
> better, but I don't recall it having examples in FTL and XML etc. It was
> very clear and helpful today.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joel Fradkin
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656356.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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geodude
Thanks for the great suggestion everyone. You guys rock, I will look for
the siggested material.
On Oct 1, 2014 3:42 PM, "Todd Thorner" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Great to know, thanks for sharing.  Thanks especially to those involved
> with the current doc effort, it might actually be time for me to give
> OFBiz implementation another one of my amateur tries.
>
>
>
> On 14-10-01 12:35 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > I thought I was seeing things. I read most of the pages when I first
> started
> > and I could see great strides at least without seeing side by side what I
> > saw the first time.
> > Fir example I was referred to the security model documentation and I
> think
> > you must have updated that page it was great. Maybe I just understand it
> > better, but I don't recall it having examples in FTL and XML etc. It was
> > very clear and helpful today.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Joel Fradkin
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656356.html
> > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
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geodude
By the way,

I am trying to use it to create a warehouse management platform,
pick/pack/ship, possibly edi??
Let me know if anubody can point me to specific literature I should be
reading for that, for users and devs, or if anybody has had any experience
with this..

Thanks all.

Thanls
On Oct 1, 2014 4:56 PM, "Sergio G Barreros" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the great suggestion everyone. You guys rock, I will look for
> the siggested material.
> On Oct 1, 2014 3:42 PM, "Todd Thorner" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Great to know, thanks for sharing.  Thanks especially to those involved
>> with the current doc effort, it might actually be time for me to give
>> OFBiz implementation another one of my amateur tries.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14-10-01 12:35 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> > I thought I was seeing things. I read most of the pages when I first
>> started
>> > and I could see great strides at least without seeing side by side what
>> I
>> > saw the first time.
>> > Fir example I was referred to the security model documentation and I
>> think
>> > you must have updated that page it was great. Maybe I just understand it
>> > better, but I don't recall it having examples in FTL and XML etc. It was
>> > very clear and helpful today.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Joel Fradkin
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBIZ-manual-tp4656272p4656356.html
>> > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
>>
>
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joelfradkin@gmail.com
I will be happy to help with the EDI part I wrote. It is not part of the release, but if you get to where you need it let me know. Some folks suggested a more comprehensive system, mine allows for the config of separate suppliers using edi tables (header, section, field) and can FTP the out put. So while you may not use it as is it might help in regards to how to fire up FTP etc. The suggestions were to include logging and regular nightly transfers. I did something like that at my last job, but this job is specifically for food, and it was determined ti was better to get real time confirmation the EDI file transfered. So it just has a send button, no scheduling.
Joel Fradkin