Question: Free available skeleton of simple shop and portal solution based on OFBiz

[Mark Schneider]

Hello,

Is there a free available and working skeleton of simple shop and portal
solution based on OFBiz?

The included ecommerce example makes rather an impression of unfinished,
too complex and undocumented. So it is difficult to use it for newcomers.

The BigFish demo shop is also quite complex and difficult to follow.

What are recommended books and tutorials for current OFBiz?. I have
checked the list of recommended books on project website
(https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-related-books.html), however I
didn't get the possibility to look inside them yet and these books are
already few years old (probably not up to date).

Thank you in advance for any hints.

regrards, Mark

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[Paul Piper]

Hi Mark,

sorry for the long delay on an answer: The eCommerce app found within the special purpose directory is more of a demo-case rather than a complete store. It gives you all the functions you could ask for, but is agreeably very very difficult to use for smaller stores. Usually, people who want to use the OFBiz ERP Framework for something like this they:

a) Either take the ecommerce component and reduce/simplify on their own

or

b) Turn to Third-Party implementers and use one of their standardized components.

As an example for the latter: we on our hand have created our own simplified store, which you can take a sneak-peek here: http://www.syracus.net . It comes with some advanced features, like a fully integrated Solr Search, facetted navigation, responsive design and so on. There's been some discussions whether one of the agencies may contribute their own store to the project, but at the moment it is as it is ;)

Apart from that: I can highly recommend both books and in particular the beginners tutorial.

Regards,
Paul

P.S.: Da du ja deutsch zu seien scheinst - Wenn Du magst kannst Du natürlich auch gerne einmal durchrufen. Dann kann ich dir vielleicht ein paar gute Tipps geben.

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[Mark Schneider]

Thank you very much for your answer Paul.

Am 13.11.2012 09:10, schrieb madppiper:

> The eCommerce app found within the
> special purpose directory is more of a demo-case rather than a complete
> store. It gives you all the functions you could ask for, but is agreeably
> very very difficult to use for smaller stores. Usually, people who want to
> use the OFBiz ERP Framework for something like this they:
>
> a) Either take the ecommerce component and reduce/simplify on their own
>
> or
>
> b) Turn to Third-Party implementers and use one of their standardized
> components.
>
> As an example for the latter: we on our hand have created our own simplified
> store, which you can take a sneak-peek here: http://www.syracus.net . It
> comes with some advanced features, like a fully integrated Solr Search,
> facetted navigation, responsive design and so on. There's been some
> discussions whether one of the agencies may contribute their own store to
> the project, but at the moment it is as it is ;)

It makes a very good impression (http://www.syracus.net) - thank you.
What I am interested in are sources of such solutions one could use
after few minor modifications. BigFish source is a nice example however
a bit complex for the start (for me yet).

The OFBiz framework makes a *very* good impression however with long
learning curve. I am missing examples (open sources) of ready to go
(with minor changes) OFBiz applications. I have found already some free
available documentation but I need some time more to study it en détail
(deeper).

I guess there are also some open solutions for websites and special
portal solutions like eg. *uPortal*.


> Apart from that: I can highly recommend both books and in particular the
> beginners tutorial.
I am not sure about the second book (*Apache OfBiz Cookbook* from
packtpbub.com):
*Apache OFBiz Development: The Beginner's Tutorial* [eBook]
Jonathon Wong
Using Services, Entities, and Widgets to build custom ERP and CRM systems
1       Available now   £18.99  eBook bundle discount -50.00% (£9.50)  
No tax  £*9.50*

*Apache OfBiz Cookbook* [eBook]
Ruth Hoffman
Over 60 simple but incredibly effective recipes for taking control of OFBiz
1       Available now   £16.99  eBook bundle discount -50.00% (£8.50)  
No tax  £*8.50*

Or do you mean some other books like:
The Data Model Resource Book, *Vol. 1*: A Library of Universal Data
Models for All Enterprises
The Data Model Resource Book, *Vol. 2*: A Library of Data Models for
Specific Industries
The Data Model Resource Book, *Vol. 3*: Universal Patterns for Data
Modeling

There is also another book:
Title: *OFBiz E-Commerce Out-Of-The-Box* Author: Ruth Hoffman
Publication Date: Winter 2011

I don't have the possiblity just to look inside them as they are locally
not available in book stores here (Zürich).


> P.S.: Da du ja deutsch zu seien scheinst - Wenn Du magst kannst Du natürlich
> auch gerne einmal durchrufen. Dann kann ich dir vielleicht ein paar gute
> Tipps geben.
Vielen Dank. Ich schreibe Dir direkt (falls es für Dich OK ist).


Thank you in advance for feedback like ideas or hints.

regards, Mark

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[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Mark:
I also have an example (work in progress :-) of an OFBiz ecommerce
implementation that sells OFBiz related learning materials...books etc.
Please have a look: http://www.myofbiz.com.
Best Regards,
Ruth Hoffman
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On 11/13/12 3:10 AM, madppiper wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> sorry for the long delay on an answer: The eCommerce app found within the
> special purpose directory is more of a demo-case rather than a complete
> store. It gives you all the functions you could ask for, but is agreeably
> very very difficult to use for smaller stores. Usually, people who want to
> use the OFBiz ERP Framework for something like this they:
>
> a) Either take the ecommerce component and reduce/simplify on their own
>
> or
>
> b) Turn to Third-Party implementers and use one of their standardized
> components.
>
> As an example for the latter: we on our hand have created our own simplified
> store, which you can take a sneak-peek here: http://www.syracus.net . It
> comes with some advanced features, like a fully integrated Solr Search,
> facetted navigation, responsive design and so on. There's been some
> discussions whether one of the agencies may contribute their own store to
> the project, but at the moment it is as it is ;)
>
> Apart from that: I can highly recommend both books and in particular the
> beginners tutorial.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> P.S.: Da du ja deutsch zu seien scheinst - Wenn Du magst kannst Du natürlich
> auch gerne einmal durchrufen. Dann kann ich dir vielleicht ein paar gute
> Tipps geben.
>
> ---
> Paul Piper
> Geschäftsführer
>  
>  
> Web: http://www.ilscipio.com
> Tel: [phone]
> Mobil: ([phone]
> Fax: [phone]
> eMail: [hidden email]
>
>  
> ilscipio GmbH
> Am Drosselschlag 7
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> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Mark:
To be more specific, the entire site, including blog, free content and
"library" download webpp is run using OFBiz. The ecommerce shopping
webapp is located at:
http://www.myofbiz.com/ecommerce

Regards,
Ruth
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On 11/13/12 8:36 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Mark:
> I also have an example (work in progress :-) of an OFBiz ecommerce
> implementation that sells OFBiz related learning materials...books etc.
> Please have a look: http://www.myofbiz.com.
> Best Regards,
> Ruth Hoffman
> [hidden email]
> web: http://www.aesolves.com
>
> On 11/13/12 3:10 AM, madppiper wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> sorry for the long delay on an answer: The eCommerce app found within
>> the
>> special purpose directory is more of a demo-case rather than a complete
>> store. It gives you all the functions you could ask for, but is
>> agreeably
>> very very difficult to use for smaller stores. Usually, people who
>> want to
>> use the OFBiz ERP Framework for something like this they:
>>
>> a) Either take the ecommerce component and reduce/simplify on their own
>>
>> or
>>
>> b) Turn to Third-Party implementers and use one of their standardized
>> components.
>>
>> As an example for the latter: we on our hand have created our own
>> simplified
>> store, which you can take a sneak-peek here: http://www.syracus.net . It
>> comes with some advanced features, like a fully integrated Solr Search,
>> facetted navigation, responsive design and so on. There's been some
>> discussions whether one of the agencies may contribute their own
>> store to
>> the project, but at the moment it is as it is ;)
>>
>> Apart from that: I can highly recommend both books and in particular the
>> beginners tutorial.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>> P.S.: Da du ja deutsch zu seien scheinst - Wenn Du magst kannst Du
>> natürlich
>> auch gerne einmal durchrufen. Dann kann ich dir vielleicht ein paar gute
>> Tipps geben.
>>
>> ---
>> Paul Piper
>> Geschäftsführer
>>     Web: http://www.ilscipio.com
>> Tel: [phone]
>> Mobil: ([phone]
>> Fax: [phone]
>> eMail: [hidden email]
>>
>>   ilscipio GmbH
>> Am Drosselschlag 7
>> D-35452 Heuchelheim
>> Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Question-Free-available-skeleton-of-simple-shop-and-portal-solution-based-on-OFBiz-tp4637176p4637499.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

[Mark Schneider]

Hello Ruth

Am 13.11.2012 14:40, schrieb Ruth Hoffman:
> To be more specific, the entire site, including blog, free content and
> "library" download webpp is run using OFBiz. The ecommerce shopping
> webapp is located at:
> http://www.myofbiz.com/ecommerce
Thank you very much for the link. Your solutions are very impressive. I
like the design .. eg.:
https://www.myofbiz.com/mylibrary/control/main
https://www.myofbiz.com/control/faqs


Can somebody point out exsiting sources of different OFBiz applications.
please? They are a lot of nice looking OFBiz based solutions but
*without* the possibility to download their sources :(

I have searched already a lot on internet (including OFBiz website)
however I have found only few solutions with sources (BigFish, uPortal).

Due to short time resources I don't want "to reinvent the wheel" myself.

Thank you in advance for any hints.

regards, Mark

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[Paul Piper]

Hi Mark,

what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are probably going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a few are free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz that way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my needs. So I would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off, however, I would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to discuss this further.

With regards to books: I am referring to both

http://www.packtpub.com/apache-ofbiz-development-beginners-tutorial/book

and

https://www.packtpub.com/apache-of-biz-cookbook-effective-recipes-for-of-biz/book

Both I can recommend, though they target different audiences each. Ruths advice on myofbiz.org is also really good - she has a lot of sources there, too.

Cheers,
Paul

[Mark Schneider]

Thanks a lot for all hints Paul.

Am 14.11.2012 18:15, schrieb madppiper:
> what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the
> problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are probably
> going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a few are
> free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available
> ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz that
> way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my needs. So I
> would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off, however, I
> would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to discuss
> this further.
I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all
steps are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the
syntax) and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide

@ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
this tutorial.

I will probably start again with BigFish or the included Demo shop
and/or uPortal and reduce the application code due to my requirements.

> With regards to books: I am referring to both
>
> http://www.packtpub.com/apache-ofbiz-development-beginners-tutorial/book
>
> and
>
> https://www.packtpub.com/apache-of-biz-cookbook-effective-recipes-for-of-biz/book
>
> Both I can recommend, though they target different audiences each.
Thank you. I have ordered both of them now (as eBooks).

> Ruths advice on myofbiz.org is also really good - she has a lot of sources there,too.
Unfortunately the sample chapter and TOC didn't tell me too much. I am
not too much interested in screenshots but just looking for well
documented sources of working open source OFBiz applications.

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> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
May I ask how have you achieved the "message in context" link? My
posting to the list didn't contain such.


regards, Mark

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[Deepak Agarwal-2]

Hello Mark,

We are walking on the same road you are. We are in the midst of formulating
such solution.

If you are interested in working in collaboration then ping me.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Mark Schneider
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> Thanks a lot for all hints Paul.
>
> Am 14.11.2012 18:15, schrieb madppiper:
>
>  what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the
>> problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are probably
>> going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a few
>> are
>> free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available
>> ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz
>> that
>> way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my needs. So I
>> would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off, however, I
>> would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to
>> discuss
>> this further.
>>
> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all steps
> are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the syntax)
> and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OFBIZ/**
> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+**Development+Guide<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide>
>
> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
> this tutorial.
>
> I will probably start again with BigFish or the included Demo shop and/or
> uPortal and reduce the application code due to my requirements.
>
>
>  With regards to books: I am referring to both
>>
>> http://www.packtpub.com/**apache-ofbiz-development-**
>> beginners-tutorial/book<http://www.packtpub.com/apache-ofbiz-development-beginners-tutorial/book>
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://www.packtpub.com/**apache-of-biz-cookbook-**
>> effective-recipes-for-of-biz/**book<https://www.packtpub.com/apache-of-biz-cookbook-effective-recipes-for-of-biz/book>
>>
>> Both I can recommend, though they target different audiences each.
>>
> Thank you. I have ordered both of them now (as eBooks).
>
>
>  Ruths advice on myofbiz.org is also really good - she has a lot of
>> sources there,too.
>>
> Unfortunately the sample chapter and TOC didn't tell me too much. I am not
> too much interested in screenshots but just looking for well documented
> sources of working open source OFBiz applications.
>
>
>  --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.**
>> com/Question-Free-available-**skeleton-of-simple-shop-and-**
>> portal-solution-based-on-**OFBiz-tp4637176p4637600.html<http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Question-Free-available-skeleton-of-simple-shop-and-portal-solution-based-on-OFBiz-tp4637176p4637600.html>
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
> May I ask how have you achieved the "message in context" link? My posting
> to the list didn't contain such.
>
>
>
> regards, Mark
>
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[Mark Schneider]

Hello Deepak,

Thank you for your message.

Am 15.11.2012 18:27, schrieb Deepak Agarwal:
> We are walking on the same road you are. We are in the midst of formulating
> such solution.
>
> If you are interested in working in collaboration then ping me.
Yes. I am interested in common open source development (I don't want to
"to reinvent the wheel" myself).
I have found already some good looking OFBiz solutions but most of they
seem to be closed source.

How would you like to proceed?

> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Mark Schneider
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot for all hints Paul.
>>
>> Am 14.11.2012 18:15, schrieb madppiper:
>>
>>   what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the
>>> problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are probably
>>> going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a few
>>> are
>>> free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available
>>> ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz
>>> that
>>> way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my needs. So I
>>> would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off, however, I
>>> would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to
>>> discuss
>>> this further.
>>>
>> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all steps
>> are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the syntax)
>> and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OFBIZ/**
>> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+**Development+Guide<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide>
>>
>> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
>> this tutorial.
>>
>> I will probably start again with BigFish or the included Demo shop and/or
>> uPortal and reduce the application code due to my requirements.

regarde, Mark

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[Nick Rosser]

Saw the mention to BigFish -- not only would this platform be perfect
for a simple store, but would allow anyone to grow into a more
sophisticated store. I'd be interested in why anyone would think that
this is a good starting point but reducing it down to suit specific
needs. Should be good to go as is -- and you'll get the benefits of
additional features as they are released.

Best Regards,

Nick Rosser
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On 11/15/2012 12:27 PM, Deepak Agarwal wrote:

> Hello Mark,
>
> We are walking on the same road you are. We are in the midst of formulating
> such solution.
>
> If you are interested in working in collaboration then ping me.
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Mark Schneider
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot for all hints Paul.
>>
>> Am 14.11.2012 18:15, schrieb madppiper:
>>
>>   what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the
>>> problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are probably
>>> going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a few
>>> are
>>> free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available
>>> ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz
>>> that
>>> way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my needs. So I
>>> would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off, however, I
>>> would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to
>>> discuss
>>> this further.
>>>
>> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all steps
>> are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the syntax)
>> and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OFBIZ/**
>> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+**Development+Guide<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide>
>>
>> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
>> this tutorial.
>>
>> I will probably start again with BigFish or the included Demo shop and/or
>> uPortal and reduce the application code due to my requirements.
>>
>>
>>   With regards to books: I am referring to both
>>> http://www.packtpub.com/**apache-ofbiz-development-**
>>> beginners-tutorial/book<http://www.packtpub.com/apache-ofbiz-development-beginners-tutorial/book>
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> https://www.packtpub.com/**apache-of-biz-cookbook-**
>>> effective-recipes-for-of-biz/**book<https://www.packtpub.com/apache-of-biz-cookbook-effective-recipes-for-of-biz/book>
>>>
>>> Both I can recommend, though they target different audiences each.
>>>
>> Thank you. I have ordered both of them now (as eBooks).
>>
>>
>>   Ruths advice on myofbiz.org is also really good - she has a lot of
>>> sources there,too.
>>>
>> Unfortunately the sample chapter and TOC didn't tell me too much. I am not
>> too much interested in screenshots but just looking for well documented
>> sources of working open source OFBiz applications.
>>
>>
>>   --
>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.**
>>> com/Question-Free-available-**skeleton-of-simple-shop-and-**
>>> portal-solution-based-on-**OFBiz-tp4637176p4637600.html<http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Question-Free-available-skeleton-of-simple-shop-and-portal-solution-based-on-OFBiz-tp4637176p4637600.html>
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>> May I ask how have you achieved the "message in context" link? My posting
>> to the list didn't contain such.
>>
>>
>>
>> regards, Mark
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Mark Schneider wrote:
> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all
> steps are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the
> syntax) and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide
>
> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
> this tutorial.

Ho, it was nothing compared to Pranay's effort!

Jacques

[Mark Schneider]

Hello Nick.

Thank you for your hints.

Am 15.11.2012 20:10, schrieb Nick Rosser:
> Saw the mention to BigFish -- not only would this platform be perfect
> for a simple store, but would allow anyone to grow into a more
> sophisticated store. I'd be interested in why anyone would think that
> this is a good starting point but reducing it down to suit specific
> needs. Should be good to go as is -- and you'll get the benefits of
> additional features as they are released.
BigFish is a more completed shop application than the Demo shop included
in OFBiz (my private impression) even many things don't work.
Furthermore it is the only one (I was able to find) available as open
source.

I have found many really great looking OFBiz based shops and portal
applications but their sources are not available yet.

regards, Mark

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[Mark Schneider]

Am 15.11.2012 20:12, schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> Mark Schneider wrote:
>> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all
>> steps are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the
>> syntax) and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide
>>
>> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
>> this tutorial.
> Ho, it was nothing compared to Pranay's effort!
Yes. It is a big effort to write such tutorial and keep it up to date.

I will follow this tutorial again next week with the newest
apache-ofbiz-10.04.04. Are you comfortable with it when I add some
further details to this tutorial? (eg. there are more places where it is
not quite clear what file or path names should be used etc)

As far as i can remember I had to modify sometimes the content of
control files (compare to their content included in the tutorial) to get
the examples working.

"*ant create-component*" helps a lot at the beginning.

regards, Mark

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[Nick Rosser]

Mark,

BigFish source is free to download.
http://http://bigfish.salmonllc.com/bfDownload.html

Let me know if you need anything else -- or the very latest version --
the one posted is a couple of months old now and we've added lots of new
features (we'll be officially releasing within the next 1-3 weeks).

Best Regards,

Nick Rosser
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On 11/15/2012 2:28 PM, Mark Schneider wrote:

> Hello Nick.
>
> Thank you for your hints.
>
> Am 15.11.2012 20:10, schrieb Nick Rosser:
>> Saw the mention to BigFish -- not only would this platform be perfect
>> for a simple store, but would allow anyone to grow into a more
>> sophisticated store. I'd be interested in why anyone would think that
>> this is a good starting point but reducing it down to suit specific
>> needs. Should be good to go as is -- and you'll get the benefits of
>> additional features as they are released.
> BigFish is a more completed shop application than the Demo shop
> included in OFBiz (my private impression) even many things don't work.
> Furthermore it is the only one (I was able to find) available as open
> source.
>
> I have found many really great looking OFBiz based shops and portal
> applications but their sources are not available yet.
>
> regards, Mark
>

[Mark Schneider]

Thank you very much Nick,

Am 15.11.2012 20:48, schrieb Nick Rosser:
> BigFish source is free to download.
> http://http://bigfish.salmonllc.com/bfDownload.html
I have already played a bit with it. A very good work!

> Let me know if you need anything else -- or the very latest version --
> the one posted is a couple of months old now and we've added lots of
> new features (we'll be officially releasing within the next 1-3 weeks).
If you like I would prefer to test the most current version of BigFish
with the newest apache-ofbiz-10.04.04 of course.

Any kind of open source OFBiz application is very helpful for learning
(like portal, FAQ, blog, news etc solutions).

Best regards, Mark

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[hans_bakker]

You might want to have a look at our Growerp.com development which will
contain the most simplest website based on the content manager with a
shop option which will be the most simple e-commerce implementation. We
expect a first version in the next 3-4 weeks.

As a bonus you will have  the most simple back-end also available.

Most simple means here that basic ERP functionality is present and can
be used by companies under 5 employees.

The system is fully open source and could use some more contributors.

all info at http://growerp.com

Regards,
Hans


n 11/16/2012 12:39 AM, Mark Schneider wrote:

> Hello Deepak,
>
> Thank you for your message.
>
> Am 15.11.2012 18:27, schrieb Deepak Agarwal:
>> We are walking on the same road you are. We are in the midst of
>> formulating
>> such solution.
>>
>> If you are interested in working in collaboration then ping me.
> Yes. I am interested in common open source development (I don't want
> to "to reinvent the wheel" myself).
> I have found already some good looking OFBiz solutions but most of
> they seem to be closed source.
>
> How would you like to proceed?
>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Mark Schneider
>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot for all hints Paul.
>>>
>>> Am 14.11.2012 18:15, schrieb madppiper:
>>>
>>>   what in particular are you "looking for? As mentioned previously, the
>>>> problem if you just want to create a simple store is that you are
>>>> probably
>>>> going to have to rely on a third party application (of which only a
>>>> few
>>>> are
>>>> free) or going to invest your time into reducing the already available
>>>> ecommerce application to what is needed. I myself began learning ofbiz
>>>> that
>>>> way, btw, by using eCommerce as a basis and reducing it to my
>>>> needs. So I
>>>> would say its not a bad start. If you just want to hit it off,
>>>> however, I
>>>> would propose to contact one of the agencies (mine or otherwise) to
>>>> discuss
>>>> this further.
>>>>
>>> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all
>>> steps
>>> are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the
>>> syntax)
>>> and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OFBIZ/**
>>> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+**Development+Guide<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide>
>>>
>>>
>>> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
>>> this tutorial.
>>>
>>> I will probably start again with BigFish or the included Demo shop
>>> and/or
>>> uPortal and reduce the application code due to my requirements.
>
> regarde, Mark
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Mark Schneider" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:48 PM
Subject: Updating of tutotial / Re: Question: Free available skeleton of simple shop and portal solution based on OFBiz

> Am 15.11.2012 20:12, schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>> Mark Schneider wrote:
>>> I was first following the OFBiz Tutoria (link below) however not all
>>> steps are clear for me (eg. some missing file and path names or just the
>>> syntax) and some parts didn't work on apache-ofbiz-10.04.03.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide
>>>
>>> @ Jacques Le Roux: thanks a lot for including of further details inside
>>> this tutorial.
>> Ho, it was nothing compared to Pranay's effort!
> Yes. It is a big effort to write such tutorial and keep it up to date.
>
> I will follow this tutorial again next week with the newest
> apache-ofbiz-10.04.04. Are you comfortable with it when I add some
> further details to this tutorial? (eg. there are more places where it is
> not quite clear what file or path names should be used etc)

Sure, amendments are welcome
 
> As far as i can remember I had to modify sometimes the content of
> control files (compare to their content included in the tutorial) to get
> the examples working.
>
> "*ant create-component*" helps a lot at the beginning.

If you already understood that, you are on the good way

Jacques


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