OFBiz & Gradle building OFBiz

[Pierre Smits]

Hi all,

I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works and
how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some questions.
So I hope someone will help me a bit.

How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable (the
jar file)?


Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

[taher]

Hi Pierre,

Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an alternative
answer?

Taher Alkhateeb

On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works and
> how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some questions.
> So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>
> How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable (the
> jar file)?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Taher,

Thanks for your quick response.

The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
and procedures.
This entails (amongst others):

   - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
   environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
   ajp port.
   - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through services
   (rc scripts) and chron jobs
   - no downloading of software etc from within the server
   - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside in
   the production environment.

I trust that answers your question.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an alternative
> answer?
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works and
> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
> questions.
> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> >
> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable
> (the
> > jar file)?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools like
Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.

Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:

   - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
   - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
   residing in applications

Best regards,


Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> Thanks for your quick response.
>
> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
> and procedures.
> This entails (amongst others):
>
>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
>    ajp port.
>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside in
>    the production environment.
>
> I trust that answers your question.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pierre,
>>
>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an alternative
>> answer?
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works
>> and
>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
>> questions.
>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>> >
>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable
>> (the
>> > jar file)?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Pierre Smits
>> >
>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>> >
>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> >
>>
>
>

[taher]

Hi Pierre,

Okay I'll try to answer and provide as much relevant information as I can.

- So first, the system currently does create a jar file in /build/libs. The
name of the jar is the name of the project (currently defaulting to the
folder name). You can run the system by typing java -cp
build/libs/jarname.jar org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar
directly.
- However, it is better to avoid using the jar file directly. Because
Gradle is a full programming language + DSL and is therefore a fundamental
part of the framework solution. Your best bet is to talk to OFBiz always
through Gradle and avoid using it directly.
- Hmmmm, the point about not downloading the libraries is a little
challenging. Maybe one solution is to copy your $HOME/.gradle directory to
the production environment which contains all the dependencies. But anytime
you make a dependency change then you need to copy it again.
- the rc scripts are really nothing but bash scripts that call your java
-jar under the hood right? So the solution very simply is to change the rc
scripts to call gradle instead. This is one of the tasks for a WIP of
fixing everything in /tools.

Does that help? any other logistical problems? BTW this is very good
feedback we need that kind of stuff for deployment fine-tuning. I heard
others ask similar questions.

Regards,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools like
> Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>
> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>
>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
>    residing in applications
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Taher,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick response.
> >
> > The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
> > hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
> > and procedures.
> > This entails (amongst others):
> >
> >    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
> >    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the
> designated
> >    ajp port.
> >    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
> >    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> >    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> >    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside in
> >    the production environment.
> >
> > I trust that answers your question.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Pierre,
> >>
> >> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
> alternative
> >> answer?
> >>
> >> Taher Alkhateeb
> >>
> >> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works
> >> and
> >> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
> >> questions.
> >> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> >> >
> >> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable
> >> (the
> >> > jar file)?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Pierre Smits
> >> >
> >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> >
> >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hence why I created:


   - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
   - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder structure
   - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools like
> Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>
> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>
>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
>    residing in applications
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Taher,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>
>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
>> and procedures.
>> This entails (amongst others):
>>
>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
>>    ajp port.
>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside
>>    in the production environment.
>>
>> I trust that answers your question.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an alternative
>>> answer?
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works
>>> and
>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
>>> questions.
>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>>> >
>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz executable
>>> (the
>>> > jar file)?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
>>> > Pierre Smits
>>> >
>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>>> >
>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

[Pierre Smits]

Taher,

Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by constraints, so
the deployment process must bring all required elements together in to
something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
package or binary release.

In this deployment process this also means that everything not needed in
the production environment must be removed:

   - java source code
   - build definition files
   - the OFBiz data sets
   - etc

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hence why I created:
>
>
>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder structure
>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools
>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>>
>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>>
>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
>>    residing in applications
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Taher,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>>
>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
>>> and procedures.
>>> This entails (amongst others):
>>>
>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
>>>    ajp port.
>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside
>>>    in the production environment.
>>>
>>> I trust that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>
>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
>>>> alternative
>>>> answer?
>>>>
>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation works
>>>> and
>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
>>>> questions.
>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>>>> >
>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
>>>> executable (the
>>>> > jar file)?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Pierre Smits
>>>> >
>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>> >
>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Taher,

Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools folder,
but that works through the gradle build proces. And building is something
that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to meet SLAs they are
optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Taher,
>
> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by constraints, so
> the deployment process must bring all required elements together in to
> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
> package or binary release.
>
> In this deployment process this also means that everything not needed in
> the production environment must be removed:
>
>    - java source code
>    - build definition files
>    - the OFBiz data sets
>    - etc
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hence why I created:
>>
>>
>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder structure
>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools
>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>>>
>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>>>
>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
>>>    residing in applications
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>
>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Taher,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>>>
>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
>>>> and procedures.
>>>> This entails (amongst others):
>>>>
>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
>>>>    ajp port.
>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the reside
>>>>    in the production environment.
>>>>
>>>> I trust that answers your question.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>
>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> answer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation
>>>>> works and
>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
>>>>> questions.
>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
>>>>> executable (the
>>>>> > jar file)?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Pierre Smits
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>> >
>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Pierre Smits]

Taher,

Have a look at:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747

It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but also
transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their type
nor by name.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools
> folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And building is
> something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to meet SLAs
> they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Taher,
>>
>> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by constraints, so
>> the deployment process must bring all required elements together in to
>> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
>> package or binary release.
>>
>> In this deployment process this also means that everything not needed in
>> the production environment must be removed:
>>
>>    - java source code
>>    - build definition files
>>    - the OFBiz data sets
>>    - etc
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hence why I created:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
>>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder structure
>>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>
>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools
>>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>>>>
>>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>>>>
>>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
>>>>    residing in applications
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>
>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Taher,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options in
>>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC policies
>>>>> and procedures.
>>>>> This entails (amongst others):
>>>>>
>>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
>>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the designated
>>>>>    ajp port.
>>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
>>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the
>>>>>    reside in the production environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I trust that answers your question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>
>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>> answer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation
>>>>>> works and
>>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
>>>>>> executable (the
>>>>>> > jar file)?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Pierre Smits
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[taher]

Hi Pierre,

The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For example
the postgresql jar on my computer is
./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar


Regards,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Taher,
>
> Have a look at:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
>
> It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but also
> transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their type
> nor by name.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Taher,
> >
> > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools
> > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And building is
> > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to meet SLAs
> > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Taher,
> >>
> >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by constraints, so
> >> the deployment process must bring all required elements together in to
> >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
> >> package or binary release.
> >>
> >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not needed in
> >> the production environment must be removed:
> >>
> >>    - java source code
> >>    - build definition files
> >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> >>    - etc
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Pierre Smits
> >>
> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>
> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hence why I created:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
> structure
> >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Pierre Smits
> >>>
> >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>
> >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build tools
> >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> >>>>
> >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
> >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party libraries
> >>>>    residing in applications
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>
> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>
> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Taher,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options
> in
> >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC
> policies
> >>>>> and procedures.
> >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the server
> >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the
> designated
> >>>>>    ajp port.
> >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
> >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the
> >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
> >>>>>> alternative
> >>>>>> answer?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > Hi all,
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation
> >>>>>> works and
> >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
> >>>>>> questions.
> >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
> >>>>>> executable (the
> >>>>>> > jar file)?
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Best regards,
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hmm.

It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.

This is what I have in the directory:

Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7

postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom

And the pom file contains:

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<project>

  <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>

  <groupId>postgresql</groupId>

  <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>

  <packaging>jar</packaging>

  <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>

  <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>

  <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>

  <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>

  <licenses>

    <license>

      <name>BSD License</name>

      <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>

      <distribution>repo</distribution>

    </license>

  </licenses>

</project>


I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.


Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For example
> the postgresql jar on my computer is
>
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Taher,
> >
> > Have a look at:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> >
> > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but also
> > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their type
> > nor by name.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Taher,
> > >
> > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools
> > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And building is
> > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to meet
> SLAs
> > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >
> > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Taher,
> > >>
> > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by constraints,
> so
> > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements together in to
> > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
> > >> package or binary release.
> > >>
> > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not needed
> in
> > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > >>
> > >>    - java source code
> > >>    - build definition files
> > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > >>    - etc
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Pierre Smits
> > >>
> > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>
> > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hence why I created:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
> > structure
> > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>
> > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>
> > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build
> tools
> > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
> > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
> libraries
> > >>>>    residing in applications
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>
> > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my options
> > in
> > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC
> > policies
> > >>>>> and procedures.
> > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the
> server
> > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz: the
> > designated
> > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than through
> > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the
> > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
> > >>>>>> alternative
> > >>>>>> answer?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle implementation
> > >>>>>> works and
> > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have some
> > >>>>>> questions.
> > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
> > >>>>>> executable (the
> > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

[taher]

find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"

On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hmm.
>
> It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
>
> This is what I have in the directory:
>
> Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
>
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
>
> postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
>
> And the pom file contains:
>
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
> <project>
>
>   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
>
>   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
>
>   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
>
>   <packaging>jar</packaging>
>
>   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
>
>   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
>
>   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
>
>   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
>
>   <licenses>
>
>     <license>
>
>       <name>BSD License</name>
>
>       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
>
>       <distribution>repo</distribution>
>
>     </license>
>
>   </licenses>
>
> </project>
>
>
> I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> [hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For example
> > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Taher Alkhateeb
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Taher,
> > >
> > > Have a look at:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> > >
> > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but also
> > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their
> type
> > > nor by name.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >
> > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Taher,
> > > >
> > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools
> > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And building
> is
> > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to meet
> > SLAs
> > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Taher,
> > > >>
> > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> constraints,
> > so
> > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements together in
> to
> > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the convenience
> > > >> package or binary release.
> > > >>
> > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not
> needed
> > in
> > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > > >>
> > > >>    - java source code
> > > >>    - build definition files
> > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > > >>    - etc
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Pierre Smits
> > > >>
> > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >>
> > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hence why I created:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
> > > structure
> > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Pierre Smits
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build
> > tools
> > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
> > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
> > libraries
> > > >>>>    residing in applications
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my
> options
> > > in
> > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC
> > > policies
> > > >>>>> and procedures.
> > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the
> > server
> > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz:
> the
> > > designated
> > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than
> through
> > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the
> > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
> > > >>>>>> alternative
> > > >>>>>> answer?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]
> >
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> implementation
> > > >>>>>> works and
> > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have
> some
> > > >>>>>> questions.
> > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
> > > >>>>>> executable (the
> > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Thanks.

In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:

./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar

So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder and a
jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging to do. :(

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
>
> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hmm.
> >
> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
> >
> > This is what I have in the directory:
> >
> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
> >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
> >
> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
> >
> > And the pom file contains:
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> >
> > <project>
> >
> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> >
> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
> >
> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
> >
> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
> >
> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
> >
> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
> >
> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
> >
> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
> >
> >   <licenses>
> >
> >     <license>
> >
> >       <name>BSD License</name>
> >
> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
> >
> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
> >
> >     </license>
> >
> >   </licenses>
> >
> > </project>
> >
> >
> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > [hidden email]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Pierre,
> > >
> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For
> example
> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> > >
> > >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Taher,
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> > > >
> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but also
> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their
> > type
> > > > nor by name.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Taher,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the tools
> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And
> building
> > is
> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to
> meet
> > > SLAs
> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >
> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Taher,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> > constraints,
> > > so
> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements together
> in
> > to
> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
> convenience
> > > > >> package or binary release.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not
> > needed
> > > in
> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    - java source code
> > > > >>    - build definition files
> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > > > >>    - etc
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Pierre Smits
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >>
> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
> > > > structure
> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build
> > > tools
> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
> > > libraries
> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my
> > options
> > > > in
> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of GRC
> > > > policies
> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the
> > > server
> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz:
> > the
> > > > designated
> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than
> > through
> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when the
> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
> > > > >>>>>> alternative
> > > > >>>>>> answer?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> > implementation
> > > > >>>>>> works and
> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have
> > some
> > > > >>>>>> questions.
> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Taher,

You said: 'You can run the system by typing java -cp build/libs/jarname.jar
org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar directly.

I tried:

java -cp build/libs/ofbiz-gradle.jar org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start

I guess that 'ofbiz-gradle.jar' is the 'jarname.jar' you mentioned.

But that resulted in:

Error: Could not find or load main class org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start


Best regards,


Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:
>
>
> ./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
>
> So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder and a
> jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging to do. :(
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm.
>> >
>> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
>> >
>> > This is what I have in the directory:
>> >
>> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
>> >
>> >
>> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
>> >
>> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
>> >
>> > And the pom file contains:
>> >
>> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
>> >
>> > <project>
>> >
>> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
>> >
>> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
>> >
>> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
>> >
>> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
>> >
>> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
>> >
>> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
>> >
>> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
>> >
>> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
>> >
>> >   <licenses>
>> >
>> >     <license>
>> >
>> >       <name>BSD License</name>
>> >
>> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
>> >
>> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
>> >
>> >     </license>
>> >
>> >   </licenses>
>> >
>> > </project>
>> >
>> >
>> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Pierre Smits
>> >
>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>> >
>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>> > [hidden email]
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Pierre,
>> > >
>> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For
>> example
>> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Taher Alkhateeb
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Taher,
>> > > >
>> > > > Have a look at:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
>> > > >
>> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but
>> also
>> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by their
>> > type
>> > > > nor by name.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Pierre Smits
>> > > >
>> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > >
>> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Taher,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the
>> tools
>> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And
>> building
>> > is
>> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to
>> meet
>> > > SLAs
>> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Pierre Smits
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >
>> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
>> > [hidden email]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Taher,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
>> > constraints,
>> > > so
>> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements together
>> in
>> > to
>> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
>> convenience
>> > > > >> package or binary release.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not
>> > needed
>> > > in
>> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>    - java source code
>> > > > >>    - build definition files
>> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
>> > > > >>    - etc
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Best regards,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Pierre Smits
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
>> > [hidden email]
>> > > >
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
>> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
>> > > > structure
>> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files appear
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
>> > > [hidden email]>
>> > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based build
>> > > tools
>> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the application
>> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
>> > > libraries
>> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
>> > > [hidden email]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my
>> > options
>> > > > in
>> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of
>> GRC
>> > > > policies
>> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
>> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access the
>> > > server
>> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of OFBiz:
>> > the
>> > > > designated
>> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
>> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than
>> > through
>> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
>> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
>> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when
>> the
>> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide an
>> > > > >>>>>> alternative
>> > > > >>>>>> answer?
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
>> [hidden email]
>> > >
>> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
>> > implementation
>> > > > >>>>>> works and
>> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still have
>> > some
>> > > > >>>>>> questions.
>> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the ofbiz
>> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
>> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

[taher]

Hi Pierre,

Maybe try it without the word apache because you're on an older revision?

On Jul 16, 2016 9:10 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> You said: 'You can run the system by typing java -cp build/libs/jarname.jar
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar directly.
>
> I tried:
>
> java -cp build/libs/ofbiz-gradle.jar org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
>
> I guess that 'ofbiz-gradle.jar' is the 'jarname.jar' you mentioned.
>
> But that resulted in:
>
> Error: Could not find or load main class org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:
> >
> >
> >
> ./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> >
> > So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder and a
> > jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging to do.
> :(
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
> >>
> >> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm.
> >> >
> >> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
> >> >
> >> > This is what I have in the directory:
> >> >
> >> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
> >> >
> >> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
> >> >
> >> > And the pom file contains:
> >> >
> >> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> >> >
> >> > <project>
> >> >
> >> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> >> >
> >> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
> >> >
> >> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
> >> >
> >> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
> >> >
> >> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
> >> >
> >> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
> >> >
> >> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
> >> >
> >> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
> >> >
> >> >   <licenses>
> >> >
> >> >     <license>
> >> >
> >> >       <name>BSD License</name>
> >> >
> >> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
> >> >
> >> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
> >> >
> >> >     </license>
> >> >
> >> >   </licenses>
> >> >
> >> > </project>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Pierre Smits
> >> >
> >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> >
> >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Pierre,
> >> > >
> >> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For
> >> example
> >> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Taher,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Have a look at:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but
> >> also
> >> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by
> their
> >> > type
> >> > > > nor by name.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Pierre Smits
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > >
> >> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
> >> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Taher,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the
> >> tools
> >> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And
> >> building
> >> > is
> >> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order to
> >> meet
> >> > > SLAs
> >> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> >> > [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Taher,
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> >> > constraints,
> >> > > so
> >> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements
> together
> >> in
> >> > to
> >> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
> >> convenience
> >> > > > >> package or binary release.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything not
> >> > needed
> >> > > in
> >> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>    - java source code
> >> > > > >>    - build definition files
> >> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> >> > > > >>    - etc
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Best regards,
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz folder
> >> > > > structure
> >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files
> appear
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Best regards,
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> >> > > [hidden email]>
> >> > > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based
> build
> >> > > tools
> >> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the
> application
> >> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
> >> > > libraries
> >> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Best regards,
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> >> > > [hidden email]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in my
> >> > options
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result of
> >> GRC
> >> > > > policies
> >> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
> >> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access
> the
> >> > > server
> >> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of
> OFBiz:
> >> > the
> >> > > > designated
> >> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> >> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than
> >> > through
> >> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> >> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> >> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers when
> >> the
> >> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> >> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can provide
> an
> >> > > > >>>>>> alternative
> >> > > > >>>>>> answer?
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
> >> [hidden email]
> >> > >
> >> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> >> > implementation
> >> > > > >>>>>> works and
> >> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still
> have
> >> > some
> >> > > > >>>>>> questions.
> >> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the
> ofbiz
> >> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
> >> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> > > > >>>>>> >
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Taher,

Bringing the dev environment up to the latest revision did the trick.
Thanks!

Even

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Maybe try it without the word apache because you're on an older revision?
>
> On Jul 16, 2016 9:10 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Taher,
> >
> > You said: 'You can run the system by typing java -cp
> build/libs/jarname.jar
> > org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar directly.
> >
> > I tried:
> >
> > java -cp build/libs/ofbiz-gradle.jar org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> >
> > I guess that 'ofbiz-gradle.jar' is the 'jarname.jar' you mentioned.
> >
> > But that resulted in:
> >
> > Error: Could not find or load main class
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > >
> > > So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder and
> a
> > > jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging to
> do.
> > :(
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >
> > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hmm.
> > >> >
> > >> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
> > >> >
> > >> > This is what I have in the directory:
> > >> >
> > >> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
> > >> >
> > >> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
> > >> >
> > >> > And the pom file contains:
> > >> >
> > >> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > >> >
> > >> > <project>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
> > >> >
> > >> >   <licenses>
> > >> >
> > >> >     <license>
> > >> >
> > >> >       <name>BSD License</name>
> > >> >
> > >> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
> > >> >
> > >> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
> > >> >
> > >> >     </license>
> > >> >
> > >> >   </licenses>
> > >> >
> > >> > </project>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Best regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Pierre Smits
> > >> >
> > >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> >
> > >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >> > [hidden email]
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Pierre,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For
> > >> example
> > >> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > [hidden email]
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Taher,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Have a look at:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars, but
> > >> also
> > >> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by
> > their
> > >> > type
> > >> > > > nor by name.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Best regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Pierre Smits
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > >> [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Taher,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in the
> > >> tools
> > >> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And
> > >> building
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order
> to
> > >> meet
> > >> > > SLAs
> > >> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum performance.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Best regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > >> > [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Taher,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> > >> > constraints,
> > >> > > so
> > >> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements
> > together
> > >> in
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
> > >> convenience
> > >> > > > >> package or binary release.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything
> not
> > >> > needed
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>    - java source code
> > >> > > > >>    - build definition files
> > >> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > >> > > > >>    - etc
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Best regards,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > >> > [hidden email]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz
> folder
> > >> > > > structure
> > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files
> > appear
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> Best regards,
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > >> > > [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > >>> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based
> > build
> > >> > > tools
> > >> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the
> > application
> > >> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd party
> > >> > > libraries
> > >> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > >> > > [hidden email]
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in
> my
> > >> > options
> > >> > > > in
> > >> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result
> of
> > >> GRC
> > >> > > > policies
> > >> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
> > >> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to access
> > the
> > >> > > server
> > >> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of
> > OFBiz:
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > designated
> > >> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > >> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other than
> > >> > through
> > >> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > >> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the server
> > >> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers
> when
> > >> the
> > >> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can
> provide
> > an
> > >> > > > >>>>>> alternative
> > >> > > > >>>>>> answer?
> > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
> > >> [hidden email]
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> > >> > implementation
> > >> > > > >>>>>> works and
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I still
> > have
> > >> > some
> > >> > > > >>>>>> questions.
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the
> > ofbiz
> > >> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[taher]

Hi Pierre,

By the way if you don't want to / cannot copy the .gradle folder then I'm
afraid you have to build a new jar yourself because the generated Jar
contains the absolute Class-Path entries for all other jars required. If
you want to put them in a different folder then you have to regenerate the
Jar with the correct classpath entries (or alternatively include them in
your -cp arguments). It's a few lines of code in Gradle but you should be
familiar with configurations and iterations and some closure logic. So I
think your safest bet is to just copy the .gradle folder to your production
environment.

With that being said, I find the requirements for your production
environment quite draconian! I haven't seen anything like that before. I
can spin off a droplet in DigitalOcean for 10$ a month that can do pretty
much everything I need. If you're not stuck with them I think it would be a
good idea to consider other vendors.

Regrads,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> Bringing the dev environment up to the latest revision did the trick.
> Thanks!
>
> Even
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> [hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > Maybe try it without the word apache because you're on an older revision?
> >
> > On Jul 16, 2016 9:10 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Taher,
> > >
> > > You said: 'You can run the system by typing java -cp
> > build/libs/jarname.jar
> > > org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar directly.
> > >
> > > I tried:
> > >
> > > java -cp build/libs/ofbiz-gradle.jar org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> > >
> > > I guess that 'ofbiz-gradle.jar' is the 'jarname.jar' you mentioned.
> > >
> > > But that resulted in:
> > >
> > > Error: Could not find or load main class
> > org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >
> > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > > >
> > > > So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder
> and
> > a
> > > > jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging to
> > do.
> > > :(
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hmm.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This is what I have in the directory:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
> > > >> >
> > > >> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And the pom file contains:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > <project>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   <licenses>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >     <license>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >       <name>BSD License</name>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >     </license>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   </licenses>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > </project>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Pierre Smits
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> >
> > > >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > >> > [hidden email]
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Pierre,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name. For
> > > >> example
> > > >> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regards,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Taher,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Have a look at:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars,
> but
> > > >> also
> > > >> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not by
> > > their
> > > >> > type
> > > >> > > > nor by name.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Best regards,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi Taher,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in
> the
> > > >> tools
> > > >> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces. And
> > > >> building
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In order
> > to
> > > >> meet
> > > >> > > SLAs
> > > >> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum
> performance.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >> Taher,
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> > > >> > constraints,
> > > >> > > so
> > > >> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements
> > > together
> > > >> in
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
> > > >> convenience
> > > >> > > > >> package or binary release.
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that everything
> > not
> > > >> > needed
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >>    - java source code
> > > >> > > > >>    - build definition files
> > > >> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > > >> > > > >>    - etc
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > >> > [hidden email]
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz
> > folder
> > > >> > > > structure
> > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files
> > > appear
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > >> > > [hidden email]>
> > > >> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java based
> > > build
> > > >> > > tools
> > > >> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar too.
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the
> > > application
> > > >> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd
> party
> > > >> > > libraries
> > > >> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > >> > > [hidden email]
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited in
> > my
> > > >> > options
> > > >> > > > in
> > > >> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a result
> > of
> > > >> GRC
> > > >> > > > policies
> > > >> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
> > > >> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to
> access
> > > the
> > > >> > > server
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case of
> > > OFBiz:
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > designated
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other
> than
> > > >> > through
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the
> server
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers
> > when
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > >> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can
> > provide
> > > an
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> alternative
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> answer?
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
> > > >> [hidden email]
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> > > >> > implementation
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> works and
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I
> still
> > > have
> > > >> > some
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> questions.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate the
> > > ofbiz
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > >> > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Pierre Smits]

Taher,

It is not the vendor of hosting services dictating the GRC policies and
procedures IT organisations and/or (implementation) service providers
(consultants, developers, etc) need to adhere to. They merely convey the
boundaries they operate in and have a price for their services that is
based on the risk they run and can divide amongst their customers and the
influences of the market.

GRC policies and procedures are dictated and upheld by the companies that
employ an DEVOPS staff, or buy external services. Maybe you haven't had the
opportunity to work in/with organisations who have certified their
processes. And any company is different in how they assess, address and
mitigate the risks that threaten their reputation and the underlying
existence of the company. But it leads to the reason why SLAs (e.g.
regarding uptime and performance) exists.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> By the way if you don't want to / cannot copy the .gradle folder then I'm
> afraid you have to build a new jar yourself because the generated Jar
> contains the absolute Class-Path entries for all other jars required. If
> you want to put them in a different folder then you have to regenerate the
> Jar with the correct classpath entries (or alternatively include them in
> your -cp arguments). It's a few lines of code in Gradle but you should be
> familiar with configurations and iterations and some closure logic. So I
> think your safest bet is to just copy the .gradle folder to your production
> environment.
>
> With that being said, I find the requirements for your production
> environment quite draconian! I haven't seen anything like that before. I
> can spin off a droplet in DigitalOcean for 10$ a month that can do pretty
> much everything I need. If you're not stuck with them I think it would be a
> good idea to consider other vendors.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Taher,
> >
> > Bringing the dev environment up to the latest revision did the trick.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Even
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > [hidden email]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Pierre,
> > >
> > > Maybe try it without the word apache because you're on an older
> revision?
> > >
> > > On Jul 16, 2016 9:10 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Taher,
> > > >
> > > > You said: 'You can run the system by typing java -cp
> > > build/libs/jarname.jar
> > > > org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start or running the jar directly.
> > > >
> > > > I tried:
> > > >
> > > > java -cp build/libs/ofbiz-gradle.jar
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> > > >
> > > > I guess that 'ofbiz-gradle.jar' is the 'jarname.jar' you mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > But that resulted in:
> > > >
> > > > Error: Could not find or load main class
> > > org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Pierre Smits <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > In a wadload of postgresql jars found I got:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ./Users/pierre/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > > > >
> > > > > So that adds to the traceability issue I have. A pom in one folder
> > and
> > > a
> > > > > jar in another, no apparent relation and no logging. More digging
> to
> > > do.
> > > > :(
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >
> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> find . -iname "*postgres*.jar"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Jul 16, 2016 7:50 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hmm.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It seems I overlooked that it was a directory.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This is what I have in the directory:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Pierres-MacBook-Pro:files-2.1 pierre$ ls
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/58952dea25c6251a7666d8eea01e4a31da0f8cf7
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.pom
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And the pom file contains:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > <project>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <groupId>postgresql</groupId>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <artifactId>postgresql</artifactId>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <packaging>jar</packaging>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <name>PostgreSQL JDBC Driver</name>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <version>9.0-801.jdbc4</version>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org</url>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <description>The PostgreSQL Driver JDBC4</description>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   <licenses>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >     <license>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >       <name>BSD License</name>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >       <url>http://jdbc.postgresql.org/license.html</url>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >       <distribution>repo</distribution>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >     </license>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >   </licenses>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > </project>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I am yet to find the actual jar on my Mac.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best regards,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Pierre Smits
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > > >> > [hidden email]
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi Pierre,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The jar name is there, what is hashed is the directory name.
> For
> > > > >> example
> > > > >> > > the postgresql jar on my computer is
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ./caches/modules-2/files-2.1/postgresql/postgresql/9.0-801.jdbc4/153f2f92a786f12fc111d0111f709012df87c808/postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Regards,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Taher,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Have a look at:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7783?focusedCommentId=15380747&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15380747
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > It appears that the build proces doesn't only copy the jars,
> > but
> > > > >> also
> > > > >> > > > transforms them. The files stored aren't recognisable. Not
> by
> > > > their
> > > > >> > type
> > > > >> > > > nor by name.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Best regards,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Hi Taher,
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Jacques already implemented a change to the rc scripts in
> > the
> > > > >> tools
> > > > >> > > > > folder, but that works through the gradle build proces.
> And
> > > > >> building
> > > > >> > is
> > > > >> > > > > something that isn't allowed on production servers. In
> order
> > > to
> > > > >> meet
> > > > >> > > SLAs
> > > > >> > > > > they are optimized to maximum uptime and maximum
> > performance.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >> Taher,
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> Deployment is very controlled process/procedure bound by
> > > > >> > constraints,
> > > > >> > > so
> > > > >> > > > >> the deployment process must bring all required elements
> > > > together
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > > > >> something that can be deployed. In OFBiz terminology the
> > > > >> convenience
> > > > >> > > > >> package or binary release.
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> In this deployment process this also means that
> everything
> > > not
> > > > >> > needed
> > > > >> > > in
> > > > >> > > > >> the production environment must be removed:
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >>    - java source code
> > > > >> > > > >>    - build definition files
> > > > >> > > > >>    - the OFBiz data sets
> > > > >> > > > >>    - etc
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > >> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > >> > [hidden email]
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >>> Hence why I created:
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7796 Running OFBiz as a service fails
> > > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7783 External libraries are not in the OFBiz
> > > folder
> > > > >> > > > structure
> > > > >> > > > >>>    - OFBIZ-7782 Duplicates of .properies and Label files
> > > > appear
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > >> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > >> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> I thought that Gradle was not unlike the other java
> based
> > > > build
> > > > >> > > tools
> > > > >> > > > >>>> like Ant and Maven, and that it could generate a jar
> too.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> Ohh. I forgot to mention some other requirements:
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>    - The 3rd party libraries must reside within the
> > > > application
> > > > >> > > > >>>>    - Auditors must be able to track the origin of 3rd
> > party
> > > > >> > > libraries
> > > > >> > > > >>>>    residing in applications
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > >> > > [hidden email]
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> Hi Taher,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> The reason why this is needed is because I am limited
> in
> > > my
> > > > >> > options
> > > > >> > > > in
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> hardened servers in production environments, as a
> result
> > > of
> > > > >> GRC
> > > > >> > > > policies
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> and procedures.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> This entails (amongst others):
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no ports open than those that are required to
> > access
> > > > the
> > > > >> > > server
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    environment (ssh) or the application (in the case
> of
> > > > OFBiz:
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > designated
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    ajp port.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no manual starting of stopping of services other
> > than
> > > > >> > through
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    services (rc scripts) and chron jobs
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no downloading of software etc from within the
> > server
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    - no build processes allowed on application servers
> > > when
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>    reside in the production environment.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> I trust that answers your question.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > > > >> > > > >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Hi Pierre,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Can I ask what do you want the jar for maybe I can
> > > provide
> > > > an
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> alternative
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> answer?
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:31 PM, "Pierre Smits" <
> > > > >> [hidden email]
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Hi all,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > I am still working my way through how our gradle
> > > > >> > implementation
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> works and
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > how I can apply it in a CI/CD environment. And I
> > still
> > > > have
> > > > >> > some
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> questions.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > So I hope someone will help me a bit.
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > How do I use the Gradle build process to generate
> the
> > > > ofbiz
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> executable (the
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > jar file)?
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Best regards,
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > Pierre Smits
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>