Product Status?
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Hi Guys,
I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being generated in the system would it? Thanks for the help Sam |
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Sam, The general idea with OFBiz is that a Product may be in various stores, and may be active or not in each store. This is usually done by having a catalog associated with the store, and then view and purchase allow categories (or often the same category for both) associated with each catalog. Then basically the product is "active" as long as the product is in that category, within the from/thru dates configured. In addition to these there is a flag on the Product entity to discontinue when inventory is out, which is intended for use as you describe (ie for products to no longer carry). -David On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! > > I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. > > I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being generated in the system would it? > > Thanks for the help > Sam |
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Hi David,
Thanks for the reply, I spotted the product discontinue flag now you explained it and thats a great help. I had a look round the demo install but could not see an example of a product categorised in both view and purchase - did I miss the right product? Do you mean by this that there are two identical category structures one for viewing only (a way of recording the correct location of the product) and the other is if the product should say active on a website ready for sale. Then if there is a problem with the product then it can be removed from the sale category and its no longer on the website? If thats the way to disable products then I suppose after a period of time quite a few would end up in view only categories and a method would be needed to find and list out these products? Something like products not discountinued, with stock in view cateogory only - excuse the ramble just thinking aloud. Many thanks! Sam -----Original Message----- From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, 10 December, 2009 14:38 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Product Status? Sam, The general idea with OFBiz is that a Product may be in various stores, and may be active or not in each store. This is usually done by having a catalog associated with the store, and then view and purchase allow categories (or often the same category for both) associated with each catalog. Then basically the product is "active" as long as the product is in that category, within the from/thru dates configured. In addition to these there is a flag on the Product entity to discontinue when inventory is out, which is intended for use as you describe (ie for products to no longer carry). -David On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! > > I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. > > I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being generated in the system would it? > > Thanks for the help > Sam |
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http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-Catalog,Category,ProductSetup Jacques () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org From: <[hidden email]> > Hi David, > > Thanks for the reply, I spotted the product discontinue flag now you explained it and thats a great help. > > I had a look round the demo install but could not see an example of a product categorised in both view and purchase - did I miss > the right product? Do you mean by this that there are two identical category structures one for viewing only (a way of recording > the correct location of the product) and the other is if the product should say active on a website ready for sale. Then if there > is a problem with the product then it can be removed from the sale category and its no longer on the website? > > If thats the way to disable products then I suppose after a period of time quite a few would end up in view only categories and a > method would be needed to find and list out these products? Something like products not discountinued, with stock in view > cateogory only - excuse the ramble just thinking aloud. > > Many thanks! > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, 10 December, 2009 14:38 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Product Status? > > > Sam, > > The general idea with OFBiz is that a Product may be in various stores, and may be active or not in each store. > > This is usually done by having a catalog associated with the store, and then view and purchase allow categories (or often the same > category for both) associated with each catalog. Then basically the product is "active" as long as the product is in that > category, within the from/thru dates configured. > > In addition to these there is a flag on the Product entity to discontinue when inventory is out, which is intended for use as you > describe (ie for products to no longer carry). > > -David > > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz >> enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! >> >> I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the >> product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" >> to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the >> same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. >> >> I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being >> generated in the system would it? >> >> Thanks for the help >> Sam > > > > |
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The catalog manager searching, and operations based on search results, help a lot in this area. Usually the view/purchase allow categories are actually setup by searching for all products in a certain category tree (ie in a category or any of its sub-categories) and then adding all of those products to the view/purchase allow category. Finding expired/etc products can also be done with searches. -David On Dec 10, 2009, at 7:23 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for the reply, I spotted the product discontinue flag now you explained it and thats a great help. > > I had a look round the demo install but could not see an example of a product categorised in both view and purchase - did I miss the right product? Do you mean by this that there are two identical category structures one for viewing only (a way of recording the correct location of the product) and the other is if the product should say active on a website ready for sale. Then if there is a problem with the product then it can be removed from the sale category and its no longer on the website? > > If thats the way to disable products then I suppose after a period of time quite a few would end up in view only categories and a method would be needed to find and list out these products? Something like products not discountinued, with stock in view cateogory only - excuse the ramble just thinking aloud. > > Many thanks! > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, 10 December, 2009 14:38 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Product Status? > > > Sam, > > The general idea with OFBiz is that a Product may be in various stores, and may be active or not in each store. > > This is usually done by having a catalog associated with the store, and then view and purchase allow categories (or often the same category for both) associated with each catalog. Then basically the product is "active" as long as the product is in that category, within the from/thru dates configured. > > In addition to these there is a flag on the Product entity to discontinue when inventory is out, which is intended for use as you describe (ie for products to no longer carry). > > -David > > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! >> >> I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. >> >> I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being generated in the system would it? >> >> Thanks for the help >> Sam > > > |
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Thanks David & Jacques - going away to read and inwardly digest!
Cheers Sam On 10/12/2009 18:16, David E Jones wrote: > The catalog manager searching, and operations based on search results, help a lot in this area. > > Usually the view/purchase allow categories are actually setup by searching for all products in a certain category tree (ie in a category or any of its sub-categories) and then adding all of those products to the view/purchase allow category. > > Finding expired/etc products can also be done with searches. > > -David > > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 7:23 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > >> Hi David, >> >> Thanks for the reply, I spotted the product discontinue flag now you explained it and thats a great help. >> >> I had a look round the demo install but could not see an example of a product categorised in both view and purchase - did I miss the right product? Do you mean by this that there are two identical category structures one for viewing only (a way of recording the correct location of the product) and the other is if the product should say active on a website ready for sale. Then if there is a problem with the product then it can be removed from the sale category and its no longer on the website? >> >> If thats the way to disable products then I suppose after a period of time quite a few would end up in view only categories and a method would be needed to find and list out these products? Something like products not discountinued, with stock in view cateogory only - excuse the ramble just thinking aloud. >> >> Many thanks! >> Sam >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "David E Jones"<[hidden email]> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 December, 2009 14:38 >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Product Status? >> >> >> Sam, >> >> The general idea with OFBiz is that a Product may be in various stores, and may be active or not in each store. >> >> This is usually done by having a catalog associated with the store, and then view and purchase allow categories (or often the same category for both) associated with each catalog. Then basically the product is "active" as long as the product is in that category, within the from/thru dates configured. >> >> In addition to these there is a flag on the Product entity to discontinue when inventory is out, which is intended for use as you describe (ie for products to no longer carry). >> >> -David >> >> >> On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> I am trying to get my head around product status in OFBiz and its probably because I dont understand the logic behind OFBiz enough that I am not getting it so your help would be most gratefully received! >>> >>> I am used to ecommerce systems where a product is in the simplest terms either "active" or "disabled" and this controls if the product is on the website or not. Sometimes in the past we have expanded this function to include a status like "clearing stock" to show everyone not to reorder a product because we are about to discontinue it. What I dont understand is how to achieve the same from within OFBiz as it does not seem to have a master product status. >>> >>> I did find that a specific inventory item has a status id for on hold or defective but this wouldn't stop a new requirement being generated in the system would it? >>> >>> Thanks for the help >>> Sam >>> >> >> >> > |
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I have really a simple question but there's something simple I cant do. How to add a product to a catalog I've problems understanding the catalogue I've read the wiki but there's something I don't understand about the addition of the product. That's what I've tried to do: went to the catalog manager main page Clicked on shortcut new product Entered all the needed information and the product successfully created when I click on certain catalog there's no tab for products that exists in that catalog should I add this product to a store then add the store to the catalog if so how? Thanks in advance |
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Also I've a question about the product status and when it shall be available I know this is asked before but I want to make sure that I get it correctly First:
If I created the product and didnt put an introduction date what will be the status of that product? will it be disabled? will it appear in the lookups for sales orders and catalogs? I'm asking these questions because I want to follow this scenario: someone will have the role to create a new product but this product will not be activated and shouldn't appear to lookup of sales orders and no one can add it to the catalogue untill someone creates add the prices and suppliers and such stuff so I was thinking of using the advantage of introduction date instead of making new statuses Thanks in advance |
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These links might be of help
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-how-to-setup-the-ofbiz-catalog-manager/ http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-managing-cross-sell-products-in-ofbiz/ Shereen wrote: > Hi All > > I have really a simple question but there's something simple I cant do. > How to add a product to a catalog I've problems understanding the catalogue > I've read the wiki but there's something I don't understand about the > addition of the product. > > That's what I've tried to do: > went to the catalog manager main page > Clicked on shortcut new product > > Entered all the needed information and the product successfully created > when I click on certain catalog there's no tab for products that exists in > that catalog > should I add this product to a store then add the store to the catalog if so > how? > > Thanks in advance > Thanks & Regards Atul Vani Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/ We are the Global Leaders in Apache OFBiz, Google 'ofbiz' and see for yourself. |
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Ruth Hoffman,s Book is the best at the moment
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books otherwise you can search the mail archives for such answers. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Mailing+Lists see Searchable Archives ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > Shereen sent the following on 11/1/2010 6:22 AM: > Hi All > > I have really a simple question but there's something simple I cant do. > How to add a product to a catalog I've problems understanding the catalogue > I've read the wiki but there's something I don't understand about the > addition of the product. > > That's what I've tried to do: > went to the catalog manager main page > Clicked on shortcut new product > > Entered all the needed information and the product successfully created > when I click on certain catalog there's no tab for products that exists in > that catalog > should I add this product to a store then add the store to the catalog if so > how? > > Thanks in advance > |
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Thanks Freeman Thanks Atul
I saw the links of the tutorials you sent me. unfortunately they didnt include my answers About Ruth Hoffman I've the other book called Apache_Ofbiz_Development_for_Beginners from packet publisher too it's a technical book when I viewed the table of contents of Ruth's book I found it from a technical point of view too right? I think my questions are more of a user just how at product to catalog when it will be active and such staff is those issues discussed in the book or I can find it somewhere else? Thanks in advance |
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Hi Shereen,
Those links don't answer your question directly. I gave them to you thinking that you will understand how Catalog Manager works and then will figure out the answer yourself. About your question, goto EditProduct page, there you will find 'Categories' tab, from here you can associate the porduct to multiple categories and catalog. Categories can have child categories too. I hope that solves your problem :) Shereen wrote: > Thanks Freeman Thanks Atul > > I saw the links of the tutorials you sent me. > unfortunately they didnt include my answers > > About Ruth Hoffman I've the other book called > Apache_Ofbiz_Development_for_Beginners from packet publisher too > it's a technical book > when I viewed the table of contents of Ruth's book I found it from a > technical point of view too right? > > I think my questions are more of a user just how at product to catalog when > it will be active and such staff is those issues discussed in the book or I > can find it somewhere else? > > Thanks in advance > Thanks & Regards Atul Vani Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/ We are the Global Leaders in Apache OFBiz, Google 'ofbiz' and see for yourself. |
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Some Ruth's books are more user oriented (feature, how to, etc.), have a look at the sample page of
http://www.myofbiz.com/ecommerce/products/PROMOTIONS/p_PUB-0710 Jacques From: "Shereen" <[hidden email]> > Thanks Freeman Thanks Atul > > I saw the links of the tutorials you sent me. > unfortunately they didnt include my answers > > About Ruth Hoffman I've the other book called > Apache_Ofbiz_Development_for_Beginners from packet publisher too > it's a technical book > when I viewed the table of contents of Ruth's book I found it from a > technical point of view too right? > > I think my questions are more of a user just how at product to catalog when > it will be active and such staff is those issues discussed in the book or I > can find it somewhere else? > > Thanks in advance > -- > View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Product-Status-tp956708p3023275.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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Thanks Atul
Thanks Jacques I didnt look at the series you are mentioning in your link Actually I search for the general Apache Ofbiz Cookbook and it seemed to me technical. Anyway I'll see if I can buy the book you told me about Thanks a lot and if anyone who passed through these stages and can inform me how to do this that will be also great :) |
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*Hi *Shereen,
I think that you created the product from, https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org:8443/catalog/control/main page. But, It is better create from inside of an category. Because it asks for 'Primary Category', in the form which is essential key for association. Secondly you may give *Introduction Date* hard coded and future date like (today's date+10 day) and later it may be updated by another person like admin or so. By the way by using future date in *Introduction Date *'2010-11-25 17:14:21.140' . It shows 'Not Yet Available' means product is not available for sale. your product is being created and it may be searched from search catalog with 'all option like ' http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org:8080/ecommerce/control/keywordsearch/~VIEW_SIZE=10/~VIEW_INDEX=3/~clearSearch=N;jsessionid=15DDE256851D8C0778A4A6702369F0FF.jvm1by *Sincerely Yours, Santosh Singh.** [hidden email]* On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Shereen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks Atul > Thanks Jacques I didnt look at the series you are mentioning in your link > Actually I search for the general Apache Ofbiz Cookbook and it seemed to me > technical. > Anyway I'll see if I can buy the book you told me about > Thanks a lot and if anyone who passed through these stages and can inform > me > how to do this that will be also great :) > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Product-Status-tp956708p3023496.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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Hi Santosh
Thanks a lot for trying to help me. I followed your advice and I created the products from category and it's really better to do so this way because simply I make my categories in a hierarchical way so simply I'll go to the child category and create the product. About the status of the product I also tried to do what u told me and I set introduction date in 2011 but in appeared in the product lookup screen however :( But when I tried to add to the order it gave me error telling me it's not ready for sale. is there a way where it may not appear in the product list of sales order? Thanks in advance |
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as an alternative for mass setup you can copy the demo data format and
do a file import through webtools or ./ant run-install-file. also do a ./ant -p for all the utilities you can use from commandline. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Shereen sent the following on 11/3/2010 12:17 AM: > > Hi Santosh > > Thanks a lot for trying to help me. I followed your advice and I created the > products from category and it's really better to do so this way because > simply I make my categories in a hierarchical way so simply I'll go to the > child category and create the product. > > About the status of the product I also tried to do what u told me and I set > introduction date in 2011 but in appeared in the product lookup screen > however :( > > But when I tried to add to the order it gave me error telling me it's not > ready for sale. is there a way where it may not appear in the product list > of sales order? > > Thanks in advance |
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