Oracle Java SDK distribution

Sorry this is a bit off topic, but maybe some of you folks know the answer.
I am not legal minded.
Since Ofbiz evidently requires the SDK (I saw this several places, so I have not tried open java, or the JRE); but if I am wrong it would be great if any one got it working on jre alone?

Based on that assumption, I am guessing the SDK has got to be distributed to clients.
My boss seems very concerned, and asked me to get it to run on the JRE.

Any one distribute the SDK to clients. Is it legal?

I looked up on java.com
Can I distribute Java with my software?
Yes, you can provide Java with your software provided you abide by the terms and conditions of Java binary code license.
But the license it huge and in legalese.

Sorry if this is totally a bad place to ask, but it sort of related.

I was able to confirm the JDK is not required to run OFBiz.
I could use startofbiz.sh to launch and it appeared to work just fine.
I had to save off my database (using postgres) and load it on the deployment machine (ie no building at all I had an issue even loading ant, so my install had no ant at all, just a copy of my ofbiz (with my hot-deploy).
I may not have touched on any components that require the JDK.
If any one has more info please let me know. My boss was very interested in only deploying with the JRE.
I spent a bit of time trying to find out about deploying the JDK and Oracle was very difficult for me to get a simple answer. I tried email, calling, online chat etc. I did eventually get an email for the license department and they blew me off, but I got some guy saying I needed to talk to sales, but they were the folks who gave me the licensing lady. I am not sure if any one at Oracle can say if we need a license when deploying machines with ofbiz and JDK or what it would cost. So I am very happy OFBiz ran ok with just the JRE.

[Mike Z]

The JRE will probably run an already compiled ofbiz distribution.  To
compile from scratch, it probably needs the JDK.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:51 AM, [hidden email] <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was able to confirm the JDK is not required to run OFBiz.
> I could use startofbiz.sh to launch and it appeared to work just fine.
> I had to save off my database (using postgres) and load it on the
> deployment
> machine (ie no building at all I had an issue even loading ant, so my
> install had no ant at all, just a copy of my ofbiz (with my hot-deploy).
> I may not have touched on any components that require the JDK.
> If any one has more info please let me know. My boss was very interested in
> only deploying with the JRE.
> I spent a bit of time trying to find out about deploying the JDK and Oracle
> was very difficult for me to get a simple answer. I tried email, calling,
> online chat etc. I did eventually get an email for the license department
> and they blew me off, but I got some guy saying I needed to talk to sales,
> but they were the folks who gave me the licensing lady. I am not sure if
> any
> one at Oracle can say if we need a license when deploying machines with
> ofbiz and JDK or what it would cost. So I am very happy OFBiz ran ok with
> just the JRE.
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Joel Fradkin
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>

[Pierre Smits]

Which shouldn't be an issue when you release pre-compiled solutions to the
production environment.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The JRE will probably run an already compiled ofbiz distribution.  To
> compile from scratch, it probably needs the JDK.
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:51 AM, [hidden email] <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I was able to confirm the JDK is not required to run OFBiz.
> > I could use startofbiz.sh to launch and it appeared to work just fine.
> > I had to save off my database (using postgres) and load it on the
> > deployment
> > machine (ie no building at all I had an issue even loading ant, so my
> > install had no ant at all, just a copy of my ofbiz (with my hot-deploy).
> > I may not have touched on any components that require the JDK.
> > If any one has more info please let me know. My boss was very interested
> in
> > only deploying with the JRE.
> > I spent a bit of time trying to find out about deploying the JDK and
> Oracle
> > was very difficult for me to get a simple answer. I tried email, calling,
> > online chat etc. I did eventually get an email for the license department
> > and they blew me off, but I got some guy saying I needed to talk to
> sales,
> > but they were the folks who gave me the licensing lady. I am not sure if
> > any
> > one at Oracle can say if we need a license when deploying machines with
> > ofbiz and JDK or what it would cost. So I am very happy OFBiz ran ok with
> > just the JRE.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Joel Fradkin
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Oracle-Java-SDK-distribution-tp4656628p4656749.html
> > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>

Thanks for the heads up. I knew for sure I needed JDK for development.
I don't need any licence to do development.
Its just we want to do a turnkey solution with ofbiz pre-loaded on a server.
If it required JDK (SDK not sure what the difference is), I figured I could find out if Oracle let you distribute it, or if it could be licensed. I had no luck. There was some pretty clear docs that implied to me you can distribute the JRE and like 5 or 6 items from the JDK. Not sure if with those items you could do a build or not.
As long as it runs ok using the JRE I am good.
We will just use the JRE. It was a bit of fun getting just the JRE on Linux, seems like the JDK is easier to install. I had to do it manually. If any one thinks the documentation I did for installing just the JDK on Ubuntu 12.04 is needed let me know where to put it. or if you need it send me a message. There was plenty of info on google, but it did take a bit to find the specifics for doing the JRE as it is not the main deployment for Linux. You can do a apt-get to get the JDK.

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Joel,

If I recall correctly OFBiz should also run with OpenJDK. You could try that if the licences is a concern. But other community members have some better insights.

Regards,

Pierre

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 14 okt. 2014 om 14:49 heeft "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Thanks for the heads up. I knew for sure I needed JDK for development.
> I don't need any licence to do development.
> Its just we want to do a turnkey solution with ofbiz pre-loaded on a server.
> If it required JDK (SDK not sure what the difference is), I figured I could
> find out if Oracle let you distribute it, or if it could be licensed. I had
> no luck. There was some pretty clear docs that implied to me you can
> distribute the JRE and like 5 or 6 items from the JDK. Not sure if with
> those items you could do a build or not.
> As long as it runs ok using the JRE I am good.
> We will just use the JRE. It was a bit of fun getting just the JRE on Linux,
> seems like the JDK is easier to install. I had to do it manually. If any one
> thinks the documentation I did for installing just the JDK on Ubuntu 12.04
> is needed let me know where to put it. or if you need it send me a message.
> There was plenty of info on google, but it did take a bit to find the
> specifics for doing the JRE as it is not the main deployment for Linux. You
> can do a apt-get to get the JDK.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joel Fradkin
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Oracle-Java-SDK-distribution-tp4656628p4656771.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Jacques Le Roux]

Yes so far it's OK

Jacques

Le 14/10/2014 15:19, Pierre Smits a écrit :

> Hi Joel,
>
> If I recall correctly OFBiz should also run with OpenJDK. You could try that if the licences is a concern. But other community members have some better insights.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
>> Op 14 okt. 2014 om 14:49 heeft "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up. I knew for sure I needed JDK for development.
>> I don't need any licence to do development.
>> Its just we want to do a turnkey solution with ofbiz pre-loaded on a server.
>> If it required JDK (SDK not sure what the difference is), I figured I could
>> find out if Oracle let you distribute it, or if it could be licensed. I had
>> no luck. There was some pretty clear docs that implied to me you can
>> distribute the JRE and like 5 or 6 items from the JDK. Not sure if with
>> those items you could do a build or not.
>> As long as it runs ok using the JRE I am good.
>> We will just use the JRE. It was a bit of fun getting just the JRE on Linux,
>> seems like the JDK is easier to install. I had to do it manually. If any one
>> thinks the documentation I did for installing just the JDK on Ubuntu 12.04
>> is needed let me know where to put it. or if you need it send me a message.
>> There was plenty of info on google, but it did take a bit to find the
>> specifics for doing the JRE as it is not the main deployment for Linux. You
>> can do a apt-get to get the JDK.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Joel Fradkin
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Oracle-Java-SDK-distribution-tp4656628p4656771.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>