Dear OfbizDev,
Keep up the great work! We are a test automation consultancy located near London Heathrow and provide test services to many leading organisations. We have been developing a suite of automated tests for ofbiz which includes a range of functional and non-functional tests - web/http tests, db tests, network tests, telephony integration tests, e2e performance, scalability, localisation and limited security tests. Tests are designed around real-life business deployment environments & scenarios and are end-to-end. Test sets are multi-platform / multi-device / multi-browser / multi-language and much of the test technology is bespoke, but we are keen to work with any ofbiz developers who wish to provide customers with professional test strategies, plans and results, focussed on the customers business needs. If anyone would like to work with us on ofbiz test management, planning, automation, analysis, execution et al, please contact me at [hidden email]. We have a dedicated ofbiz test lab plus various telephony test systems for complex integration and test modelling needs - e.g. e2e crm/call center tests for > 2-2000+ agents. Kind regards, Harry Dhillon Worldtestlabs Stockley Park, London Heathrow -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Sykes [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thu 1/25/2007 4:00 PM To: hd Subject: Selenium Hi, I noticed David mentioned Selenium a few days ago, has anyone made a start on tying this into OFBiz yet? -- Kind Regards Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> Sykes Development Ltd http://www.sykesdevelopment.com |
Harry,
I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to work with us". I'm guessing one of these three... 1/ You were advertising a service. 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. -- Kind Regards Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> Sykes Development Ltd http://www.sykesdevelopment.com |
Harry, Just to make it clear: any answer the Andrew's question is fine. If you're interested in helping with OFBiz development, that's great. If you're a service provider you might want to add your listing to the new service provider page which is now on the wiki (used to be committer controlled on the web site). All you need is to create an account and then edit the page to add your listing here: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM Anyway, it's great to hear that you're working with OFBiz. I do travel to London on occasion for business, perhaps we can have dinner or a weekend lunch or something at some point in the future? -David On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote: > Harry, > > I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to work > with us". > > I'm guessing one of these three... > 1/ You were advertising a service. > 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. > 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. > -- > Kind Regards > Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> > Sykes Development Ltd > http://www.sykesdevelopment.com > smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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David/Andrew,
All and more is my answer, although initial focus will be on building integrated and automated test strategies for ofbiz adopters - being more business/industry centric than dev/tech centric. By building a suite of converged data, network and telephony tests, we can build exacting models to better implementation and use of ofbiz and feed these back into the development cycle when proven, reducing regression times for all. I suppose the key question is, have any test consultants really analysed ofbiz for testability and the like? That may be our key starting point. If ofbiz needs quality steering and strengthening, we can help a great deal, through our test services. Kind regards Harry -----Original Message----- From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 11:46 AM To: hd Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered Harry, Just to make it clear: any answer the Andrew's question is fine. If you're interested in helping with OFBiz development, that's great. If you're a service provider you might want to add your listing to the new service provider page which is now on the wiki (used to be committer controlled on the web site). All you need is to create an account and then edit the page to add your listing here: http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM Anyway, it's great to hear that you're working with OFBiz. I do travel to London on occasion for business, perhaps we can have dinner or a weekend lunch or something at some point in the future? -David On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote: > Harry, > > I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to work > with us". > > I'm guessing one of these three... > 1/ You were advertising a service. > 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. > 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. > -- > Kind Regards > Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> > Sykes Development Ltd > http://www.sykesdevelopment.com > |
Harry, It would be great to work with you and others there on this! We really need contributions in this area. A fair amount of infrastructure has been developed for testing in OFBiz, and the design in general is very granular, split into traditional enterprise architecture tiers, and both white- and black- box testable. The current testing infrastructure is made for test configuration and scripts that can go into the code repository and be run from the command line through the same startup jar that is normally used to run OFBiz (unless it is deployed in an external application server, of course). It is based on JUnit so that it is easy to plug in JUnit tests or anything that uses the JUnit interfaces, and for some test sets it would even be possible to run the tests from a JUnit client app. This is also designed to allow the tests to be included in each OFBiz component to that a new component added into OFBiz can not only have classpath entries, entity info, service info, webapps, etc but they can also have test suites that are run with the rest for general and regression tests. Anyway, we talked a bit about testing at the last OFBiz User Conference in November of last year. Based on that and other discussions we are planning on spending to some good time at the upcoming OFBiz developers conference (a sort of 1 week hackathon, if you will) to flesh this out and create a number of example test artifacts. The trick after that will be getting a nice test suite put together for as much of OFBiz as possible! As I said before we could really use help in this area. We'll definitely need help when we are ready to create the comprehensive test suite, but even before then we would appreciate feedback on testing tools and processes. -David On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Harry Dhillon - Worldtestlabs wrote: > David/Andrew, > > All and more is my answer, although initial focus will be on > building integrated and automated test strategies for ofbiz > adopters - being more business/industry centric than dev/tech > centric. By building a suite of converged data, network and > telephony tests, we can build exacting models to better > implementation and use of ofbiz and feed these back into the > development cycle when proven, reducing regression times for all. > > I suppose the key question is, have any test consultants really > analysed ofbiz for testability and the like? That may be our key > starting point. If ofbiz needs quality steering and strengthening, > we can help a great deal, through our test services. > > Kind regards > > Harry > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 11:46 AM > To: hd > Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered > > > Harry, > > Just to make it clear: any answer the Andrew's question is fine. If > you're interested in helping with OFBiz development, that's great. If > you're a service provider you might want to add your listing to the > new service provider page which is now on the wiki (used to be > committer controlled on the web site). All you need is to create an > account and then edit the page to add your listing here: > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM > > Anyway, it's great to hear that you're working with OFBiz. I do > travel to London on occasion for business, perhaps we can have dinner > or a weekend lunch or something at some point in the future? > > -David > > > On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote: > >> Harry, >> >> I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to >> work >> with us". >> >> I'm guessing one of these three... >> 1/ You were advertising a service. >> 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. >> 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. >> -- >> Kind Regards >> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> >> Sykes Development Ltd >> http://www.sykesdevelopment.com >> > > smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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There is much work to be done - If you have any test related documentation, strategy, plans, scripts or thoughts, please do forward details/links/documents and I will initiate a high-level review to determine what we have, where ofbiz is currently, where you'd like to take it, and start developing a test strategy to support that.
I'd be happy to meet in or around London to discuss this further, Kind regards Harry p.s. the http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM link generates an error when attempting to sign up: error(s) occurred: * This installation of Confluence is not licensed to add any more users. Please contact the site administrators for more information. -----Original Message----- From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 2:45 AM To: hd Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered Harry, It would be great to work with you and others there on this! We really need contributions in this area. A fair amount of infrastructure has been developed for testing in OFBiz, and the design in general is very granular, split into traditional enterprise architecture tiers, and both white- and black- box testable. The current testing infrastructure is made for test configuration and scripts that can go into the code repository and be run from the command line through the same startup jar that is normally used to run OFBiz (unless it is deployed in an external application server, of course). It is based on JUnit so that it is easy to plug in JUnit tests or anything that uses the JUnit interfaces, and for some test sets it would even be possible to run the tests from a JUnit client app. This is also designed to allow the tests to be included in each OFBiz component to that a new component added into OFBiz can not only have classpath entries, entity info, service info, webapps, etc but they can also have test suites that are run with the rest for general and regression tests. Anyway, we talked a bit about testing at the last OFBiz User Conference in November of last year. Based on that and other discussions we are planning on spending to some good time at the upcoming OFBiz developers conference (a sort of 1 week hackathon, if you will) to flesh this out and create a number of example test artifacts. The trick after that will be getting a nice test suite put together for as much of OFBiz as possible! As I said before we could really use help in this area. We'll definitely need help when we are ready to create the comprehensive test suite, but even before then we would appreciate feedback on testing tools and processes. -David On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Harry Dhillon - Worldtestlabs wrote: > David/Andrew, > > All and more is my answer, although initial focus will be on > building integrated and automated test strategies for ofbiz > adopters - being more business/industry centric than dev/tech > centric. By building a suite of converged data, network and > telephony tests, we can build exacting models to better > implementation and use of ofbiz and feed these back into the > development cycle when proven, reducing regression times for all. > > I suppose the key question is, have any test consultants really > analysed ofbiz for testability and the like? That may be our key > starting point. If ofbiz needs quality steering and strengthening, > we can help a great deal, through our test services. > > Kind regards > > Harry > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 11:46 AM > To: hd > Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered > > > Harry, > > Just to make it clear: any answer the Andrew's question is fine. If > you're interested in helping with OFBiz development, that's great. If > you're a service provider you might want to add your listing to the > new service provider page which is now on the wiki (used to be > committer controlled on the web site). All you need is to create an > account and then edit the page to add your listing here: > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM > > Anyway, it's great to hear that you're working with OFBiz. I do > travel to London on occasion for business, perhaps we can have dinner > or a weekend lunch or something at some point in the future? > > -David > > > On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote: > >> Harry, >> >> I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to >> work >> with us". >> >> I'm guessing one of these three... >> 1/ You were advertising a service. >> 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. >> 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. >> -- >> Kind Regards >> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> >> Sykes Development Ltd >> http://www.sykesdevelopment.com >> > > |
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Harry, For now the best thing is to probably wait for the upcoming developers conference (Mar 5-9) as testing is one of the big topics that seems to be of interest and we'll hopefully flesh out more testing infrastructure and such then. -David On Jan 30, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Harry Dhillon - Worldtestlabs wrote: > There is much work to be done - If you have any test related > documentation, strategy, plans, scripts or thoughts, please do > forward details/links/documents and I will initiate a high-level > review to determine what we have, where ofbiz is currently, where > you'd like to take it, and start developing a test strategy to > support that. > I'd be happy to meet in or around London to discuss this further, > > Kind regards > > Harry > > p.s. the http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM link generates an error when > attempting to sign up: > error(s) occurred: > * This installation of Confluence is not licensed to add any > more users. Please contact the site administrators for more > information. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 2:45 AM > To: hd > Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered > > > Harry, > > It would be great to work with you and others there on this! We > really need contributions in this area. > > A fair amount of infrastructure has been developed for testing in > OFBiz, and the design in general is very granular, split into > traditional enterprise architecture tiers, and both white- and black- > box testable. > > The current testing infrastructure is made for test configuration and > scripts that can go into the code repository and be run from the > command line through the same startup jar that is normally used to > run OFBiz (unless it is deployed in an external application server, > of course). It is based on JUnit so that it is easy to plug in JUnit > tests or anything that uses the JUnit interfaces, and for some test > sets it would even be possible to run the tests from a JUnit client > app. This is also designed to allow the tests to be included in each > OFBiz component to that a new component added into OFBiz can not only > have classpath entries, entity info, service info, webapps, etc but > they can also have test suites that are run with the rest for general > and regression tests. > > Anyway, we talked a bit about testing at the last OFBiz User > Conference in November of last year. Based on that and other > discussions we are planning on spending to some good time at the > upcoming OFBiz developers conference (a sort of 1 week hackathon, if > you will) to flesh this out and create a number of example test > artifacts. > > The trick after that will be getting a nice test suite put together > for as much of OFBiz as possible! > > As I said before we could really use help in this area. We'll > definitely need help when we are ready to create the comprehensive > test suite, but even before then we would appreciate feedback on > testing tools and processes. > > -David > > > On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Harry Dhillon - Worldtestlabs wrote: > >> David/Andrew, >> >> All and more is my answer, although initial focus will be on >> building integrated and automated test strategies for ofbiz >> adopters - being more business/industry centric than dev/tech >> centric. By building a suite of converged data, network and >> telephony tests, we can build exacting models to better >> implementation and use of ofbiz and feed these back into the >> development cycle when proven, reducing regression times for all. >> >> I suppose the key question is, have any test consultants really >> analysed ofbiz for testability and the like? That may be our key >> starting point. If ofbiz needs quality steering and strengthening, >> we can help a great deal, through our test services. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Harry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David E. Jones [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 11:46 AM >> To: hd >> Subject: Re: Ofbiz Test Automation Services Offered >> >> >> Harry, >> >> Just to make it clear: any answer the Andrew's question is fine. If >> you're interested in helping with OFBiz development, that's great. If >> you're a service provider you might want to add your listing to the >> new service provider page which is now on the wiki (used to be >> committer controlled on the web site). All you need is to create an >> account and then edit the page to add your listing here: >> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAM >> >> Anyway, it's great to hear that you're working with OFBiz. I do >> travel to London on occasion for business, perhaps we can have dinner >> or a weekend lunch or something at some point in the future? >> >> -David >> >> >> On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote: >> >>> Harry, >>> >>> I wasn't clear exactly what you meant by "If anyone would like to >>> work >>> with us". >>> >>> I'm guessing one of these three... >>> 1/ You were advertising a service. >>> 2/ You're looking to opensource your work so far. >>> 3/ You're looking for help to progress your work. >>> -- >>> Kind Regards >>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> >>> Sykes Development Ltd >>> http://www.sykesdevelopment.com >>> >> >> > > smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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