Re: Paypal IPN and no shipping

[BJ Freeman]

will check the return, but cause it is important to get the validated
address from paypal to be covered by their insurance for delivery.

that was my main concern.

Scott Gray sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:33 PM:

> It has nothing to do with electronic, download, or free shipping.  The flag simply means that no address is being passed to PayPal, OFBiz will use whatever shipping addresses were selected during checkout.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> 801.657.2909
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:23:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected
> Subject: Paypal IPN and no shipping
>
> paypalevents.java line 192
>         parameters.put("no_shipping", "1");    // no shipping address
> required (local shipping used)
> this is for electronic, download, or free shipping.
> I don't think it should be hard coded.
>
> however for normal shipping there should be a ability to specify you
> want the shipping address from paypal that is verified.
> this should be something configurable through the product store.
>

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[BJ Freeman]

Scott:
this is what I am working to change
2009-06-17 08:22:42,773 (TP-Processor2) [ PayPalEvents.java:301:INFO ]
### Param: protection_eligibility => Ineligible
This means that if I ship and the customer claims it did not arrive that
paypal will not cover the cost of the sale.

to accomplish this must retrieve their address the customer provides
that is verified by paypal.
then add messages to the order if it comes back as above with a check
mark to allow the customer to approve the order with no insurance and
they will not charge back if they don't get the package.

So I will be adding to the paypal events and adding some flags in the
config file about these, soon.


BJ Freeman sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:39 PM:

> will check the return, but cause it is important to get the validated
> address from paypal to be covered by their insurance for delivery.
>
> that was my main concern.
>
> Scott Gray sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:33 PM:
>> It has nothing to do with electronic, download, or free shipping.  The flag simply means that no address is being passed to PayPal, OFBiz will use whatever shipping addresses were selected during checkout.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 801.657.2909
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:23:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected
>> Subject: Paypal IPN and no shipping
>>
>> paypalevents.java line 192
>>         parameters.put("no_shipping", "1");    // no shipping address
>> required (local shipping used)
>> this is for electronic, download, or free shipping.
>> I don't think it should be hard coded.
>>
>> however for normal shipping there should be a ability to specify you
>> want the shipping address from paypal that is verified.
>> this should be something configurable through the product store.
>>
>

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Systems Integrator.

[Scott Gray-2]

Thanks for the info BJ, I'll look forward to your patch.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/06/2009, at 1:41 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Scott:
> this is what I am working to change
> 2009-06-17 08:22:42,773 (TP-Processor2) [ PayPalEvents.java:301:INFO ]
> ### Param: protection_eligibility => Ineligible
> This means that if I ship and the customer claims it did not arrive  
> that
> paypal will not cover the cost of the sale.
>
> to accomplish this must retrieve their address the customer provides
> that is verified by paypal.
> then add messages to the order if it comes back as above with a check
> mark to allow the customer to approve the order with no insurance and
> they will not charge back if they don't get the package.
>
> So I will be adding to the paypal events and adding some flags in the
> config file about these, soon.
>
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:39 PM:
>> will check the return, but cause it is important to get the validated
>> address from paypal to be covered by their insurance for delivery.
>>
>> that was my main concern.
>>
>> Scott Gray sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:33 PM:
>>> It has nothing to do with electronic, download, or free shipping.  
>>> The flag simply means that no address is being passed to PayPal,  
>>> OFBiz will use whatever shipping addresses were selected during  
>>> checkout.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>> 801.657.2909
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:23:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected
>>> Subject: Paypal IPN and no shipping
>>>
>>> paypalevents.java line 192
>>>        parameters.put("no_shipping", "1");    // no shipping address
>>> required (local shipping used)
>>> this is for electronic, download, or free shipping.
>>> I don't think it should be hard coded.
>>>
>>> however for normal shipping there should be a ability to specify you
>>> want the shipping address from paypal that is verified.
>>> this should be something configurable through the product store.
>>>
>>
>
> --
> BJ Freeman
> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> Systems Integrator.
>

[BJ Freeman]

Ok got it to return the confirmed address from paypal.
so what I figured to do was
1) created a contact mech of purpose PayPalConfiredaddress.
2) return back to the paypal address page that explains their address
dos not match the one pal pay has on file and allow them to select the
paypal address.
3) if they don't then have them type in initials that says they waive
all rights for charge back and accept all resposiblty for delivery.
4) if they do accept the new address then note that the address is a
verified address by Paypal.
5) store the verify_sign =>
AD1C3HDvLRYutA8xp6c1tJUQWMhAAssQ92bB0EaKS8KqIuPzfVram0KF
6) store the address_status => confirmed
for now #5 and #6 are put in Notes for the order.

also not that this is just a pending_reason => unilateral
flag that the email address (our business address) is not confirmired
with seller paypal account.

also the payment payment_status => Pending
which means have to complete this within 30 days.

so will probably need a night process to check if the payment has been
completed and send reminders.

but not this go around.


Scott Gray sent the following on 6/17/2009 3:09 PM:

> Thanks for the info BJ, I'll look forward to your patch.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 18/06/2009, at 1:41 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> Scott:
>> this is what I am working to change
>> 2009-06-17 08:22:42,773 (TP-Processor2) [ PayPalEvents.java:301:INFO ]
>> ### Param: protection_eligibility => Ineligible
>> This means that if I ship and the customer claims it did not arrive that
>> paypal will not cover the cost of the sale.
>>
>> to accomplish this must retrieve their address the customer provides
>> that is verified by paypal.
>> then add messages to the order if it comes back as above with a check
>> mark to allow the customer to approve the order with no insurance and
>> they will not charge back if they don't get the package.
>>
>> So I will be adding to the paypal events and adding some flags in the
>> config file about these, soon.
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:39 PM:
>>> will check the return, but cause it is important to get the validated
>>> address from paypal to be covered by their insurance for delivery.
>>>
>>> that was my main concern.
>>>
>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 6/14/2009 8:33 PM:
>>>> It has nothing to do with electronic, download, or free shipping.
>>>> The flag simply means that no address is being passed to PayPal,
>>>> OFBiz will use whatever shipping addresses were selected during
>>>> checkout.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>> 801.657.2909
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:23:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected
>>>> Subject: Paypal IPN and no shipping
>>>>
>>>> paypalevents.java line 192
>>>>        parameters.put("no_shipping", "1");    // no shipping address
>>>> required (local shipping used)
>>>> this is for electronic, download, or free shipping.
>>>> I don't think it should be hard coded.
>>>>
>>>> however for normal shipping there should be a ability to specify you
>>>> want the shipping address from paypal that is verified.
>>>> this should be something configurable through the product store.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>
>> Systems Integrator.
>>
>

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Systems Integrator.