Ofbiz Development

[james_sg]

Hi John,

OFBiz is open to all, and we work as a community here.
Do stay if you can contribute to OFBiz.

I do agree with some of your points, but it will take some time to fix.
Keep things specific so that it is easier for us to look into it.
You can log OFBiz related issues here at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/

Regards,
James

John Spikowski wrote

Taher,

I think it's best I unsubscribe from the list as I don't want to hurt
this project with my views about Java. Thank you everyone for putting up
with my sour face.

John


On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 13:14 +0300, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Most of the users in the mailing list were trying to give you constructive
> feedback (in their unpaid time) to try and help you out in understanding
> the technology behind ofbiz to which you have been confrontational.
>
> It is definitely okay for your to be unhappy with Java or ofbiz or any
> other technology. I would kindly suggest however that you maintain email
> etiquette for your fellow colleagues on the list. We are all here as a
> community trying to help each other and learn something in the process.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM, John Spikowski <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 23:49 -0700, Paul Mandeltort wrote:
> > > Sounds like you are making the common amatuer mistake of confusing
> > > enterprise java systems for desktop java apps. Please don’t show up and
> > > start bashing a technology on its users list without understanding the
> > > technology, it’s unprofessional.
> >
> > I will be happy to give you a lesson what an 'amateur' can do. While
> > you're playing with yourself in a JAR, I'll show you how it's suppose to
> > be done.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

[Pranay Pandey-3]

+1 Taher.

Best regards,

Pranay Pandey
HotWax Systems
http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion on any technology and we get many
> heated discussions on the mailing list. I love these debates because I
> learn so much in the process. I am only suggesting that we maintain a
> friendly exchange and perhaps avoiding taking things personal.
>
> We do not like losing people in the community and we always welcome new
> comers.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
> On Apr 14, 2016 6:05 PM, "John Spikowski" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Taher,
> >
> > I think it's best I unsubscribe from the list as I don't want to hurt
> > this project with my views about Java. Thank you everyone for putting up
> > with my sour face.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 13:14 +0300, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Most of the users in the mailing list were trying to give you
> > constructive
> > > feedback (in their unpaid time) to try and help you out in
> understanding
> > > the technology behind ofbiz to which you have been confrontational.
> > >
> > > It is definitely okay for your to be unhappy with Java or ofbiz or any
> > > other technology. I would kindly suggest however that you maintain
> email
> > > etiquette for your fellow colleagues on the list. We are all here as a
> > > community trying to help each other and learn something in the process.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your understanding.
> > >
> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM, John Spikowski <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 23:49 -0700, Paul Mandeltort wrote:
> > > > > Sounds like you are making the common amatuer mistake of confusing
> > > > > enterprise java systems for desktop java apps. Please don’t show up
> > and
> > > > > start bashing a technology on its users list without understanding
> > the
> > > > > technology, it’s unprofessional.
> > > >
> > > > I will be happy to give you a lesson what an 'amateur' can do. While
> > > > you're playing with yourself in a JAR, I'll show you how it's suppose
> > to
> > > > be done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>

[anon-2]

A lot good advices.
I did not know about DCEVM.
Thanks everybody.
On 04/14/2016 11:27 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Great, I'll try it, thanks!
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 14/04/2016 10:15, james_sg a écrit :
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> The forked project supports recent Java version 8, while the original
>> project is no longer in development.
>> I uses it with Eclipse so that changed .java files are built
>> automatically
>> into .class files, while
>> DCEVM detects changed class files and load it directly into the JVM.
>>
>> Eclipse will warn me whenever .class files and JVM is not up to date.
>> So I
>> know when I need to restart OFBiz from Eclipse.
>>
>> DCEVM is a time-saver for me since I code mostly in Java :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> James
>>
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux wrote
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> Interesting notably in debugging cases!
>>> Is it better than what is OOTB in Eclipse? Is it better than what it
>>> forked http://ssw.jku.at/dcevm/ ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 14/04/2016 00:38, james_sg a écrit :
>>>> Hi anon,
>>>>
>>>> To add on, if you are using Eclipse IDE for development, check out
>>>> https://dcevm.github.io/. DCEVM allows you to code java and test the
>>>> change
>>>> without restarting the whole application. Eclipse IDE prompts you
>>>> whenever
>>>> DCEVM cannot push the change properly, and you will know the
>>>> application
>>>> requires a restart.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits wrote
>>>>> Hi anon &lt;
>>>>> sa_reminder@
>>>>> &gt;.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jumpstarting development is easy:
>>>>>
>>>>>      1.  Use the ./ant create-component task to create a complete
>>>>> skeleton
>>>>> of
>>>>>      a hot-deployment component. And after an ./ant build start
>>>>> you are
>>>>> ready to
>>>>>      use the skeleton. Just make sure that you load the component's
>>>>> permissions
>>>>>      after the startup (in webtools)
>>>>>      2. You can create widgets (screens, forms) without it
>>>>> requiring a
>>>>> restart
>>>>>      3. You can can create freemarker templates and groovy scripts
>>>>> without
>>>>> it
>>>>>      requiring a restart
>>>>>      4. You can create request-map and view-map URI's without it
>>>>> requiring a
>>>>>      restart
>>>>>
>>>>> The elements of a component requiring a restart is services and Java
>>>>> code
>>>>> (as it needs to be compiled. Adding new labels to the Label.xml
>>>>> files of
>>>>> the component doesn't require a restart, but the cache needs to be
>>>>> flushed
>>>>> to see the effects (again this is done in the webtools component).
>>>>>
>>>>> I trust the above will help you jumpstart your development.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM &lt;http://www.orrtiz.com&gt;
>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>
>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Nick Rosser &lt;
>>>>> nrosser@
>>>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You could check-out BigFish -- an open-source eCommerce framework
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> complements OFBiz. Bigfish.solveda.com.
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: anon [mailto:
>>>>> sa_reminder@
>>>>> ]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 3:12 PM
>>>>>> To:
>>>>> user@.apache
>>>>>> Subject: Ofbiz Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>> I have been looking at the tutorials on youtube of the ofbiz
>>>>>> framework
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I was wondering what the development experience look like. I
>>>>>> noticed in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> vid that the server has to be restarted frequently and that the
>>>>>> startup
>>>>>> time can take more that 5 min. Is that really what is going on?
>>>>>> After seeing that, I tried the moqui framework, because I am looking
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> fully loaded opensource ecommerce framework. Sadly, moqui uses
>>>>>> gradle
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do not have a good experience with gradle. It is just too slow
>>>>>> for my
>>>>>> taste. Is there any trick that you guys use to speed up thae ofbiz
>>>>>> startup
>>>>>> time or do you guys just live with it? I left Javaland years ago
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> that issue...
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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