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Nick Rosser-2
  All,

(reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)

I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.

Check out www.1800athlete.com

This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:

  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
    www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
    with the "1800athlete" site
  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
    BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
      o single database to support both sites
      o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
      o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
        separate product catalog
      o no additional programming was required to build
        www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
        configuration and it's a go!

It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.

For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
and more success stories. Enjoy!

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
[hidden email]
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com
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Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

David Saenz
Congratulations!  Awesome!

On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:

>  All,
>
> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>
> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.
>
> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>
> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>
>  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>    www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>    with the "1800athlete" site
>  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>    BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>      o single database to support both sites
>      o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>      o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>        separate product catalog
>      o no additional programming was required to build
>        www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>        configuration and it's a go!
>
> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>
> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> *Nick Rosser*
> [hidden email]
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
>
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Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

David Saenz
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What is bigfish?

On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:

>  All,
>
> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>
> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.
>
> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>
> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>
>  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>    www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>    with the "1800athlete" site
>  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>    BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>      o single database to support both sites
>      o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>      o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>        separate product catalog
>      o no additional programming was required to build
>        www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>        configuration and it's a go!
>
> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>
> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> *Nick Rosser*
> [hidden email]
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
>
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Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

emeka okafor
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How long does it take to build such a website? Could you give a comparison between bigfish and something like yahoo merchant or spotify with respect to time to market and price? I have been falling in and out of love with ofbiz because it seems that I cannot get real productive while I am trying to understand how the whole  framework is built.



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 From: Nick Rosser <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com
 

All,

(reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)

I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.

Check out www.1800athlete.com

This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:

* a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
  www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
* After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
   with the "1800athlete" site
* The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
   BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
     o single database to support both sites
     o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
     o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
       separate product catalog
     o no additional programming was required to build
       www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
       configuration and it's a go!

It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.

For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com. More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements and more success stories. Enjoy!

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
[hidden email]
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com
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Nick Rosser-2
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David,

In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
solution.

Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com

In particular, look at the demo instances.

Fashion House eCommerce:    
http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
Fashion House Admin Module:  
https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main
     (login is admin/ofbiz)

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
[hidden email]
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:

> What is bigfish?
>
> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>   All,
>>
>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>
>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.
>>
>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>
>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>>
>>   * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>     www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>   * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>     with the "1800athlete" site
>>   * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>     BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>       o single database to support both sites
>>       o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>       o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>         separate product catalog
>>       o no additional programming was required to build
>>         www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>         configuration and it's a go!
>>
>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>
>> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> *Nick Rosser*
>> [hidden email]
>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>> www.solveda.com
>>
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Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Ted Byers
Hi Nick,

Impressive!

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.

Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)

Thanks

Ted

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:

> David,
>
> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
> solution.
>
> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>
> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>
> Fashion House eCommerce:
> http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
> Fashion House Admin Module:
> https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main
>     (login is admin/ofbiz)
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> *Nick Rosser*
> [hidden email]
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
>
> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>
>> What is bigfish?
>>
>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>
>>>   All,
>>>
>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>
>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>> live.
>>>
>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>
>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>>>
>>>   * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>>     www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>   * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>>     with the "1800athlete" site
>>>   * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>>     BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>       o single database to support both sites
>>>       o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>       o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>>         separate product catalog
>>>       o no additional programming was required to build
>>>         www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>>         configuration and it's a go!
>>>
>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>
>>> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>> [hidden email]
>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>> www.solveda.com
>>>
>



--
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.
[hidden email]
CTO
Merchant Services Corp.
17665 Leslie st., unit 30
Newmarket , Ontario
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Nick Rosser-2
Ted,

Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer
them as best I can:

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?

NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity model, and the great service layer. So, for example, we have a concept called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content that manages the display of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally have Store locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz "content" entities ... but more easily maintained in the Admin Module (Content ->  Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see that by this simple example that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a much more manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really all about -- reusing features of OFBiz, having our own Admin Module, and giving control to the business users to manage their site.

If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer facing aspect of eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP features into the BigFish Admin Module (for example, we're recently exposed the order-status-change features in the Order Management module). Key word here is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... reusing existing OFBiz services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.


Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?

NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/index.htm -- the "HOW DO I" and "GUIDES" have the most value. We are essentially using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and linking up Product Catalogs to the Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff. There is a new entity in the data model called X_CONTENT_XREF (we've prefixed our new entities with "X" to make it clearer) that maps various content to the Product-Store (not supported out-of-the-box). We are working on another "extended site" for a client at which point documentation will be available. It's actually not that difficult.


In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?


NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish application; different database with different products; different CSS; different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the CSS we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being morphed by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.

And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.


NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights: we use sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be overridden in the Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have friendly URL's built into the solution.


One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.

NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on your detailed requirements.


Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)


NICK: I know we've talked about having a public read-only SVN available on the site. I'll follow-up with the techs. Shouldn't be a problem.

Nick

On 5/7/2013 2:21 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Impressive!
>
> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
> only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>
> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
> instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
> wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
> the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
> connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
> sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
> bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
> their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
> websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
> different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
> they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
> you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
>> solution.
>>
>> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>>
>> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>>
>> Fashion House eCommerce:
>> http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
>> Fashion House Admin Module:
>> https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main
>>      (login is admin/ofbiz)
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> *Nick Rosser*
>> [hidden email]
>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>> www.solveda.com
>>
>> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>> What is bigfish?
>>>
>>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>>    All,
>>>>
>>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>>> live.
>>>>
>>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>>
>>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>>>>
>>>>    * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>>>      www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>>    * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>>>      with the "1800athlete" site
>>>>    * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>>>      BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>>        o single database to support both sites
>>>>        o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>>        o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>>>          separate product catalog
>>>>        o no additional programming was required to build
>>>>          www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>>>          configuration and it's a go!
>>>>
>>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
>>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>>
>>>> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>>> www.solveda.com
>>>>
>
>
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RE: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Len Shein-3
Ted,
Nick has answered most of your questions I will answer your last question
concerning SVN.

Ted: Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)

Len:
Since release of BigFish V1.10 we have worked on retrieving the BigFish code
base directly from SVN, this will be readily available in the next version
of BigFish (Version 1.11) scheduled for release on May 10th, 2013.  BigFish
will have 3 options for downloading via: (zip, installer or SVN).  Check
http://bigfish.solveda.com/bfDownload.html for detailed 'How to'
instructions.

Len


-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Rosser [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:45 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Ted,

Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer
them as best I can:

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?

NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity
model, and the great service layer. So, for example, we have a concept
called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content that manages the display
of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally have Store
locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz "content"
entities ... but more easily maintained in the Admin Module (Content ->
Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see that by this simple example
that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a much more
manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really all about --
reusing features of OFBiz, having our own Admin Module, and giving control
to the business users to manage their site.

If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer facing
aspect of eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP features
into the BigFish Admin Module (for example, we're recently exposed the
order-status-change features in the Order Management module). Key word here
is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... reusing existing OFBiz
services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.


Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?

NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at
http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/index.htm -- the "HOW DO I" and "GUIDES"
have the most value. We are essentially using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and
linking up Product Catalogs to the Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff.
There is a new entity in the data model called X_CONTENT_XREF (we've
prefixed our new entities with "X" to make it clearer) that maps various
content to the Product-Store (not supported out-of-the-box). We are working
on another "extended site" for a client at which point documentation will be
available. It's actually not that difficult.


In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?


NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and
Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish
application; different database with different products; different CSS;
different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the CSS
we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being
morphed by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.

And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.


NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights: we
use sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be overridden
in the Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have friendly
URL's built into the solution.


One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.

NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The
digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on
your detailed requirements.


Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)


NICK: I know we've talked about having a public read-only SVN available on
the site. I'll follow-up with the techs. Shouldn't be a problem.

Nick

On 5/7/2013 2:21 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Impressive!
>
> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
> only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>
> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
> instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
> wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
> the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
> connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
> sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
> bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
> their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
> websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
> different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
> they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
> you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
>> solution.
>>
>> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>>
>> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>>
>> Fashion House eCommerce:
>> http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
>> Fashion House Admin Module:
>> https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main
>>      (login is admin/ofbiz)
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> *Nick Rosser*
>> [hidden email]
>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>> www.solveda.com
>>
>> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>> What is bigfish?
>>>
>>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>>    All,
>>>>
>>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>>> live.
>>>>
>>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>>
>>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more
interesting:

>>>>
>>>>    * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>>>      www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>>    * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>>>      with the "1800athlete" site
>>>>    * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>>>      BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>>        o single database to support both sites
>>>>        o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>>        o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>>>          separate product catalog
>>>>        o no additional programming was required to build
>>>>          www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>>>          configuration and it's a go!
>>>>
>>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have
very
>>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>>
>>>> For more information about BigFish check out
http://bigfish.solveda.com.

>>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>>> www.solveda.com
>>>>
>
>

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Ted Byers
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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Nick Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer them as
> best I can:
>

> One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The
> digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on
> your detailed requirements.
>
>
Well, I have not yet really made sense of the support that OFBiz
provides for digital content, save that my imporession is that it is
suitable for individual, stand-alone digital products (videos, photos,
novels in PDF format, &c.).  However, it seems certain that however
good that support is, adding a digital product to an ecommerce store
selling digital products will not compare to what is possible when
using WordPress.  WordPress, as you may know, is commonly know for
supporting blogging, but what seems less well known is that it is the
software used to support many electronic journals and 'virtual
newspapers'.  It has built in support for different kinds of users,
from mere members (those who only read the content), authors, and
editors (who full the corresponding roles in regular new magazines and
newpapers).  Often, membership is free, but for commercial sites, one
pays for membership, and the sites provide some free content as a kind
of advertizing.  Thus, what I have in mind involves a multisite
WordPress installation that serves all content (both excerpts
presented as ads in an estore, and the paid content).  Thus, the
shopping carte/checkout pages from OFBiz/BiFish would have to be
seemlessly integrated into the WordPress site (not so much in terms of
being embedded on the WordPress pages, but with the same look and
feel, and seemless navigation between the two so that the user does
not realize that the ecommerce pages and the content pages are coming
from two different servers).  Some time later this summer, I expect to
be hiring a PHP programmer to add a sharable, searchable read-only
archive to my Wordpress site in such a way that any author writing for
any Wordpress site I am hosting can dynanically link to sections of
documents in the archive.  This model allows authors or journalists to
include a great deal more detail and analysis in thier articles.  in
any event, I need a viable solution to make it easy for them to both
advertize their content and get paid for it.  I know some approach the
problem by buying or developing an ecommerce plugin written in PHP to
add onto WordPress, but I figure I ought to be able to support this
using the ecommerce capabilities of either OFBiz or BigFish.

What do you think?

Cheers

Ted
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Ted Byers
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Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
 I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?

Thanks

Ted
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Ted Byers
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I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
the time taken to write it.

Thanks

Ted
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Len Shein-3
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Yes I would assume so, all BigFish code is an 'extension' of the Ofbiz frm
trunk.

Len

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From: Ted Byers [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:32 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
 I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?

Thanks

Ted

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Nick Rosser-2
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Ted,

You're welcome. Let me mull over your electronic text / Wordpress query ...

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
[hidden email]
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

On 5/7/2013 3:36 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
> I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
> forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
> the time taken to write it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
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Sakthivel Vellingiri
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Hi Ted,

My 2 cents, I have setup Bigfish 1.10 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with OpenJdk
7; with Apache 2 in front as a proxy to Tomcat; Works great; Happy to
help, if you bump into any issues; Nick & Team, Keep up the good work
and thanks for the contribution; Looking forward to 1.11; and code
being accesible through svn

- Regards
Sakthi



On 5/7/13, Ted Byers <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
>  I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
> assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

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Nick Rosser-2
Sakthi,

Great to hear from you again! Pleased to see that BigFish is working out
for you. V1.11 coming soon.

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
[hidden email]
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

On 5/7/2013 6:46 PM, Integrin wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>
> My 2 cents, I have setup Bigfish 1.10 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with OpenJdk
> 7; with Apache 2 in front as a proxy to Tomcat; Works great; Happy to
> help, if you bump into any issues; Nick&  Team, Keep up the good work
> and thanks for the contribution; Looking forward to 1.11; and code
> being accesible through svn
>
> - Regards
> Sakthi
>
>
>
> On 5/7/13, Ted Byers<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
>>   I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
>> assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted
>>
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Tri Vssic
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   Thank BigFish / OFBiz
    In X_CONTENT_XREF table has CONTENT_TYPE_ID column, is this for faster
performance query because existing CONTENT table ?
    Could you tell me more clearly for setting up ProductStore to a Domain
(Multi-Site) as mr Nick said ?
    And how is the policy for contribute (commit) to BigFish's SVN, we
already have Vietnamese language for BF version 1.10.
    Thank you
    Tri

2013/5/8 Nick Rosser <[hidden email]>

> Ted,
>
> Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer them
> as best I can:
>
>
> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
> only, with regard to ecommerce?
>
> NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity
> model, and the great service layer. So, for example, we have a concept
> called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content that manages the
> display of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally
> have Store locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz
> "content" entities ... but more easily maintained in the Admin Module
> (Content ->  Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see that by this
> simple example that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a
> much more manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really
> all about -- reusing features of OFBiz, having our own Admin Module, and
> giving control to the business users to manage their site.
>
>
> If not, can you point to a document
> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>
> NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer
> facing aspect of eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP
> features into the BigFish Admin Module (for example, we're recently exposed
> the order-status-change features in the Order Management module). Key word
> here is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... reusing existing OFBiz
> services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.
>
>
>
> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
> instructions on how to deploy that?
>
> NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at
> http://bigfish.solveda.com/**help/index.htm<http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/index.htm>-- the "HOW DO I" and "GUIDES" have the most value. We are essentially
> using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and linking up Product Catalogs to the
> Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff. There is a new entity in the data
> model called X_CONTENT_XREF (we've prefixed our new entities with "X" to
> make it clearer) that maps various content to the Product-Store (not
> supported out-of-the-box). We are working on another "extended site" for a
> client at which point documentation will be available. It's actually not
> that difficult.
>
>
>
> In connection to this, can a merchant readily
> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
> their own CSS, and drop it in place?
>
>
> NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and
> Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish
> application; different database with different products; different CSS;
> different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the CSS
> we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being
> morphed by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.
>
>
> And also concernig this, what do
> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.
>
>
> NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights:
> we use sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be
> overridden in the Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have
> friendly URL's built into the solution.
>
>
>
> One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The
> digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on
> your detailed requirements.
>
>
>
> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>
>
> NICK: I know we've talked about having a public read-only SVN available on
> the site. I'll follow-up with the techs. Shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On 5/7/2013 2:21 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
>
>  Hi Nick,
>>
>> Impressive!
>>
>> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
>> only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
>> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
>> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
>> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
>> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>>
>> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
>> instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
>> wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
>> the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
>> connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
>> sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
>> bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
>> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
>> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
>> their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
>> websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
>> different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
>> they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
>> you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
>> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
>> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
>> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
>> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
>> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
>> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
>> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
>> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
>> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
>> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>>
>> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
>> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
>> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
>> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
>> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
>> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>>>
>>> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>>>
>>> Fashion House eCommerce:
>>> <a href="http://bigfish.solveda.com:**8082/online/shop/main">http://bigfish.solveda.com:**8082/online/shop/main<http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main>
>>> Fashion House Admin Module:
>>> <a href="https://bigfish.solveda.com:**8442/osafe-admin/control/main">https://bigfish.solveda.com:**8442/osafe-admin/control/main<https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main>
>>>      (login is admin/ofbiz)
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>> [hidden email]
>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>> www.solveda.com
>>>
>>> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is bigfish?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    All,
>>>>>
>>>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>>>> live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more
>>>>> interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>>    * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>>>>      www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>>>    * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>>>>      with the "1800athlete" site
>>>>>    * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>>>>      BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>>>        o single database to support both sites
>>>>>        o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>>>        o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>>>>          separate product catalog
>>>>>        o no additional programming was required to build
>>>>>          www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>>>>          configuration and it's a go!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>>>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have
>>>>> very
>>>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information about BigFish check out
>>>>> http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>>>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>>>> www.solveda.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>


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Len Shein-3
Tri,
The sole purpose of the X_CONTENT_XREF  entity is to associate specific
Content (content_id) to a product store (product_store_id).

At this time there is no 'policy' for contributing back to BigFish SVN;
could you be more specific on what your are looking to contribute?

Regards
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Tri Vssic [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

   Thank BigFish / OFBiz
    In X_CONTENT_XREF table has CONTENT_TYPE_ID column, is this for faster
performance query because existing CONTENT table ?
    Could you tell me more clearly for setting up ProductStore to a Domain
(Multi-Site) as mr Nick said ?
    And how is the policy for contribute (commit) to BigFish's SVN, we
already have Vietnamese language for BF version 1.10.
    Thank you
    Tri

2013/5/8 Nick Rosser <[hidden email]>

> Ted,
>
> Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer them
> as best I can:
>
>
> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
> only, with regard to ecommerce?
>
> NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity
> model, and the great service layer. So, for example, we have a concept
> called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content that manages the
> display of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally
> have Store locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz
> "content" entities ... but more easily maintained in the Admin Module
> (Content ->  Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see that by this
> simple example that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a
> much more manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really
> all about -- reusing features of OFBiz, having our own Admin Module, and
> giving control to the business users to manage their site.
>
>
> If not, can you point to a document
> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>
> NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer
> facing aspect of eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP
> features into the BigFish Admin Module (for example, we're recently
exposed

> the order-status-change features in the Order Management module). Key word
> here is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... reusing existing OFBiz
> services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.
>
>
>
> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
> instructions on how to deploy that?
>
> NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at
>
http://bigfish.solveda.com/**help/index.htm<http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/
index.htm>-- the "HOW DO I" and "GUIDES" have the most value. We are
essentially

> using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and linking up Product Catalogs to the
> Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff. There is a new entity in the data
> model called X_CONTENT_XREF (we've prefixed our new entities with "X" to
> make it clearer) that maps various content to the Product-Store (not
> supported out-of-the-box). We are working on another "extended site" for a
> client at which point documentation will be available. It's actually not
> that difficult.
>
>
>
> In connection to this, can a merchant readily
> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
> their own CSS, and drop it in place?
>
>
> NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and
> Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish
> application; different database with different products; different CSS;
> different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the
CSS

> we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being
> morphed by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.
>
>
> And also concernig this, what do
> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.
>
>
> NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights:
> we use sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be
> overridden in the Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have
> friendly URL's built into the solution.
>
>
>
> One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The
> digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on
> your detailed requirements.
>
>
>
> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>
>
> NICK: I know we've talked about having a public read-only SVN available on
> the site. I'll follow-up with the techs. Shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On 5/7/2013 2:21 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
>
>  Hi Nick,
>>
>> Impressive!
>>
>> Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
>> only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
>> that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
>> interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
>> hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
>> inventory, accounting and project management features).
>>
>> Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
>> instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
>> wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
>> the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
>> connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
>> sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
>> bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
>> hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
>> ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
>> their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
>> websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
>> different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
>> they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
>> you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
>> you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
>> pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
>> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
>> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
>> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
>> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
>> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
>> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
>> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
>> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>>
>> Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
>> involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
>> acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
>> running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
>> in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
>> (Or should I have read further in that documentation?)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>>>
>>> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>>>
>>> Fashion House eCommerce:
>>>
<a href="http://bigfish.solveda.com:**8082/online/shop/main">http://bigfish.solveda.com:**8082/online/shop/main<http://bigfish.solveda.co
m:8082/online/shop/main>
>>> Fashion House Admin Module:
>>>
<a href="https://bigfish.solveda.com:**8442/osafe-admin/control/main">https://bigfish.solveda.com:**8442/osafe-admin/control/main<https://bigfish.
solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main>

>>>      (login is admin/ofbiz)
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>> [hidden email]
>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>> www.solveda.com
>>>
>>> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is bigfish?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    All,
>>>>>
>>>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>>>> live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more
>>>>> interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>>    * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>>>>      www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>>>    * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>>>>      with the "1800athlete" site
>>>>>    * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>>>>      BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>>>        o single database to support both sites
>>>>>        o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>>>        o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>>>>          separate product catalog
>>>>>        o no additional programming was required to build
>>>>>          www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>>>>          configuration and it's a go!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with
hardly

>>>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have
>>>>> very
>>>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information about BigFish check out
>>>>> http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>>>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>>>> www.solveda.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>


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Ted Byers
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Hi Nick,

I have been going crazy since our last exchange.  I am curious as to
whether or not you have found any answers to my etext/Wordpress
question.

And I have another question.  I plan on experimenting with a new
method of fraud prevention, involving client side certificates, and
using JavaScript to have a user digitally sign and encrypt a sales
agreement using his or her private key, and send that back in an
extra, hidden field in the checkout form.  That the client signed it,
and not someone else, can then be confirmed using the usual methods in
PKI systems.  Do you have any thoughts on a) configuring OFBiz/BigFish
to support use of client side certificates when they're available, and
b) adding the JavaScript I require to the checkout form?  This
provides both non-repudiation for both parties to the transaction and
security, so the client can rest assured that the details of the
transaction will not be altered once he or she has accepted it: the
objective being to protect both the merchant and consumer from fraud.
How easy, or difficult would you say this is likely to be?

Thanks

Ted

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Nick Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ted,
>
> You're welcome. Let me mull over your electronic text / Wordpress query ...
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> *Nick Rosser*
> [hidden email]
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
>
> On 5/7/2013 3:36 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
>>
>> I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
>> forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
>> the time taken to write it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted



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Nick Rosser-2
Ted,

Crazy is not good :-)

I did a little more thinking about your issue -- although I don't think
I'm knowledgeable enough with WordPress and other solutions to give a
great answer. Maybe others here have more experience with digital content.

Your main issue as I recall was being able to have rich content managed
in Wordpress and then allowing for "snippets" to be shown on an eComm /
OFBiz / BigFish site. This could be accomplished by using the content
entities in OFBiz but that would mean you would have to store content in
both Wordpress and OFB. Perhaps having a web-service that exposes the
content from Wordpress be used at runtime to pull dynamic content into a
Product Detail Page would work for you? The devil is always in the
details with this sort of thing. At the end of day you have a Wordpress
solution that's great for publishing, managing subscribers etc but no
shopping cart. And you have OFBiz/BigFish that is great for eCommerce
but not great for the publishing stuff. Using best-of-breed and
seamlessly integrating between the two may just be challenging.

On the client-side certificate that's definitely above my pay grade ...
again others may be able to help.

Nick

On 5/16/2013 2:46 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> I have been going crazy since our last exchange.  I am curious as to
> whether or not you have found any answers to my etext/Wordpress
> question.
>
> And I have another question.  I plan on experimenting with a new
> method of fraud prevention, involving client side certificates, and
> using JavaScript to have a user digitally sign and encrypt a sales
> agreement using his or her private key, and send that back in an
> extra, hidden field in the checkout form.  That the client signed it,
> and not someone else, can then be confirmed using the usual methods in
> PKI systems.  Do you have any thoughts on a) configuring OFBiz/BigFish
> to support use of client side certificates when they're available, and
> b) adding the JavaScript I require to the checkout form?  This
> provides both non-repudiation for both parties to the transaction and
> security, so the client can rest assured that the details of the
> transaction will not be altered once he or she has accepted it: the
> objective being to protect both the merchant and consumer from fraud.
> How easy, or difficult would you say this is likely to be?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Nick Rosser<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> Ted,
>>
>> You're welcome. Let me mull over your electronic text / Wordpress query ...
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> *Nick Rosser*
>> [hidden email]
>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>> www.solveda.com
>>
>> On 5/7/2013 3:36 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
>>> I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
>>> forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
>>> the time taken to write it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ted
>
>
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OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.IHateStevenSinger.com

Nick Rosser-2
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All,

I'm pleased to announce that the latest OFBiz / BigFish implementation
is now live.

Check out www.ihatestevensinger.com.

Steven Singer is the leading jeweler is in the renowned Diamond District
of Philadelphia (the oldest diamond district in the US). The new site
enhances the quirky brand for Steven Singer and sets them apart from
many of the plain vanilla jewelry online sites. As well as all the
standard features of BigFish, the Steven Singer site had some special
requirements that were integrated back into  the BigFish platform:

  * RWD (Responsive Web Design)
      o the site is fully responsive and designed to work on devices of
        all sizes
      o workstations, tablet and smart phones all provide a easy-to-use
        interface
      o the best way to see this in action is to resize your browser
        when viewing the site
  * Custom Attributes for registration
      o we developed a flexible way for the configuration of the
        registration form
      o so Steven Singer can prompt for wedding date, ring size etc on
        registration
      o and, for example, other retailers can configure this to prompt
        for attributes relevant to their business
  * Gift Card redemptions on check out
      o integration with TenderCard to redeem and gift card dollars
        available
  * Gift Card messages
      o ability for customers to enter a custom gift card message for
        all product purchased
  * Live Chat, integration
      o Live Person integration
  * Pixel marketing tagging
      o Ability to include custom pixels for specific pages for
        marketing purposes (retargeting etc)
  * Multiple Shipping Addresses
      o One of the more challenging features is to allow for a single
        checkout workflow with the ability to ship product(s) to
        multiple addresses
      o Has appropriate shipping charge, and tax calculation based on
        destination addresses

The site is tuned to perform with average daily visitors in the ~4000
range with an expectation of peak traffic at 10,000 visitors per day as
we get closer to Valentine's Day. Sales are running about 10% higher
than this time last year!

For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.

Nick

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