Ofbiz integration to other J2EE application

[Olindo Pindaro-2]

.My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a legacy
 proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).

I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.

These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle DB,
that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....

What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain more
losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
Integration (Trigger and so on)....

--
Olindo Pindaro
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
[phone]

[Jacques Le Roux]

What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?

Jacques

From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>

> .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a legacy
> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>
> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>
> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle DB,
> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>
> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain more
> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>
> --
> Olindo Pindaro
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
> [phone]
>

[Olindo Pindaro-2]

Thanks Jacques,
Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz expert so
before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new framework I
want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".

All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz Development
The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a reverse for
OfBizsource.
This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing how to
call from external java application.

Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?

Thank in advance
Olindo

2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>
>> .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a legacy
>>
>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>
>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>>
>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle DB,
>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>
>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain more
>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>
>> --
>> Olindo Pindaro
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>> [phone]
>>
>>
>

--
Olindo Pindaro
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
[phone]

[Jacques Le Roux]

Apache ServiceMix : nothing but time to invest http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html. I'd also recommend
http://www.manning.com/rademakers/
SOAP : http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/oR4 (use Apache Axis2, another free "tool"). I'm still (for months now :) working on integrating
Axis2 in OFBiz. I have already a solution a little better than the one on this page, but always using Axis2 as a servlet. I have
opened a Jira issue for that and should (yes, I should...mmm...) upload a patch https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2448

HTH

Jacques

From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>

> Thanks Jacques,
> Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz expert so
> before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new framework I
> want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".
>
> All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz Development
> The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a reverse for
> OfBizsource.
> This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing how to
> call from external java application.
>
> Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?
>
> Thank in advance
> Olindo
>
> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
>> What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a legacy
>>>
>>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>>
>>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>>>
>>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle DB,
>>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>>
>>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain more
>>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>> [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Olindo Pindaro
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
> [phone]
>

[Olindo Pindaro-2]

Jacques,
the SOA/ESB approches is great in complex big scenario (from software and
organizational point of view), optimal for a Bank or Telco provider,
regarding the specific problem we can totally controll more variable and
target customer is little and Middle entreprise: Jpuzzle is owned by us,
ofBiz isOpen, both written in a Java DB and server neutral, the interaction
is essencially one-to-one (so the BUS would collapses in a direct
connection)

So the idea is use lighter approach, ligher in CPU usage and ligher in term
of speeding up devlopment.


Just to enumerate to possibility:
1) Jpuzzle call ofbiz Service Using webservice, why not RMI?
2) Jpuzzle "listen" JMS event using JMS.
3) We can develop a Jpuzzle Adapter so Obfiz Module can talk internally to
him like an other ofbiz module, talking to Jpuzzle using webservice or why
not,  a lighter approc like RMI / JSON-RPC ?

What is your opinion?

Thank
Olindo





2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> Apache ServiceMix : nothing but time to invest
> http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html. I'd also recommend
> http://www.manning.com/rademakers/
> SOAP : http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/oR4 (use Apache Axis2, another free
> "tool"). I'm still (for months now :) working on integrating Axis2 in OFBiz.
> I have already a solution a little better than the one on this page, but
> always using Axis2 as a servlet. I have opened a Jira issue for that and
> should (yes, I should...mmm...) upload a patch
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2448
>
> HTH
>
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>
>> Thanks Jacques,
>> Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz expert so
>> before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new framework I
>> want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".
>>
>> All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz Development
>> The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a reverse
>> for
>> OfBizsource.
>> This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing how to
>> call from external java application.
>>
>> Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?
>>
>> Thank in advance
>> Olindo
>>
>> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>
>>  What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>  .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a
>>>> legacy
>>>>
>>>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>>>
>>>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>>>>
>>>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle
>>>> DB,
>>>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>>>
>>>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain
>>>> more
>>>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>>>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>>>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>>> [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Olindo Pindaro
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>> [phone]
>>
>>
>
>

--
Olindo Pindaro
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
[phone]

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>

> Jacques,
> the SOA/ESB approches is great in complex big scenario (from software and
> organizational point of view), optimal for a Bank or Telco provider,
> regarding the specific problem we can totally controll more variable and
> target customer is little and Middle entreprise: Jpuzzle is owned by us,
> ofBiz isOpen, both written in a Java DB and server neutral, the interaction
> is essencially one-to-one (so the BUS would collapses in a direct
> connection)
>
> So the idea is use lighter approach, ligher in CPU usage and ligher in term
> of speeding up devlopment.
>
>
> Just to enumerate to possibility:
> 1) Jpuzzle call ofbiz Service Using webservice, why not RMI?
> 2) Jpuzzle "listen" JMS event using JMS.
> 3) We can develop a Jpuzzle Adapter so Obfiz Module can talk internally to
> him like an other ofbiz module, talking to Jpuzzle using webservice or why
> not,  a lighter approc like RMI / JSON-RPC ?
>
> What is your opinion?

If you are looking for a simple solution, I would go for 1.1 (maybe even using RMI if you see no drawkacks).
But I don't know what Jpuzzle Adapter is and the work it involves to be created. So maybe 3.1 would give you less "surprises" ?

Jacques
 

> Thank
> Olindo
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
>> Apache ServiceMix : nothing but time to invest
>> http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html. I'd also recommend
>> http://www.manning.com/rademakers/
>> SOAP : http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/oR4 (use Apache Axis2, another free
>> "tool"). I'm still (for months now :) working on integrating Axis2 in OFBiz.
>> I have already a solution a little better than the one on this page, but
>> always using Axis2 as a servlet. I have opened a Jira issue for that and
>> should (yes, I should...mmm...) upload a patch
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2448
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> Thanks Jacques,
>>> Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz expert so
>>> before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new framework I
>>> want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".
>>>
>>> All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz Development
>>> The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a reverse
>>> for
>>> OfBizsource.
>>> This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing how to
>>> call from external java application.
>>>
>>> Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?
>>>
>>> Thank in advance
>>> Olindo
>>>
>>> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>  What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>  .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a
>>>>> legacy
>>>>>
>>>>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle
>>>>> DB,
>>>>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain
>>>>> more
>>>>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>>>>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>>>>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>>>> [phone]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>> [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Olindo Pindaro
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
> [phone]
>

[Olindo Pindaro-2]

Thank for your support Jacques!


2009/9/28 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>
>> Jacques,
>> the SOA/ESB approches is great in complex big scenario (from software and
>> organizational point of view), optimal for a Bank or Telco provider,
>> regarding the specific problem we can totally controll more variable and
>> target customer is little and Middle entreprise: Jpuzzle is owned by us,
>> ofBiz isOpen, both written in a Java DB and server neutral, the
>> interaction
>> is essencially one-to-one (so the BUS would collapses in a direct
>> connection)
>>
>> So the idea is use lighter approach, ligher in CPU usage and ligher in
>> term
>> of speeding up devlopment.
>>
>>
>> Just to enumerate to possibility:
>> 1) Jpuzzle call ofbiz Service Using webservice, why not RMI?
>> 2) Jpuzzle "listen" JMS event using JMS.
>> 3) We can develop a Jpuzzle Adapter so Obfiz Module can talk internally to
>> him like an other ofbiz module, talking to Jpuzzle using webservice or why
>> not,  a lighter approc like RMI / JSON-RPC ?
>>
>> What is your opinion?
>>
>
> If you are looking for a simple solution, I would go for 1.1 (maybe even
> using RMI if you see no drawkacks). But I don't know what Jpuzzle Adapter is
> and the work it involves to be created. So maybe 3.1 would give you less
> "surprises" ?
>
> Jacques
>
>
>  Thank
>> Olindo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>
>>  Apache ServiceMix : nothing but time to invest
>>> http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html. I'd also recommend
>>> http://www.manning.com/rademakers/
>>> SOAP : http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/oR4 (use Apache Axis2, another free
>>> "tool"). I'm still (for months now :) working on integrating Axis2 in
>>> OFBiz.
>>> I have already a solution a little better than the one on this page, but
>>> always using Axis2 as a servlet. I have opened a Jira issue for that and
>>> should (yes, I should...mmm...) upload a patch
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2448
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>  Thanks Jacques,
>>>> Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz expert so
>>>> before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new framework I
>>>> want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".
>>>>
>>>> All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz Development
>>>> The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a reverse
>>>> for
>>>> OfBizsource.
>>>> This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing how
>>>> to
>>>> call from external java application.
>>>>
>>>> Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?
>>>>
>>>> Thank in advance
>>>> Olindo
>>>>
>>>> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>  What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>  .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a
>>>>>
>>>>>> legacy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in JPuzzle
>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to maintain
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>>>>>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>>>>>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>>>>> [phone]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>>> [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Olindo Pindaro
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>> [phone]
>>
>>
>

--
Olindo Pindaro
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
[phone]

[David E. Jones-2]

Take a look at the org.ofbiz.service.rmi.ExampleRemoteClient.java  
file... it may be just what you need.

-David


On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Olindo Pindaro wrote:

> Jacques,
> the SOA/ESB approches is great in complex big scenario (from  
> software and
> organizational point of view), optimal for a Bank or Telco provider,
> regarding the specific problem we can totally controll more variable  
> and
> target customer is little and Middle entreprise: Jpuzzle is owned by  
> us,
> ofBiz isOpen, both written in a Java DB and server neutral, the  
> interaction
> is essencially one-to-one (so the BUS would collapses in a direct
> connection)
>
> So the idea is use lighter approach, ligher in CPU usage and ligher  
> in term
> of speeding up devlopment.
>
>
> Just to enumerate to possibility:
> 1) Jpuzzle call ofbiz Service Using webservice, why not RMI?
> 2) Jpuzzle "listen" JMS event using JMS.
> 3) We can develop a Jpuzzle Adapter so Obfiz Module can talk  
> internally to
> him like an other ofbiz module, talking to Jpuzzle using webservice  
> or why
> not,  a lighter approc like RMI / JSON-RPC ?
>
> What is your opinion?
>
> Thank
> Olindo
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
>> Apache ServiceMix : nothing but time to invest
>> http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html. I'd also recommend
>> http://www.manning.com/rademakers/
>> SOAP : http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/oR4 (use Apache Axis2, another free
>> "tool"). I'm still (for months now :) working on integrating Axis2  
>> in OFBiz.
>> I have already a solution a little better than the one on this  
>> page, but
>> always using Axis2 as a servlet. I have opened a Jira issue for  
>> that and
>> should (yes, I should...mmm...) upload a patch
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2448
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> Thanks Jacques,
>>> Your suggestion sound great, but I am not an ESB nor a OfBiz  
>>> expert so
>>> before to add to my todo list the acquisition of another new  
>>> framework I
>>> want to be shure that in I am not "using a rocket to kill a fly".
>>>
>>> All what I know regarding OfBiz is from book "Apache OFBiz  
>>> Development
>>> The Beginner's Tutorial " of which you are a reviewer and from a  
>>> reverse
>>> for
>>> OfBizsource.
>>> This good book explain how to develop a ofBiz inside ofBiz nothing  
>>> how to
>>> call from external java application.
>>>
>>> Have you  a link to a tutorial, article regarding these?
>>>
>>> Thank in advance
>>> Olindo
>>>
>>> 2009/9/25 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> What about ESB ? ServiceMix ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Olindo Pindaro" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> .My company delivered several J2EE Application Based on JPuzzle, a
>>>>> legacy
>>>>>
>>>>> proprietary framework for ERP (it's 7 years long story).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am evaluating the possibility to integrate OfBIZ ecommerce  
>>>>> with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> These means that a ecommerce site user will have an "alias" in  
>>>>> JPuzzle
>>>>> DB,
>>>>> that order history must be accessible from Jpuzzle and so on....
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the suggested integration approace, taken in mind to  
>>>>> maintain
>>>>> more
>>>>> losely compled that possible the 2 framework?
>>>>> which software tools are suggested, SOAP Integration, RMI, EBJ, DB
>>>>> Integration (Trigger and so on)....
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>>>> [phone]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olindo Pindaro
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
>>> [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Olindo Pindaro
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olindopindaro
> [phone]