Proposed text changes to the build.ofbiz.org download web page
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Thanks for the restatement - I really appreciate it.
My point was that we already have a download page for the Release Branch which already has the button linked that you're asking for and it's found on the Branches / Releases page right here - http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php . Let's leave the main download page the way it is for now and we'll rethink the strategy around pushing people to a particular version so that it matches what the truth is about the project. Right now it reflects the real work we live in with OFBiz - not saying that's what it should be long term - just that I'm reluctant to simply just push people to the 9.04 branch until we have more discussion and recalibration around the strategy - and update our documentation to reflect it. Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Tim: > What I meant to say is: > I'm ok with the changes you made to the OFBiz download page. Thanks. > Regards, > Ruth > ---------------------------------------------------- > Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" > [hidden email] > > Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> Hi Tim: >> I don't get your point. What is wrong with http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php? >> FYI - I don't care so much about the feedback. I just want new users and casual "downloaders" to have a reasonable shot at a successful download and a first-time OFBiz experience. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>> Still a bad idea. Have you even seen the branches / releases page which does exactly what you're asking? http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php - take a peek because then we can stop all of this around pushing people to the 9.04 release. As I've said seemingly a million times, until the things that you said are true (IE - that you will get faster, more reliable feedback from the community on the 9.04 release), then we need to stop pushing this point. It's simply not the case. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> -- >>> Tim Ruppert >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> o:801.649.6594 >>> f:801.649.6595 >>> >>> On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ryan: >>>> We could say that. Please say that! And please, have that button point to a 9.04 build. >>>> >>>> Currently, that button does not point to a download of OFBiz 9.04. Instead you get the latest trunk build. [Hence all my original confusion and misunderstanding about what was going on.] So, yes, please make that button point to a OFBiz 9.04 build and add that text to the button. That would be a wonderful compromise. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" >>>> [hidden email] >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>> >>>>> I see no reason to add "New Users" to the download button, as they are not the only people who download OFBiz. Take a look at another Open Source project that has 10 million downloads as an example, WordPress. I love the fact that they display a big download button right in the middle of their homepage, and also highlight their download button in their navigation (http://wordpress.org). We could simply change the button to say "Download OFBiz 9.04", in a similar fashion. This states exactly what the action is for new users, and tells existing users in 2 seconds what release the project is on. >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Foster >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim et al: >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I'm not sure I know what the difference is between the column labeled "Nightly Trunk Builds" and the one labeled "Archived Trunk Builds". Why both? >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, but not to get hung up on that...here's my first go-round at suggested changes: >>>>>> >>>>>> For starters, how about something like the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Change the big download button on the right of the page to point to the latest nightly 9.04 release build. (Not the trunk build). Also, change the text on that button from "DOWNLOAD OFBIZ" to: "New Users DOWNLOAD OFBIZ Here!". >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Change the "OFBiz Nightly Trunk Releases" heading to: >>>>>> "OFBiz Nightly Release Builds" >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) Swap the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column with the "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" column so that "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" may be easily seen by new users. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4) Under the "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" column, put something like the following: >>>>>> [Recommended for new users. The most stable code base. All current stable features. The best option for getting community help.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so links. Add a link to list other, older builds after the 5 most recent. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5) Under the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column, put something like the following: >>>>>> [Recommended for project committers and those who want the latest and greatest code. May not be as stable as the 9.04 nightly release builds.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older builds after the 5 most recent.] >>>>>> >>>>>> 6) Under the "Nightly Release 4.0 Builds" column, put something like the following: >>>>>> [Recommended for (legacy) compatibility with earlier releases of OFBiz. >>>>>> Not recommended for new development where compatibility with the 9.04 release is desired. >>>>>> Note: support for Release 4.0 builds may be difficult to find and hence this release is not recommended for new users.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older builds after the 5 most recent. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to see how those changes look. That might be enough to minimize any confusion. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> |
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