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Jacques Le Roux
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Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence is
not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and checked
: there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence

So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this
kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will have
migrated, damned! :( )

Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...

Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> Hi,
>
> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence
> is not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself (disappointing).
> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and
> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>
> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
> (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this
> kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will have
> migrated, damned! :( )
>
> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...

I Checked : it's a Confluence issue

Jacques

> Thanks
>
> Jacques
> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>


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Jacques Le Roux
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks


> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence
>> is not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself (disappointing).
>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and
>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>
>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>> (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this
>> kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will
>> have migrated, damned! :( )
>>
>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>
> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue

Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part in
the link. Enough for today :/

Jacques

> Jacques
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Tim Ruppert
Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.  Also, as I've been asking  
forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to prepare for the move to Apache?

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
> >
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>
>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may  
>>> be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence is  
>>> not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself  
>>> (disappointing).
>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  
>>> broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
>>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  
>>> Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>>
>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take  
>>> this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  
>>> but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this  
>>> kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in  
>>> newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will  
>>> have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>
>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  
>>> crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>
>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>
> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  
> space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part in  
> the link. Enough for today :/
>
> Jacques
>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>
>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Jacques Le Roux
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From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.

tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

>Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to prepare for the move to Apache?

A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques

> Cheers,
> Ruppert
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>> >
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>
>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that
>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself  (disappointing).
>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and
>>>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>>>
>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>> (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure
>>>> this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we
>>>> will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>
>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>
>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>
>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part
>> in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Tim Ruppert
inline

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>
> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

tinyURLs in Confluence - that's what was being said was moved ...

>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  
>> prepare for the move to Apache?
>
> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Not up to me - but I would imagine it.

>
> Jacques
>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
>>>>> may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
>>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
>>>>> itself  (disappointing).
>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  
>>>>> broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
>>>>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  
>>>>> Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>>>>
>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
>>>>> take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  
>>>>> but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure  
>>>>> this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  
>>>>> in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we  
>>>>> will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>
>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  
>>>>> crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>
>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>
>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  
>>> space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
>>> in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Jacques Le Roux
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From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>

> inline
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>>
>> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>
> tinyURLs in Confluence - that's what was being said was moved ...

Ha yes, it's a misundestanding I was speaking about the URL you see below. It comes from Jira. I know about Confluence.

Jacques

>>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  prepare for the move to Apache?
>>
>> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>
> Not up to me - but I would imagine it.
>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>>> >
>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that
>>>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
>>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it,
>>>>>> and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by
>>>>>> Confluence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache
>>>>>> server
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>> (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title   but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure
>>>>>> this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when
>>>>>> we  will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>>
>>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>>
>>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:"
>>>> part  in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

David E. Jones-2
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IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  
will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or there  
are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.

-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>
> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>
>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  
>> prepare for the move to Apache?
>
> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>
> Jacques
>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
>>>>> may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
>>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
>>>>> itself  (disappointing).
>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  
>>>>> broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
>>>>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  
>>>>> Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>>>>
>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
>>>>> take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  
>>>>> but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure  
>>>>> this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  
>>>>> in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we  
>>>>> will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>
>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  
>>>>> crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>
>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>
>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  
>>> space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
>>> in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Tim Ruppert
Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good to  
go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move it to Apache.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  
> will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or there  
> are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>>
>> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>>
>>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence  
>>> to prepare for the move to Apache?
>>
>> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>>> >
>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
>>>>>> may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
>>>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
>>>>>> itself  (disappointing).
>>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  
>>>>>> broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
>>>>>> checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  
>>>>>> Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
>>>>>> take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache  
>>>>>> server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a  
>>>>>> title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty  
>>>>>> sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been  
>>>>>> fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test that  
>>>>>> when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  
>>>>>> crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>>
>>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>>
>>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  
>>>> space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
>>>> in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Thanks Tim,

Looking forward for progress

Jacques

From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>

> Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move
> it to Apache.
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or
>> there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>>>
>>> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>>>
>>>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence  to prepare for the move to Apache?
>>>
>>> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that
>>>>>>> Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
>>>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it,
>>>>>>> and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by
>>>>>>> Confluence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>>> (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a  title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty
>>>>>>> sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test
>>>>>>> that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:"
>>>>> part  in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

David E. Jones-2

Yes, thanks for your work on that Tim... both now and previously.

-David


On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> Looking forward for progress
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>> Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good  
>> to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move it to  
>> Apache.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  
>>> will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or  
>>> there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing  
>>> to do.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>>>>
>>>> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>>>>
>>>>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade  
>>>>> Confluence  to prepare for the move to Apache?
>>>>
>>>> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its  
>>>>>>>> title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems  
>>>>>>>> that Confluence is  not able to change some links (with  
>>>>>>>> anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
>>>>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and  
>>>>>>>> it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed  
>>>>>>>> it, and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz  
>>>>>>>> Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled  
>>>>>>>> by Confluence
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
>>>>>>>> take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache  
>>>>>>>> server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a  
>>>>>>>> title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty  
>>>>>>>> sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have  
>>>>>>>> been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test  
>>>>>>>> that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine    
>>>>>>>> crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the  
>>>>>> same   space. It handles the title change but removes the  
>>>>>> "SPACE:" part  in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

Tim Ruppert
Anytime gents - anytime.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:49 AM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> Yes, thanks for your work on that Tim... both now and previously.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim,
>>
>> Looking forward for progress
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>> Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its  
>>> good to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move  
>>> it to Apache.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along  
>>>> at  will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems  
>>>> or there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural  
>>>> thing to do.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.
>>>>>
>>>>> tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade  
>>>>>> Confluence  to prepare for the move to Apache?
>>>>>
>>>>> A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its  
>>>>>>>>> title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems  
>>>>>>>>> that Confluence is  not able to change some links (with  
>>>>>>>>> anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
>>>>>>>>> For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and  
>>>>>>>>> it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed  
>>>>>>>>> it, and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz  
>>>>>>>>> Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly  
>>>>>>>>> handled by Confluence
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So we should be careful with that (see below) or even  
>>>>>>>>> better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to  
>>>>>>>>> Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
>>>>>>>>>  (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
>>>>>>>>> We could of course check incoming links before changing a  
>>>>>>>>> title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm  
>>>>>>>>> pretty sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others)  
>>>>>>>>> have been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember  
>>>>>>>>> to test that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and  
>>>>>>>>> mine   crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou  
>>>>>>>>> migration...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I Checked : it's a Confluence issue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the  
>>>>>>> same   space. It handles the title change but removes the  
>>>>>>> "SPACE:" part  in  the link. Enough for today :/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>> PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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