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Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the public sector / government? Gavin |
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Hi Gavin,
I'm currently implementing ofbiz for a government project in the UK. Cheers, Chris Gavin Mabie wrote: > Hi list > > > > Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the public > sector / government? > > > > Gavin > > > |
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Anil Patel used to work for a public utility district in Washington State and introduced a number of OFBiz-based solutions there, including one to do fleet management. Hans Bakker did some stuff with this a few years ago in Thailand. A company called Integral Business Solutions did a bunch of US Air Force contracting based on OFBiz. Currently Ean Schuessler and Adam Heath of Brainfood put together a site for (if I understand it right) a US Govt lobby for open source software, and the site itself runs on OFBiz and Webslinger. It's just the site though, this isn't any sort of OFBiz lobby and the people there are generally big wigs from larger organizations pushing various different things in government. I've been contacted by a number of government contractors (typically larger organizations, or companies that specialize in govt contracting) over the years with proposals for everything from payroll and human resources for tens of thousands of people, to equipment planning and maintenance for emergencies. However, it seems like these larger contracts are a HUGE uphill battle and almost impossible to get unless you already have an "in" with the buying organization (yes, the revolving door is a HUGE deal here, and usually those who help drive industry after being in govt stick with larger companies where there is more money). Those are just off the top of my head. There are definitely various government sponsored projects that use OFBiz. Still, especially for larger projects it's tough for open source based solutions to even get a foot in the door, which I guess is what the organization the Brainfood has been working with is trying to fix. If you're hoping to get a slice of the ever-growing world-wide "economic stimulus" spending that is going on these days there may be better ways to go about it than to try to leverage open source software (unless perhaps it is the variety like RedHat Linux or OpenOffice that might have a multi-million dollar support contract to go along with it). Of course, that's just my opinion... and I'd be delighted if someone would prove me wrong! -David On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Gavin Mabie wrote: > Hi list > > > > Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the public > sector / government? > > > > Gavin > |
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David
Sadly (or fortunately) we do not fall within the "economic stimulus" domain here in South Africa. We do how ever have a huge developmental push and our young democracy (-20 years) has a long way to go in optimizing governmental administrative systems. Having worked in the public sector myself for over twenty years (some as a CIO) I have a special interest in the sector. I spent the past 16 or so months plugging away at OfBiz to see where and how it can be applied, especially given the SA government's commitment to Open Source. I will be making pitches at various local government organisations over the next few weeks - there is a strong possibility that we might get a funded pilot (hold thumbs) and will keep you up to date with developments in this regard. It nice to know that some work has been done and I can refer to these in my presentations. What happened to Open for Government - I think Hans was driving this? Cheers Gavin -----Original Message----- From: David E Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: 04 February 2010 04:48 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: OfBiz in Government Anil Patel used to work for a public utility district in Washington State and introduced a number of OFBiz-based solutions there, including one to do fleet management. Hans Bakker did some stuff with this a few years ago in Thailand. A company called Integral Business Solutions did a bunch of US Air Force contracting based on OFBiz. Currently Ean Schuessler and Adam Heath of Brainfood put together a site for (if I understand it right) a US Govt lobby for open source software, and the site itself runs on OFBiz and Webslinger. It's just the site though, this isn't any sort of OFBiz lobby and the people there are generally big wigs from larger organizations pushing various different things in government. I've been contacted by a number of government contractors (typically larger organizations, or companies that specialize in govt contracting) over the years with proposals for everything from payroll and human resources for tens of thousands of people, to equipment planning and maintenance for emergencies. However, it seems like these larger contracts are a HUGE uphill battle and almost impossible to get unless you already have an "in" with the buying organization (yes, the revolving door is a HUGE deal here, and usually those who help drive industry after being in govt stick with larger companies where there is more money). Those are just off the top of my head. There are definitely various government sponsored projects that use OFBiz. Still, especially for larger projects it's tough for open source based solutions to even get a foot in the door, which I guess is what the organization the Brainfood has been working with is trying to fix. If you're hoping to get a slice of the ever-growing world-wide "economic stimulus" spending that is going on these days there may be better ways to go about it than to try to leverage open source software (unless perhaps it is the variety like RedHat Linux or OpenOffice that might have a multi-million dollar support contract to go along with it). Of course, that's just my opinion... and I'd be delighted if someone would prove me wrong! -David On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Gavin Mabie wrote: > Hi list > > > > Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the public > sector / government? > > > > Gavin > |
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Hi Gavin,
Yes the OpenEGovernment.org site i started in 2004 when David visited Thailand for a 2 weeks course. We expected some more activities from the government here in Thailand but sadly it died. About a year ago i took the site offline...But perhaps we can start again? We are actually doing a project at the moment together with a larger Malaysian software company right now for a marketplace for the Malaysian government based on OFBiz. My experience with governments are that you have to have a pretty big software company in order to bid on a tender. Regards, Hans On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 11:29 +0200, Gavin Mabie wrote: > David > > Sadly (or fortunately) we do not fall within the "economic stimulus" domain > here in South Africa. We do how ever have a huge developmental push and our > young democracy (-20 years) has a long way to go in optimizing governmental > administrative systems. Having worked in the public sector myself for over > twenty years (some as a CIO) I have a special interest in the sector. I > spent the past 16 or so months plugging away at OfBiz to see where and how > it can be applied, especially given the SA government's commitment to Open > Source. I will be making pitches at various local government organisations > over the next few weeks - there is a strong possibility that we might get a > funded pilot (hold thumbs) and will keep you up to date with developments in > this regard. > > It nice to know that some work has been done and I can refer to these in my > presentations. What happened to Open for Government - I think Hans was > driving this? > > Cheers > > Gavin > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: 04 February 2010 04:48 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: OfBiz in Government > > > Anil Patel used to work for a public utility district in Washington State > and introduced a number of OFBiz-based solutions there, including one to do > fleet management. > > Hans Bakker did some stuff with this a few years ago in Thailand. > > A company called Integral Business Solutions did a bunch of US Air Force > contracting based on OFBiz. > > Currently Ean Schuessler and Adam Heath of Brainfood put together a site for > (if I understand it right) a US Govt lobby for open source software, and the > site itself runs on OFBiz and Webslinger. It's just the site though, this > isn't any sort of OFBiz lobby and the people there are generally big wigs > from larger organizations pushing various different things in government. > > I've been contacted by a number of government contractors (typically larger > organizations, or companies that specialize in govt contracting) over the > years with proposals for everything from payroll and human resources for > tens of thousands of people, to equipment planning and maintenance for > emergencies. However, it seems like these larger contracts are a HUGE uphill > battle and almost impossible to get unless you already have an "in" with the > buying organization (yes, the revolving door is a HUGE deal here, and > usually those who help drive industry after being in govt stick with larger > companies where there is more money). > > Those are just off the top of my head. There are definitely various > government sponsored projects that use OFBiz. Still, especially for larger > projects it's tough for open source based solutions to even get a foot in > the door, which I guess is what the organization the Brainfood has been > working with is trying to fix. > > If you're hoping to get a slice of the ever-growing world-wide "economic > stimulus" spending that is going on these days there may be better ways to > go about it than to try to leverage open source software (unless perhaps it > is the variety like RedHat Linux or OpenOffice that might have a > multi-million dollar support contract to go along with it). > > Of course, that's just my opinion... and I'd be delighted if someone would > prove me wrong! > > -David > > > On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Gavin Mabie wrote: > > > Hi list > > > > > > > > Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the public > > sector / government? > > > > > > > > Gavin > > > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates |
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Hi Hans,
Opening the site again is certainly an exiting idea - especially from my personal point of view - having worked in the public sector for most of my working life. In SA the government has formally adopted open source as a strategy to drive down costs but little has been done to realise this goal. I have invested considerable time in developing some stuff on top of OfBiz that is applicable to the sector (notably Corporate Performance Planning, Budgeting, Utility Billing, and Governance Compliance and Risk). My organisation is following the funded pilot route to negate tender requirements and hopefully we will get an opportunity to implement our work in the next month or so. I am open to contribute any work that we have done to your site - should you decide to reopen it. Regards Gavin -----Original Message----- From: Hans Bakker [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: 04 February 2010 11:48 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: OfBiz in Government Hi Gavin, Yes the OpenEGovernment.org site i started in 2004 when David visited Thailand for a 2 weeks course. We expected some more activities from the government here in Thailand but sadly it died. About a year ago i took the site offline...But perhaps we can start again? We are actually doing a project at the moment together with a larger Malaysian software company right now for a marketplace for the Malaysian government based on OFBiz. My experience with governments are that you have to have a pretty big software company in order to bid on a tender. Regards, Hans On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 11:29 +0200, Gavin Mabie wrote: > David > > Sadly (or fortunately) we do not fall within the "economic stimulus" domain > here in South Africa. We do how ever have a huge developmental push and our > young democracy (-20 years) has a long way to go in optimizing governmental > administrative systems. Having worked in the public sector myself for over > twenty years (some as a CIO) I have a special interest in the sector. I > spent the past 16 or so months plugging away at OfBiz to see where and how > it can be applied, especially given the SA government's commitment to Open > Source. I will be making pitches at various local government organisations > over the next few weeks - there is a strong possibility that we might get a > funded pilot (hold thumbs) and will keep you up to date with developments in > this regard. > > It nice to know that some work has been done and I can refer to these in my > presentations. What happened to Open for Government - I think Hans was > driving this? > > Cheers > > Gavin > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: 04 February 2010 04:48 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: OfBiz in Government > > > Anil Patel used to work for a public utility district in Washington State > and introduced a number of OFBiz-based solutions there, including one to > fleet management. > > Hans Bakker did some stuff with this a few years ago in Thailand. > > A company called Integral Business Solutions did a bunch of US Air Force > contracting based on OFBiz. > > Currently Ean Schuessler and Adam Heath of Brainfood put together a site for > (if I understand it right) a US Govt lobby for open source software, and the > site itself runs on OFBiz and Webslinger. It's just the site though, this > isn't any sort of OFBiz lobby and the people there are generally big wigs > from larger organizations pushing various different things in government. > > I've been contacted by a number of government contractors (typically larger > organizations, or companies that specialize in govt contracting) over the > years with proposals for everything from payroll and human resources for > tens of thousands of people, to equipment planning and maintenance for > emergencies. However, it seems like these larger contracts are a HUGE uphill > battle and almost impossible to get unless you already have an "in" with the > buying organization (yes, the revolving door is a HUGE deal here, and > usually those who help drive industry after being in govt stick with larger > companies where there is more money). > > Those are just off the top of my head. There are definitely various > government sponsored projects that use OFBiz. Still, especially for larger > projects it's tough for open source based solutions to even get a foot in > the door, which I guess is what the organization the Brainfood has been > working with is trying to fix. > > If you're hoping to get a slice of the ever-growing world-wide "economic > stimulus" spending that is going on these days there may be better ways to > go about it than to try to leverage open source software (unless perhaps > is the variety like RedHat Linux or OpenOffice that might have a > multi-million dollar support contract to go along with it). > > Of course, that's just my opinion... and I'd be delighted if someone would > prove me wrong! > > -David > > > On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Gavin Mabie wrote: > > > Hi list > > > > > > > > Is there anybody on the list that tried or implemented OfBiz in the > > sector / government? > > > > > > > > Gavin > > > -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates |
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