POS - Epson TM-T88III installation Where are the JARs?

[Branden Strickland]

Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a very
important question.

I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which included also
setting up Java Communications API)

I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere, and as
far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get a
parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel considered
a 24 pin serial?

Thanks!

[Branden Strickland]

Update: still not working:
I stole the .jars from
https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar

put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
I'm using JDK 1.6
EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L

I get this
2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62 :ERROR]
---- exception report
----------------------------------------------------------
JPOS Exception
Exception: jpos.JposException
Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
---- stack trace
---------------------------------------------------------------
jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown Source)
jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java
:50)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:79)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)


Thanks guys!
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a very
> important question.
>
> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which included
> also setting up Java Communications API)
>
> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere, and as
> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get a
> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel considered
> a 24 pin serial?
>
> Thanks!
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Did you read this carefully :
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp; Actually all the
page should interest you...

Jacques

From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>

> Update: still not working:
> I stole the .jars from
> https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
>
> put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> I'm using JDK 1.6
> EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
>
> I get this
> 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62 :ERROR]
> ---- exception report
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> JPOS Exception
> Exception: jpos.JposException
> Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> ---- stack trace
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown Source)
> jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(JposDeviceContainer.java
> :50)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:79)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
>
>
> Thanks guys!
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a very
>> important question.
>>
>> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
>> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which included
>> also setting up Java Communications API)
>>
>> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
>> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere, and as
>> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
>> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get a
>> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel considered
>> a 24 pin serial?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

[Branden Strickland]

I'll read over that this weekend.

Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but couldn't
find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.

Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get it............. :P

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Did you read this carefully :
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>;
> Actually all the
> page should interest you...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> > Update: still not working:
> > I stole the .jars from
> >
> https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> >
> > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> > I'm using JDK 1.6
> > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
> >
> > I get this
> > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62 :ERROR]
> > ---- exception report
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > JPOS Exception
> > Exception: jpos.JposException
> > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > ---- stack trace
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown Source)
> > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
> JposDeviceContainer.java
> > :50)
> > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:79)
> > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
> >
> >
> > Thanks guys!
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a very
> >> important question.
> >>
> >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
> >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which included
> >> also setting up Java Communications API)
> >>
> >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere, and
> as
> >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get a
> >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel
> considered
> >> a 24 pin serial?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >
>
>

[SkipDever]

Hope everyones having a great holiday.

I didn't get any responses to an earlier query, so I came up with a plan
that I wanted to ask for comments on.  To repeat the problem:

---------
I have this ftl script that displays a list from an EntityListIterator.
This ftl script has a link on the primary key in the list to display a
second ftl screen showing the details of the fields in the selected
GenericValue from the EntityListIterator.

I have a request to be able to click a button from this detail screen and
show the next and (hopefully) previous record from the EntityListIterator,
and thereby move through the list a record at a time from the detail screen.
I am passing the id field as a parameter to the detail screen and do a
findByPrimaryKey() to get the detail.  I can't see any
GenericDelegator.findNext() or anything like it which would be exactly what
I need.  The entity can sometimes contain a million records or more so I
would prefer not to get all the keys and then search through them,
especially considering that I have an active EntityListIterator.
-----------

What I have decided to try is this:

Create a java class that holds an EntityListIterator, the current primary
key, and a reference to a java timer.  The instantiator would create the
EntityListIterator and use iter.next() to move through the list until the
key is found.  Subsiquent calls would just do an iter.next() or
iter.previous() to return the next/previous record.

A java timer would be set for say... 10 minutes and if the timer goes off
the owner class would be asked to destroy the object and cause
EntityListIterator.close() to be called.

My worries are these:

1.  There would usually be two EntityListIterator on the same table/view.
2.  The instantiation/iter.next() calls would come from (presumably)
different threads.  I am worried about this because of David's comments
about transactions.

A question I had is, is there  a global way to know when a user accesses a
different module, say going from ordermgr/control/main to
partymgr/control/main.  If I could detect this, I could promptly close the
EntityListIterator without having to wait on the timer.

Does anyone see any problems or pitfalls to avoid?  Or perhaps a better
and/or simpler solution.

Skip


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[Branden Strickland]

Jacques,

That page was a huge amount of help.  Unfortunately I'm still stuck at one
particular par that I think you may at least (with your knowledge of how
JAVA works).

I'm still getting the "Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry" error.


Can you please shed some light on the following.

I think it may have to do with my jpos.xml config and / or my
epsonJposService18*.jar files.

1) In th example (I realize they'll be a bit different depending on the
version of ADK and your specific printer.) but in my jpos.xml entry I have
<JposEntry logicalName="EpsonTM">
        <creation factoryClass="
jp.co.epson.uposcommon.util.EpsonJposServiceInstanceFactory" serviceClass="
jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.T88IVService"/>

the class path is so much different than the example.  My question is
this.   How do I follow this path back to confirm?  I know in ofbiz (where I
actually learned how to follow these paths) that it's all in the "src" files
and you just follow the path org.ofbiz.pos etc. etc.  How do I follow the
JPOS entry?  I can't find anything to confirm if I need to change the
uposcommon to jpos180 (like in the instructions that you pointed me to).

2)  I still can't for the life of me find the 2 jars except where I found
them before.  I feel like I should be able to build them but I don't have a
build file ANYWHERE in my Epson ADK directory.   If there should be, than
that MAY be my problem!! ;)

as always,

Thanks guys!


On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Branden Strickland <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll read over that this weekend.
>
> Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but
> couldn't find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.
>
> Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get it.............
> :P
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Did you read this carefully :
> >
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-%C2%A0HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>;
> > Actually all the
> > page should interest you...
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> > > Update: still not working:
> > > I stole the .jars from
> > >
> > https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> > >
> > > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> > > I'm using JDK 1.6
> > > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
> > >
> > > I get this
> > > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62 :ERROR]
> > > ---- exception report
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > JPOS Exception
> > > Exception: jpos.JposException
> > > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > ---- stack trace
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
> > Source)
> > > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> > > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> > > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
> > JposDeviceContainer.java
> > > :50)
> > > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java
> > :79)
> > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks guys!
> > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a very
> > >> important question.
> > >>
> > >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
> > >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which
> > included
> > >> also setting up Java Communications API)
> > >>
> > >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> > >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere,
> > and as
> > >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> > >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get a
> > >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel
> > considered
> > >> a 24 pin serial?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Branden Strickland]

Apologies for the bad grammar in the last message.  It was a late night for
me.

I found this http://www.mail-archive.com/user@.../msg01641.html
and this
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/200705.mbox/%3C19637927.1179008295544.JavaMail.jira@brutus%3E

Which seem to be the same thread, but with Jacques's response missing from
the first post.

Has anyone gotten the new version of ADK to work?  It seems from those
threads that the ADK of 1.9 was in question.  I searched more this morning
in the EPSON ADK directory and still can't find a build file.  Infact,
although I installed the "dev" portion of the software, the only .java files
I get are from the examples directory.

Odd? I think so.

I'd say I'll just use an older version of ADK but I'm not sure if it'll work
on the TM 88IV that I have.


Ugh, This printer is the last piece to my little POS puzzle (for the time
being).  I got the ELO touchscreen working (with the help of OFBIZ docs) Now
I just have to finish this little piece and I can successfully start to do
all the other fun stuff :P

Gentlemen, your patience with me is amazing!

Thanks-

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Branden Strickland <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jacques,
>
> That page was a huge amount of help.  Unfortunately I'm still stuck at one
> particular par that I think you may at least (with your knowledge of how
> JAVA works).
>
> I'm still getting the "Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry"
> error.
>
> Can you please shed some light on the following.
>
> I think it may have to do with my jpos.xml config and / or my
> epsonJposService18*.jar files.
>
> 1) In th example (I realize they'll be a bit different depending on the
> version of ADK and your specific printer.) but in my jpos.xml entry I have
>
> <JposEntry logicalName="EpsonTM">
>         <creation factoryClass="
> jp.co.epson.uposcommon.util.EpsonJposServiceInstanceFactory"
> serviceClass="jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.T88IVService"/>
>
> the class path is so much different than the example.  My question is
> this.   How do I follow this path back to confirm?  I know in ofbiz (where I
> actually learned how to follow these paths) that it's all in the "src" files
> and you just follow the path org.ofbiz.pos etc. etc.  How do I follow the
> JPOS entry?  I can't find anything to confirm if I need to change the
> uposcommon to jpos180 (like in the instructions that you pointed me to).
>
> 2)  I still can't for the life of me find the 2 jars except where I found
> them before.  I feel like I should be able to build them but I don't have a
> build file ANYWHERE in my Epson ADK directory.   If there should be, than
> that MAY be my problem!! ;)
>
> as always,
>
> Thanks guys!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Branden Strickland <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I'll read over that this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but
> > couldn't find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.
> >
> > Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get it.............
> > :P
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Did you read this carefully :
> > >
> > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-%C2%A0HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>;
> > > Actually all the
> > > page should interest you...
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> > > > Update: still not working:
> > > > I stole the .jars from
> > > >
> > > https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> > > >
> > > > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> > > > I'm using JDK 1.6
> > > > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
> > > >
> > > > I get this
> > > > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62 :ERROR]
> > > > ---- exception report
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > JPOS Exception
> > > > Exception: jpos.JposException
> > > > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > > ---- stack trace
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
> > > Source)
> > > > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> > > > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> > > > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
> > > JposDeviceContainer.java
> > > > :50)
> > > > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java
> > > :79)
> > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks guys!
> > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a
> > > very
> > > >> important question.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable .
> > > >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which
> > > included
> > > >> also setting up Java Communications API)
> > > >>
> > > >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> > > >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find anywhere,
> > > and as
> > > >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> > > >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to get
> > > a
> > > >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel
> > > considered
> > > >> a 24 pin serial?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Branden Strickland]

AHAH!!! (excited find)

in the document describing changes in 1.9 (*EPSON JavaPOS ADK Application
Conversion Guide
(Changes to Version 1.9L/W)*

It states "2.1.3 File configuration
The configuration of the files that comprise EPSON JavaPOS ADK has changed.
The file configuration of the previous version was as follows (for Version
1.82L/W).

   - xercesImpl.jar
   - xml-apis.jar
   - Jpos18.jar
   - epsonJposService182.jar
   - epsonJposServiceCommon.jar

From Version 1.9L/W, the file configuration is as follows (for Version 1.9L
/W).

   - xercesImpl.jar
   - xml-apis.jar
   - jpos19.jar
   - epsonupos.jar
   - uposcommon.jar
   - linuxUsbDriver.jar
   - pos.jar

Please note that due to this change, it may be necessary to change the
parameters of the commands and so on when starting the application."

I'm not finished yet (as I'm at work...shhh don't tell the boss).  But I'm
hoping to confirm that I'm retarded tonight.  (I should have read the
document before...but as we've all seen... I'm a bit of "a bull in a china
shop" when it comes to reading before proceeding when I'm excited).

Branden -

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Branden Strickland <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Apologies for the bad grammar in the last message.  It was a late night
> for me.
>
> I found this
> http://www.mail-archive.com/user@.../msg01641.html
> and this
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/200705.mbox/%3C19637927.1179008295544.JavaMail.jira@brutus%3E
>
> Which seem to be the same thread, but with Jacques's response missing from
> the first post.
>
> Has anyone gotten the new version of ADK to work?  It seems from those
> threads that the ADK of 1.9 was in question.  I searched more this morning
> in the EPSON ADK directory and still can't find a build file.  Infact,
> although I installed the "dev" portion of the software, the only .java files
> I get are from the examples directory.
>
> Odd? I think so.
>
> I'd say I'll just use an older version of ADK but I'm not sure if it'll
> work on the TM 88IV that I have.
>
>
> Ugh, This printer is the last piece to my little POS puzzle (for the time
> being).  I got the ELO touchscreen working (with the help of OFBIZ docs) Now
> I just have to finish this little piece and I can successfully start to do
> all the other fun stuff :P
>
> Gentlemen, your patience with me is amazing!
>
> Thanks-
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Branden Strickland <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Jacques,
> >
> > That page was a huge amount of help.  Unfortunately I'm still stuck at
> > one particular par that I think you may at least (with your knowledge of how
> > JAVA works).
> >
> > I'm still getting the "Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry"
> > error.
> >
> > Can you please shed some light on the following.
> >
> > I think it may have to do with my jpos.xml config and / or my
> > epsonJposService18*.jar files.
> >
> > 1) In th example (I realize they'll be a bit different depending on the
> > version of ADK and your specific printer.) but in my jpos.xml entry I
> > have
> > <JposEntry logicalName="EpsonTM">
> >         <creation factoryClass="
> > jp.co.epson.uposcommon.util.EpsonJposServiceInstanceFactory"
> > serviceClass="jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.T88IVService"/>
> >
> > the class path is so much different than the example.  My question is
> > this.   How do I follow this path back to confirm?  I know in ofbiz (where I
> > actually learned how to follow these paths) that it's all in the "src" files
> > and you just follow the path org.ofbiz.pos etc. etc.  How do I follow
> > the JPOS entry?  I can't find anything to confirm if I need to change the
> > uposcommon to jpos180 (like in the instructions that you pointed me to).
> >
> > 2)  I still can't for the life of me find the 2 jars except where I
> > found them before.  I feel like I should be able to build them but I don't
> > have a build file ANYWHERE in my Epson ADK directory.   If there should be,
> > than that MAY be my problem!! ;)
> >
> > as always,
> >
> > Thanks guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll read over that this weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but
> > > couldn't find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.
> > >
> > > Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get
> > > it............. :P
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you read this carefully :
> > > >
> > > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-%C2%A0HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>;
> > > > Actually all the
> > > > page should interest you...
> > > >
> > > > Jacques
> > > >
> > > > From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> > > > > Update: still not working:
> > > > > I stole the .jars from
> > > > >
> > > > https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> > > > >
> > > > > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> > > > > I'm using JDK 1.6
> > > > > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
> > > > >
> > > > > I get this
> > > > > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62
> > > > :ERROR]
> > > > > ---- exception report
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > JPOS Exception
> > > > > Exception: jpos.JposException
> > > > > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > > > ---- stack trace
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> > > > > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
> > > > Source)
> > > > > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> > > > > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
> > > > JposDeviceContainer.java
> > > > > :50)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(
> > > > ContainerLoader.java:79)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks guys!
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a
> > > > very
> > > > >> important question.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable
> > > > .
> > > > >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which
> > > > included
> > > > >> also setting up Java Communications API)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> > > > >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find
> > > > anywhere, and as
> > > > >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> > > > >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to
> > > > get a
> > > > >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel
> > > > considered
> > > > >> a 24 pin serial?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Branden,

I'm pretty sure you can run your TM 88IV with 1.8 too. There is no essential stuffes in following versions (except if you need very
specific hardwares, check the differences)

Jacques

From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>

> AHAH!!! (excited find)
>
> in the document describing changes in 1.9 (*EPSON JavaPOS ADK Application
> Conversion Guide
> (Changes to Version 1.9L/W)*
>
> It states "2.1.3 File configuration
> The configuration of the files that comprise EPSON JavaPOS ADK has changed.
> The file configuration of the previous version was as follows (for Version
> 1.82L/W).
>
>   - xercesImpl.jar
>   - xml-apis.jar
>   - Jpos18.jar
>   - epsonJposService182.jar
>   - epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
>
>>From Version 1.9L/W, the file configuration is as follows (for Version 1.9L
> /W).
>
>   - xercesImpl.jar
>   - xml-apis.jar
>   - jpos19.jar
>   - epsonupos.jar
>   - uposcommon.jar
>   - linuxUsbDriver.jar
>   - pos.jar
>
> Please note that due to this change, it may be necessary to change the
> parameters of the commands and so on when starting the application."
>
> I'm not finished yet (as I'm at work...shhh don't tell the boss).  But I'm
> hoping to confirm that I'm retarded tonight.  (I should have read the
> document before...but as we've all seen... I'm a bit of "a bull in a china
> shop" when it comes to reading before proceeding when I'm excited).
>
> Branden -
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Branden Strickland <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Apologies for the bad grammar in the last message.  It was a late night
>> for me.
>>
>> I found this
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/user@.../msg01641.html
>> and this
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/200705.mbox/%3C19637927.1179008295544.JavaMail.jira@brutus%3E
>>
>> Which seem to be the same thread, but with Jacques's response missing from
>> the first post.
>>
>> Has anyone gotten the new version of ADK to work?  It seems from those
>> threads that the ADK of 1.9 was in question.  I searched more this morning
>> in the EPSON ADK directory and still can't find a build file.  Infact,
>> although I installed the "dev" portion of the software, the only .java files
>> I get are from the examples directory.
>>
>> Odd? I think so.
>>
>> I'd say I'll just use an older version of ADK but I'm not sure if it'll
>> work on the TM 88IV that I have.
>>
>>
>> Ugh, This printer is the last piece to my little POS puzzle (for the time
>> being).  I got the ELO touchscreen working (with the help of OFBIZ docs) Now
>> I just have to finish this little piece and I can successfully start to do
>> all the other fun stuff :P
>>
>> Gentlemen, your patience with me is amazing!
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Branden Strickland <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Jacques,
>> >
>> > That page was a huge amount of help.  Unfortunately I'm still stuck at
>> > one particular par that I think you may at least (with your knowledge of how
>> > JAVA works).
>> >
>> > I'm still getting the "Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry"
>> > error.
>> >
>> > Can you please shed some light on the following.
>> >
>> > I think it may have to do with my jpos.xml config and / or my
>> > epsonJposService18*.jar files.
>> >
>> > 1) In th example (I realize they'll be a bit different depending on the
>> > version of ADK and your specific printer.) but in my jpos.xml entry I
>> > have
>> > <JposEntry logicalName="EpsonTM">
>> >         <creation factoryClass="
>> > jp.co.epson.uposcommon.util.EpsonJposServiceInstanceFactory"
>> > serviceClass="jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.T88IVService"/>
>> >
>> > the class path is so much different than the example.  My question is
>> > this.   How do I follow this path back to confirm?  I know in ofbiz (where I
>> > actually learned how to follow these paths) that it's all in the "src" files
>> > and you just follow the path org.ofbiz.pos etc. etc.  How do I follow
>> > the JPOS entry?  I can't find anything to confirm if I need to change the
>> > uposcommon to jpos180 (like in the instructions that you pointed me to).
>> >
>> > 2)  I still can't for the life of me find the 2 jars except where I
>> > found them before.  I feel like I should be able to build them but I don't
>> > have a build file ANYWHERE in my Epson ADK directory.   If there should be,
>> > than that MAY be my problem!! ;)
>> >
>> > as always,
>> >
>> > Thanks guys!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Branden Strickland <
>> > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'll read over that this weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but
>> > > couldn't find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.
>> > >
>> > > Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get
>> > > it............. :P
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Did you read this carefully :
>> > > >
>> > > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-%C2%A0HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>;
>> > > > Actually all the
>> > > > page should interest you...
>> > > >
>> > > > Jacques
>> > > >
>> > > > From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
>> > > > > Update: still not working:
>> > > > > I stole the .jars from
>> > > > >
>> > > > https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
>> > > > >
>> > > > > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
>> > > > > I'm using JDK 1.6
>> > > > > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I get this
>> > > > > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62
>> > > > :ERROR]
>> > > > > ---- exception report
>> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > JPOS Exception
>> > > > > Exception: jpos.JposException
>> > > > > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
>> > > > > ---- stack trace
>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
>> > > > > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection(Unknown
>> > > > Source)
>> > > > > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
>> > > > > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
>> > > > JposDeviceContainer.java
>> > > > > :50)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(
>> > > > ContainerLoader.java:79)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
>> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks guys!
>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
>> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have a
>> > > > very
>> > > > >> important question.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial cable
>> > > > .
>> > > > >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which
>> > > > included
>> > > > >> also setting up Java Communications API)
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
>> > > > >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find
>> > > > anywhere, and as
>> > > > >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
>> > > > >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have to
>> > > > get a
>> > > > >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is parallel
>> > > > considered
>> > > > >> a 24 pin serial?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

[Branden Strickland]

oh I'd love to use the other version, but I can't find it anywhere to
download!  That one has nice instructions and everything!

I think i'm almost through this one, but If anyone knows where to grab 1.8,
I'd be happy.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Branden,
>
> I'm pretty sure you can run your TM 88IV with 1.8 too. There is no
> essential stuffes in following versions (except if you need very
> specific hardwares, check the differences)
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> > AHAH!!! (excited find)
> >
> > in the document describing changes in 1.9 (*EPSON JavaPOS ADK
> Application
> > Conversion Guide
> > (Changes to Version 1.9L/W)*
> >
> > It states "2.1.3 File configuration
> > The configuration of the files that comprise EPSON JavaPOS ADK has
> changed.
> > The file configuration of the previous version was as follows (for
> Version
> > 1.82L/W).
> >
> >   - xercesImpl.jar
> >   - xml-apis.jar
> >   - Jpos18.jar
> >   - epsonJposService182.jar
> >   - epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> >
> >>From Version 1.9L/W, the file configuration is as follows (for Version
> 1.9L
> > /W).
> >
> >   - xercesImpl.jar
> >   - xml-apis.jar
> >   - jpos19.jar
> >   - epsonupos.jar
> >   - uposcommon.jar
> >   - linuxUsbDriver.jar
> >   - pos.jar
> >
> > Please note that due to this change, it may be necessary to change the
> > parameters of the commands and so on when starting the application."
> >
> > I'm not finished yet (as I'm at work...shhh don't tell the boss).  But
> I'm
> > hoping to confirm that I'm retarded tonight.  (I should have read the
> > document before...but as we've all seen... I'm a bit of "a bull in a
> china
> > shop" when it comes to reading before proceeding when I'm excited).
> >
> > Branden -
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Branden Strickland <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Apologies for the bad grammar in the last message.  It was a late night
> >> for me.
> >>
> >> I found this
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/user@.../msg01641.html
> >> and this
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/200705.mbox/%3C19637927.1179008295544.JavaMail.jira@brutus%3E
> >>
> >> Which seem to be the same thread, but with Jacques's response missing
> from
> >> the first post.
> >>
> >> Has anyone gotten the new version of ADK to work?  It seems from those
> >> threads that the ADK of 1.9 was in question.  I searched more this
> morning
> >> in the EPSON ADK directory and still can't find a build file.  Infact,
> >> although I installed the "dev" portion of the software, the only .java
> files
> >> I get are from the examples directory.
> >>
> >> Odd? I think so.
> >>
> >> I'd say I'll just use an older version of ADK but I'm not sure if it'll
> >> work on the TM 88IV that I have.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ugh, This printer is the last piece to my little POS puzzle (for the
> time
> >> being).  I got the ELO touchscreen working (with the help of OFBIZ
> docs) Now
> >> I just have to finish this little piece and I can successfully start to
> do
> >> all the other fun stuff :P
> >>
> >> Gentlemen, your patience with me is amazing!
> >>
> >> Thanks-
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Branden Strickland <
> >> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jacques,
> >> >
> >> > That page was a huge amount of help.  Unfortunately I'm still stuck
> at
> >> > one particular par that I think you may at least (with your knowledge
> of how
> >> > JAVA works).
> >> >
> >> > I'm still getting the "Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry"
> >> > error.
> >> >
> >> > Can you please shed some light on the following.
> >> >
> >> > I think it may have to do with my jpos.xml config and / or my
> >> > epsonJposService18*.jar files.
> >> >
> >> > 1) In th example (I realize they'll be a bit different depending on
> the
> >> > version of ADK and your specific printer.) but in my jpos.xml entry I
> >> > have
> >> > <JposEntry logicalName="EpsonTM">
> >> >         <creation factoryClass="
> >> > jp.co.epson.uposcommon.util.EpsonJposServiceInstanceFactory"
> >> > serviceClass="jp.co.epson.upos.pntr.T88IVService"/>
> >> >
> >> > the class path is so much different than the example.  My question is
> >> > this.   How do I follow this path back to confirm?  I know in ofbiz
> (where I
> >> > actually learned how to follow these paths) that it's all in the
> "src" files
> >> > and you just follow the path org.ofbiz.pos etc. etc.  How do I follow
> >> > the JPOS entry?  I can't find anything to confirm if I need to change
> the
> >> > uposcommon to jpos180 (like in the instructions that you pointed me
> to).
> >> >
> >> > 2)  I still can't for the life of me find the 2 jars except where I
> >> > found them before.  I feel like I should be able to build them but I
> don't
> >> > have a build file ANYWHERE in my Epson ADK directory.   If there
> should be,
> >> > than that MAY be my problem!! ;)
> >> >
> >> > as always,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks guys!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Branden Strickland <
> >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'll read over that this weekend.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks Jacques.. .I was actually looking for this page earlier but
> >> > > couldn't find it by searching at ofbiz.apache.org.
> >> > >
> >> > > Appreciate it.. I'll be sure to post back if I don't get
> >> > > it............. :P
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Did you read this carefully :
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?\!&nbsp<http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-&nbsp;HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp>
> <
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-%C2%A0HowsetuptheEpsonJavaPOSADK1.801.82forOFBiz?%5C%21&nbsp
> >;
> >> > > > Actually all the
> >> > > > page should interest you...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jacques
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: "Branden Strickland" <[hidden email]>
> >> > > > > Update: still not working:
> >> > > > > I stole the .jars from
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> https://svn.hotwaxmedia.com/crucible/browse/ofbiz/trunk/applications/pos/lib/epsonJposServiceCommon.jar
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > put them in specialpurpose/pos/lib/
> >> > > > > I'm using JDK 1.6
> >> > > > > EPSON JavaPOS ADK Ver.1.11L
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I get this
> >> > > > > 2008-03-20 13:42:43,575 (main) [       DeviceLoader.java:62
> >> > > > :ERROR]
> >> > > > > ---- exception report
> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > > JPOS Exception
> >> > > > > Exception: jpos.JposException
> >> > > > > Message: Service does not exist in loaded JCL registry
> >> > > > > ---- stack trace
> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > > jpos.JposException: Service does not exist in loaded JCL
> registry
> >> > > > > jpos.loader.simple.SimpleServiceManager.createConnection
> (Unknown
> >> > > > Source)
> >> > > > > jpos.loader.JposServiceLoader.findService(Unknown Source)
> >> > > > > jpos.BaseJposControl.open(Unknown Source)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.GenericDevice.open(GenericDevice.java:44)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.device.DeviceLoader.load(DeviceLoader.java:60)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.pos.container.JposDeviceContainer.start(
> >> > > > JposDeviceContainer.java
> >> > > > > :50)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(
> >> > > > ContainerLoader.java:79)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:261)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:310)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:314)
> >> > > > > org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:397)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks guys!
> >> > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Branden Strickland <
> >> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Ok, I think about set up with this thermal printer, but I have
> a
> >> > > > very
> >> > > > >> important question.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> I've gone through and set up  Linux's  RXTX for the serial
> cable
> >> > > > .
> >> > > > >> I've set up  EPSON JavaPOS ADK for TM series printers. (which
> >> > > > included
> >> > > > >> also setting up Java Communications API)
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> I can't for the life of me figure out 2 things.
> >> > > > >> 1) I'm required to provide 2 jar files that I can't find
> >> > > > anywhere, and as
> >> > > > >> far as I can tell, I can't build the jar from anything either.
> >> > > > >> 2) My thermal printer is parallel right now, I probably have
> to
> >> > > > get a
> >> > > > >> parallel to serial converter for this to work eh?  Or is
> parallel
> >> > > > considered
> >> > > > >> a 24 pin serial?
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Thanks!
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>