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olivier.heintz Neogia.org
Hi,

ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/

There will be 6 (or 7) presentations on OFBiz, for detail see the
schedule : http://www.apachecon.eu/schedule

Presentation Goal will be for OFbiz user and/or OFBiz contributor
- Nov. 7, 2012  from 12:15pm to 1:00pm : Addons goals Howto use, Howto
manage done by Nicolas Malin
  this presentation of what exist will introduce a discussion during
lunch time (and after) on how facilitate "complex" contribution even if
it should not go to ofbiz trunk

- Nov. 7, 2012  from 04:45pm to 5:45pm : OFBiz - an eCommerce Solution
for mid-to-large-sized companies  done by Paul Piper
  this presentation will show ofbiz features for OFbiz beginner and
prepare discussion on how OFBiz is currently perceived and How to
simplify OfBiz for consumers and developers
- Nov. 7, 2012  from 05:45pm to 6:30pm : ofbizextra-addons, what
constrains for each repository done by Olivier Heintz
  This presentation will propose some rules for 3 repositories and gives
some example of each, it will a introduction on a more general
discussion How to increase ofbiz contributions and how to increase
contribution quality.

The two discussions will continue on a Sinsheim place (restaurant, bar,
..., not yet choose) I give you the details as soon as I have it ;-)

-  Nov. 8, 2012  from 12:30pm to 01:30pm : Multi-Store eCommerce with
Apache OFBiz done by Sebastian Leitner and Sascha Rodekamp
  This presentation will shows you, how to run multiple shops on one
instance of OFBiz.
-  Nov. 8, 2012  from 01:30pm to 02:30pm :  Multi resource Project
Scheduling with OFBiz done by Cheikh Dhib
  This presentation will show how OFBiz project component is used to
demonstrate result of a Phd thesis on "Multi-skilled resource mono-skill
task project scheduling".
   It will show how using existing tools and data available for research
or development on project (or manufacturing) scheduling.
-  Nov. 8, 2012  from 02:30pm to 0:15pm :  OFBiz CRM, presentation,
functionalities done by Nicolas Malin
  This presentation will show a ofbiz with some addons ready to use for CRM.


It's possible to organize a ofbiz hackathon, on Monday 5th November if
we are enough people : who plan to come ?
I think it's a very good place to have meeting for all European OFBiz
contributors and all the others of course but travel is more
complicated. Next ApacheCon US will be in a nice place but at a very
long distance from Europe.
I think contributions are always better when people have meet other
contributors face to face :-)

I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
- Tuesday 6th evening
- Wednesday 7th lunch Time
- Wednesday 7th evening
These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
is present.
Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which
subject would be interesting and/or important.

If you are not yet registered, it's not too late go to
http://www.apachecon.eu/tickets/ and all details to organize travel is
at http://www.apachecon.eu/venue/

See you soon at Sinsheim
Olivier






Le 16/10/2012 16:19, Nick Burch a écrit :

> Hi All
>
> As you'll hopefully all know, ApacheCon Europe kicks off in 3 weesk
> time! There are a couple of ways for your community to get involved in
> events at the conference, which we're hoping many of you can take
> advantage of. In short - hackathon, and evening events.
>
> First up, on Monday 5th November, we're holding a hackathon. (Talks
> start on the Tuesday). If your hackathon will be open to
> non-committers, we want to get it listed so we can point potential new
> contributors to it. To that end, we're building a list of the planned
> hackathons, and if they're open to newcomers. So, if your project /
> community is planning to take part in the hackathon, please list
> yourselves on the wiki:
>      http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/HackathonEU12
>
> Secondly, evening events. The Monday night will feature a committers
> and hackathon welcome reception, kindly sponsored by VMWare. For the
> other nights, it's up to all of you to decide what you want to do and
> where! We have put together a list of all the possible venues (bars,
> restaurants, cafes, icecream places etc) in Sinsheim, along with their
> locations, contact details and sizes. If you community would like to
> do something one night, be that talks or just a sociable gathering,
> please pick a venue, book it and list it on the wiki page. Details on
> the venues, and planned session are all at:
>      http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ApacheMeetupsEU12
>
> Otherwise, please do continue to help publicise the event, see
> <http://www.apachecon.eu/about/publicise/> for publicity materials.
> Also, don't forget that the CFP for ApacheCon NA 2013 is open, but
> ends during ApacheCon Europe, so don't delay getting the talks in
> about your projects!
> See http://na.apachecon.com/ for details on the CFP and how to submit
>
> Thanks
> Nick
> (On behalf of the ACEU planners)

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Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Christian Geisert
Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
> Hi,
>
> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/

[..]

> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
> - Tuesday 6th evening
> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
> - Wednesday 7th evening
> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
> is present.
> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which
> subject would be interesting and/or important.

I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
details yet) and looking forward to meet you.

Christian
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Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Jacopo Cappellato-4
Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?

Thanks

Jacopo

On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:

> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>
> [..]
>
>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
>> is present.
>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which
>> subject would be interesting and/or important.
>
> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>
> Christian

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Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Sascha Rodekamp-3
Hi *,
I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim with
you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where
interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases.

The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the
listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this chance
to ask questions.

One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the
backend and the missing marketing.

We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of
interesting discussions.
Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks.

We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP.

Best regards
Sascha


2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]>

> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>
> > Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
> >> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
> >
> > [..]
> >
> >> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
> >> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
> >> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
> >> - Tuesday 6th evening
> >> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
> >> - Wednesday 7th evening
> >> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
> >> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
> >> is present.
> >> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which
> >> subject would be interesting and/or important.
> >
> > I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
> > details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
> >
> > Christian
>
>


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OFBiz Alliance and Growerp, was: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Hans Bakker
Thank you Sacha, for the report,

concerning marketing, we are trying to solve that with the ofbizalliance.com
concerning complexity we started GrowERP open source based on OFBiz at
growerp.com

things are moving slowly but hope to have the alliance website on-line
this month.
Growerp we expect to have a usable version before the end of this year

currently we have 36 companies interested in the alliance and 7
companies interested in the founding....

ofbiz alliance discussion: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4550075
(one contact per company currently)

Growerp discussion at:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-ERP-4576897
free to join.....


Regards,
Hans

On 11/12/2012 03:03 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote:

> Hi *,
> I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim with
> you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where
> interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases.
>
> The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the
> listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this chance
> to ask questions.
>
> One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the
> backend and the missing marketing.
>
> We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of
> interesting discussions.
> Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks.
>
> We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP.
>
> Best regards
> Sascha
>
>
> 2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]>
>
>> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
>>>> is present.
>>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which
>>>> subject would be interesting and/or important.
>>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>
>

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Re: OFBiz Alliance and Growerp, was: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Tri Vssic
    Keep coming, GrowERP  (mr Hans)
    Cheers

2012/11/12 Hans Bakker <[hidden email]>

> Thank you Sacha, for the report,
>
> concerning marketing, we are trying to solve that with the
> ofbizalliance.com
> concerning complexity we started GrowERP open source based on OFBiz at
> growerp.com
>
> things are moving slowly but hope to have the alliance website on-line
> this month.
> Growerp we expect to have a usable version before the end of this year
>
> currently we have 36 companies interested in the alliance and 7 companies
> interested in the founding....
>
> ofbiz alliance discussion: http://www.linkedin.com/**groups?gid=4550075<http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4550075>
> (one contact per company currently)
>
> Growerp discussion at:
> http://www.linkedin.com/**groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-**ERP-4576897<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-ERP-4576897>
> free to join.....
>
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On 11/12/2012 03:03 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote:
>
>> Hi *,
>> I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim
>> with
>> you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where
>> interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases.
>>
>> The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the
>> listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this
>> chance
>> to ask questions.
>>
>> One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the
>> backend and the missing marketing.
>>
>> We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of
>> interesting discussions.
>> Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks.
>>
>> We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sascha
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato <jacopo.cappellato@**hotwaxmedia.com<[hidden email]>
>> >
>>
>>  Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>>>
>>>  Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>>>>>
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>>  I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who
>>>>> is present.
>>>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>>>>> which
>>>>> subject would be interesting and/or important.
>>>>>
>>>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>>>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Paul Piper
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Hi guys,

Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there).

During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:

* One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
* One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
(Myself - Paul)
* One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)

As a short wrap-up to those:

OFBiz Addons:
Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
project.

General Introduction to OFBiz & target group:
I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
(developers & companies)

OFBiz Extras:
Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.

Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
material which could be used by the general public.

Cheers,
Paul


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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
An: [hidden email]
Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?

Thanks

Jacopo

On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:

> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>
> [..]
>
>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on
>> who is present.
>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>
> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>
> Christian



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Jacopo Cappellato-4
Sascha, Paul,

thanks for your interesting reports.

Jacopo

On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Paul Piper wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
> so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
> experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there).
>
> During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:
>
> * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
> * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
> (Myself - Paul)
> * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)
>
> As a short wrap-up to those:
>
> OFBiz Addons:
> Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
> developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
> Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
> merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
> was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
> manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
> not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
> well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
> project.
>
> General Introduction to OFBiz & target group:
> I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
> group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
> its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
> proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
> due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
> how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
> 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
> framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
> it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
> (developers & companies)
>
> OFBiz Extras:
> Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
> which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
> strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
> the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
> upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
> checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
> on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
> documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
> handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
> concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
> commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
> may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
> sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.
>
> Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
> private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
> implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
> agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
> material which could be used by the general public.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
>
> ---
> Paul Piper
> Geschäftsführer
>  
>  
> Web: http://www.ilscipio.com
> Tel: (+49) 611-94589441
> Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066
> Fax: (+49) 611-94589449
> eMail: [hidden email]
>
>  
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> Am Drosselschlag 7
> D-35452 Heuchelheim
> Germany
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
> An: [hidden email]
> Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
>
> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>
>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>>
>> [..]
>>
>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on
>>> who is present.
>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>>
>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>
>> Christian
>
>
>

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Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon

olivier.heintz Neogia.org
Hi,

All conference have been recorded and all slides centralized, so, some
link to be able to view each presentations will be available. The
Organization was great, thank you to them.

it should be at  http://archive.apachecon.com/eu2012/presentations/


During this ApacheCon, we had great discussion.
It's very nice to, sometime, to able to talk face to face and having
time to share ideas and to compare our activities understanding or our
way of using and contributing to OFBiz.
For this OFBiz track there was two talk type :
- realization done with ofbiz (and howto used)
  - addon manager
  - eCommerce multistore
  - CRM
- OFBiz evolution idea/proposition/discussion
  - OFBiz functions and advantages versus target group
  - OFBiz-extra for what, which quality criteria

I think it was good to have these two types, maybe a third type,
Tutorial, will be a good thing too.


Personally  I attended some Apache OpenOffice talk, because some of
their questions of AOO community are the same as ofbiz community (ex:
how to build/ to share marketing support ? does the apche solution
should be a OOTB solution or a super-framework for integrator to help us
to propose OOTB solution for their customers, ....).  Very Interesting
discussion too ;-)

and some Apache-way rules to better understanding how to better
contribute. :-)

About ApacheCon-NA,
is there a lot of  "talk proposal" proposed ?
is there some people who are already sure to attend ?

Olivier


Le 12/11/2012 10:24, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

> Sascha, Paul,
>
> thanks for your interesting reports.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Paul Piper wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
>> so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
>> experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there).
>>
>> During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:
>>
>> * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
>> * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
>> (Myself - Paul)
>> * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)
>>
>> As a short wrap-up to those:
>>
>> OFBiz Addons:
>> Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
>> developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
>> Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
>> merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
>> was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
>> manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
>> not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
>> well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
>> project.
>>
>> General Introduction to OFBiz & target group:
>> I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
>> group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
>> its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
>> proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
>> due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
>> how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
>> 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
>> framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
>> it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
>> (developers & companies)
>>
>> OFBiz Extras:
>> Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
>> which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
>> strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
>> the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
>> upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
>> checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
>> on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
>> documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
>> handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
>> concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
>> commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
>> may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
>> sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.
>>
>> Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
>> private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
>> implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
>> agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
>> material which could be used by the general public.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>
>>
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>>  
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>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
>> An: [hidden email]
>> Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
>>
>> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on
>>>> who is present.
>>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>>>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>
>>
>

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Malin Nicolas
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Thks all for your return.

I adding just tracks on lucene and solr that giva me the idea to
implement lucene to resolve on an entity by their functionnal environment.

A research on party would be use lucene to run a quick search on index
created by Party Role, Party Content, Party Identification, Party Skill,
etc ...
Same on product or WorkEffort.

For addons, I prepare to put my demo on wiki.

Nicolas

Le 12/11/2012 10:19, Paul Piper a écrit :

> Hi guys,
>
> Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
> so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
> experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there).
>
> During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:
>
> * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
> * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
> (Myself - Paul)
> * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)
>
> As a short wrap-up to those:
>
> OFBiz Addons:
> Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
> developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
> Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
> merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
> was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
> manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
> not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
> well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
> project.
>
> General Introduction to OFBiz & target group:
> I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
> group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
> its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
> proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
> due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
> how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
> 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
> framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
> it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
> (developers & companies)
>
> OFBiz Extras:
> Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
> which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
> strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
> the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
> upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
> checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
> on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
> documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
> handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
> concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
> commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
> may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
> sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.
>
> Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
> private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
> implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
> agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
> material which could be used by the general public.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
>
> ---
> Paul Piper
> Geschäftsführer
>  
>  
> Web: http://www.ilscipio.com
> Tel: (+49) 611-94589441
> Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066
> Fax: (+49) 611-94589449
> eMail: [hidden email]
>
>  
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> Am Drosselschlag 7
> D-35452 Heuchelheim
> Germany
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
> An: [hidden email]
> Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
>
> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>
>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>> [..]
>>
>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on
>>> who is present.
>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>
>> Christian
>
>


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Paul Foxworthy
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Hi Olivier and everyone,

I did some exploration to try and find the videos of the presentations. It seems to be they haven't been published yet.

However, here are the places I think we need to watch...

http://archive.apachecon.com/eu2012/presentations/07-Wednesday/L2L-Web_Infra/
http://archive.apachecon.com/eu2012/presentations/08-Thursday/L2L-Linked_Data_and_OfBiz/

If I have that wrong and they're somewhere else, or if anyone notices that content has appeared in these folders, please tell the mailing list.

Thanks

Paul Foxworthy

olivier.heintz Neogia.org wrote
Hi,

All conference have been recorded and all slides centralized, so, some
link to be able to view each presentations will be available. The
Organization was great, thank you to them.

it should be at  http://archive.apachecon.com/eu2012/presentations/


During this ApacheCon, we had great discussion.
It's very nice to, sometime, to able to talk face to face and having
time to share ideas and to compare our activities understanding or our
way of using and contributing to OFBiz.
For this OFBiz track there was two talk type :
- realization done with ofbiz (and howto used)
  - addon manager
  - eCommerce multistore
  - CRM
- OFBiz evolution idea/proposition/discussion
  - OFBiz functions and advantages versus target group
  - OFBiz-extra for what, which quality criteria

I think it was good to have these two types, maybe a third type,
Tutorial, will be a good thing too.


Personally  I attended some Apache OpenOffice talk, because some of
their questions of AOO community are the same as ofbiz community (ex:
how to build/ to share marketing support ? does the apche solution
should be a OOTB solution or a super-framework for integrator to help us
to propose OOTB solution for their customers, ....).  Very Interesting
discussion too ;-)

and some Apache-way rules to better understanding how to better
contribute. :-)

About ApacheCon-NA,
is there a lot of  "talk proposal" proposed ?
is there some people who are already sure to attend ?

Olivier


Le 12/11/2012 10:24, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
> Sascha, Paul,
>
> thanks for your interesting reports.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Paul Piper wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
>> so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
>> experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there).
>>
>> During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:
>>
>> * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
>> * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
>> (Myself - Paul)
>> * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)
>>
>> As a short wrap-up to those:
>>
>> OFBiz Addons:
>> Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
>> developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
>> Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
>> merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
>> was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
>> manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
>> not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
>> well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
>> project.
>>
>> General Introduction to OFBiz & target group:
>> I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
>> group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
>> its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
>> proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
>> due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
>> how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
>> 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
>> framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
>> it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
>> (developers & companies)
>>
>> OFBiz Extras:
>> Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
>> which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
>> strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
>> the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
>> upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
>> checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
>> on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
>> documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
>> handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
>> concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
>> commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
>> may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
>> sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.
>>
>> Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
>> private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
>> implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
>> agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
>> material which could be used by the general public.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Paul Piper
>> Geschäftsführer
>>  
>>  
>> Web: http://www.ilscipio.com
>> Tel: (+49) 611-94589441
>> Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066
>> Fax: (+49) 611-94589449
>> eMail: [hidden email]
>>
>>  
>> ilscipio GmbH
>> Am Drosselschlag 7
>> D-35452 Heuchelheim
>> Germany
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
>> An: [hidden email]
>> Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
>>
>> Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at
>>>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have
>>>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra,
>>>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>>>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>>>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>>>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>>>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of
>>>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on
>>>> who is present.
>>>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and
>>>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
>>> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the
>>> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>
>>
>
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I wrote a short (but german) review of the apachecon affair: http://www.ilscipio.com/blog/2012/11/19/apachecon-eu-ein-ruckblick/
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Ofbiz 开发
Yes I couldn't find it either...

Anyone got the link please post it. Thanks very much!

Kind Regards



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> I wrote a short (but german) review of the apachecon affair:
> http://www.ilscipio.com/blog/2012/11/19/apachecon-eu-ein-ruckblick/
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