R: Re: <fail-message>
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Yes, Jacques I'm still working to remove "fail-message" tag from applications
and specialpurpose components. If you want to help me to remove it from framework components I will appreciate it. Thanks Marco >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: [hidden email] >Data: 22/12/2010 11.43 >A: <[hidden email]> >Ogg: Re: <fail-message> > >Thanks to Marco's courageous effort, I can remove soon this from my todo list. > >BTW, Marco I can help on the framework part, if you have nothing pending there yet... > >Thanks! > >Jacques > >From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>> >>> Are we feeling a little domineering today? >> >> No actually I'm not domineering, simply exhausted. These 500+ changes >> cool, and I will... >> >>> Just because internationalizing code is a best practice doesn't mean it's the ONLY practice, and I don't think we want to force >>> it for any and all users of OFBiz (ie those writing their own applications, etc). >>> That's the thing with best practices: we want them and we want to recommend them and for the main code base even ask people to >>> follow them. We also want primary and secondary/other best practices. Still, not being omniscient we don't want to think we >>> know >>> everything and not have any flexibility in the framework. >> >> Yes I was re-thinking about it, and it occured to me that of course we should keep it and simply discourage its usage in OFBiz >> stock >> (yes, you contributors, commiters, ... :o) >> >> Jacques >> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I think we should deprecate, and at term remove the <fail-message> tag. >>>> localisable. So for me it's a bad practice, and we should prevent people to use this tag anymore. >>>> I can't see from the top of my head if there are some other aspects in OFBiz which encourage such bad practices (not >>>> localisable). >>>> >>>> What do you think ? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>> >> > > > |
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OK, count me in
Jacques From: <[hidden email]> > Yes, Jacques I'm still working to remove "fail-message" tag from applications > and specialpurpose components. > If you want to help me to remove it from framework components I will > appreciate it. > > Thanks > Marco > >>----Messaggio originale---- >>Da: [hidden email] >>Data: 22/12/2010 11.43 >>A: <[hidden email]> >>Ogg: Re: <fail-message> >> >>Thanks to Marco's courageous effort, I can remove soon this from my todo > list. >> >>BTW, Marco I can help on the framework part, if you have nothing pending > there yet... >> >>Thanks! >> >>Jacques >> >>From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> Are we feeling a little domineering today? >>> >>> No actually I'm not domineering, simply exhausted. These 500+ changes > certainly discouraged me, hence my reaction. I should keep >>> cool, and I will... >>> >>>> Just because internationalizing code is a best practice doesn't mean it's > the ONLY practice, and I don't think we want to force >>>> it for any and all users of OFBiz (ie those writing their own > applications, etc). >>>> That's the thing with best practices: we want them and we want to > recommend them and for the main code base even ask people to >>>> follow them. We also want primary and secondary/other best practices. > Still, not being omniscient we don't want to think we >>>> know >>>> everything and not have any flexibility in the framework. >>> >>> Yes I was re-thinking about it, and it occured to me that of course we > should keep it and simply discourage its usage in OFBiz >>> stock >>> (yes, you contributors, commiters, ... :o) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I think we should deprecate, and at term remove the <fail-message> tag. > There are 500+ ot them in current code. They are not >>>>> localisable. So for me it's a bad practice, and we should prevent people > to use this tag anymore. >>>>> I can't see from the top of my head if there are some other aspects in > OFBiz which encourage such bad practices (not >>>>> localisable). >>>>> >>>>> What do you think ? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > |
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Hi Jacques,
I saw that there are a few fail-message tag in use into the framework components so I have removed by myself. I have also closed jira issue OFBIZ-1874. Thank a lot for you availability. Marco Il giorno 22/dic/2010, alle ore 14.06, Jacques Le Roux ha scritto: > OK, count me in > > Jacques > > From: <[hidden email]> >> Yes, Jacques I'm still working to remove "fail-message" tag from applications and specialpurpose components. >> If you want to help me to remove it from framework components I will appreciate it. >> Thanks >> Marco >>> ----Messaggio originale---- >>> Da: [hidden email] >>> Data: 22/12/2010 11.43 >>> A: <[hidden email]> >>> Ogg: Re: <fail-message> >>> >>> Thanks to Marco's courageous effort, I can remove soon this from my todo >> list. >>> >>> BTW, Marco I can help on the framework part, if you have nothing pending >> there yet... >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> Are we feeling a little domineering today? >>>> >>>> No actually I'm not domineering, simply exhausted. These 500+ changes >> certainly discouraged me, hence my reaction. I should keep >>>> cool, and I will... >>>> >>>>> Just because internationalizing code is a best practice doesn't mean it's >> the ONLY practice, and I don't think we want to force >>>>> it for any and all users of OFBiz (ie those writing their own >> applications, etc). >>>>> That's the thing with best practices: we want them and we want to >> recommend them and for the main code base even ask people to >>>>> follow them. We also want primary and secondary/other best practices. >> Still, not being omniscient we don't want to think we >>>>> know >>>>> everything and not have any flexibility in the framework. >>>> >>>> Yes I was re-thinking about it, and it occured to me that of course we >> should keep it and simply discourage its usage in OFBiz >>>> stock >>>> (yes, you contributors, commiters, ... :o) >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we should deprecate, and at term remove the <fail-message> tag. >> There are 500+ ot them in current code. They are not >>>>>> localisable. So for me it's a bad practice, and we should prevent people >> to use this tag anymore. >>>>>> I can't see from the top of my head if there are some other aspects in >> OFBiz which encourage such bad practices (not >>>>>> localisable). >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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Thanks Marco,
You beat me on it Jacques From: "Marco Risaliti" <[hidden email]> Hi Jacques, I saw that there are a few fail-message tag in use into the framework components so I have removed by myself. I have also closed jira issue OFBIZ-1874. Thank a lot for you availability. Marco Il giorno 22/dic/2010, alle ore 14.06, Jacques Le Roux ha scritto: > OK, count me in > > Jacques > > From: <[hidden email]> >> Yes, Jacques I'm still working to remove "fail-message" tag from applications and specialpurpose components. >> If you want to help me to remove it from framework components I will appreciate it. >> Thanks >> Marco >>> ----Messaggio originale---- >>> Da: [hidden email] >>> Data: 22/12/2010 11.43 >>> A: <[hidden email]> >>> Ogg: Re: <fail-message> >>> >>> Thanks to Marco's courageous effort, I can remove soon this from my todo >> list. >>> >>> BTW, Marco I can help on the framework part, if you have nothing pending >> there yet... >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> Are we feeling a little domineering today? >>>> >>>> No actually I'm not domineering, simply exhausted. These 500+ changes >> certainly discouraged me, hence my reaction. I should keep >>>> cool, and I will... >>>> >>>>> Just because internationalizing code is a best practice doesn't mean it's >> the ONLY practice, and I don't think we want to force >>>>> it for any and all users of OFBiz (ie those writing their own >> applications, etc). >>>>> That's the thing with best practices: we want them and we want to >> recommend them and for the main code base even ask people to >>>>> follow them. We also want primary and secondary/other best practices. >> Still, not being omniscient we don't want to think we >>>>> know >>>>> everything and not have any flexibility in the framework. >>>> >>>> Yes I was re-thinking about it, and it occured to me that of course we >> should keep it and simply discourage its usage in OFBiz >>>> stock >>>> (yes, you contributors, commiters, ... :o) >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we should deprecate, and at term remove the <fail-message> tag. >> There are 500+ ot them in current code. They are not >>>>>> localisable. So for me it's a bad practice, and we should prevent people >> to use this tag anymore. >>>>>> I can't see from the top of my head if there are some other aspects in >> OFBiz which encourage such bad practices (not >>>>>> localisable). >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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Marco,
Thank you very much for working on this! -Adrian On 12/22/2010 12:00 PM, Marco Risaliti wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > I saw that there are a few fail-message tag in use into the framework components so I have removed by myself. > I have also closed jira issue OFBIZ-1874. > > Thank a lot for you availability. > Marco > > Il giorno 22/dic/2010, alle ore 14.06, Jacques Le Roux ha scritto: > >> OK, count me in >> >> Jacques >> >> From:<[hidden email]> >>> Yes, Jacques I'm still working to remove "fail-message" tag from applications and specialpurpose components. >>> If you want to help me to remove it from framework components I will appreciate it. >>> Thanks >>> Marco >>>> ----Messaggio originale---- >>>> Da: [hidden email] >>>> Data: 22/12/2010 11.43 >>>> A:<[hidden email]> >>>> Ogg: Re:<fail-message> >>>> >>>> Thanks to Marco's courageous effort, I can remove soon this from my todo >>> list. >>>> >>>> BTW, Marco I can help on the framework part, if you have nothing pending >>> there yet... >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux"<[hidden email]> >>>>> From: "David E Jones"<[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Are we feeling a little domineering today? >>>>> >>>>> No actually I'm not domineering, simply exhausted. These 500+ changes >>> certainly discouraged me, hence my reaction. I should keep >>>>> cool, and I will... >>>>> >>>>>> Just because internationalizing code is a best practice doesn't mean it's >>> the ONLY practice, and I don't think we want to force >>>>>> it for any and all users of OFBiz (ie those writing their own >>> applications, etc). >>>>>> That's the thing with best practices: we want them and we want to >>> recommend them and for the main code base even ask people to >>>>>> follow them. We also want primary and secondary/other best practices. >>> Still, not being omniscient we don't want to think we >>>>>> know >>>>>> everything and not have any flexibility in the framework. >>>>> >>>>> Yes I was re-thinking about it, and it occured to me that of course we >>> should keep it and simply discourage its usage in OFBiz >>>>> stock >>>>> (yes, you contributors, commiters, ... :o) >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we should deprecate, and at term remove the<fail-message> tag. >>> There are 500+ ot them in current code. They are not >>>>>>> localisable. So for me it's a bad practice, and we should prevent people >>> to use this tag anymore. >>>>>>> I can't see from the top of my head if there are some other aspects in >>> OFBiz which encourage such bad practices (not >>>>>>> localisable). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > |
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