Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
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Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
 
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Dear anil,
It takes 2 months to get approval for software or training even for small amount. Training is so standard that you have got it 15 years back when you first saw linuz. 10 days for permission to downlaod in large organization :( It is still better than US telecom company. Smart Rules : Not a penny could be spent on project till Project Pin is generated. It is there where the project needs help before dying - preborth death. Project abortion is well spread across all continents. Please be request to know what made you think it was "attempt to pollute environment ". I heard it earlier too. US telecom gave me Million dollar stock , 100 K + salary but made sign papers for every single thing. Half day goes in that. I started spending 10K from personal money per year on parties to keep warring factor in company happy. All I wanted was to get my idea accepted . People called it " attempt to pollute environment ". Most in my company feels I am "attempt to pollute environment " by bringing Open Source. Getting 5 days standard training for linux was dumb for me. 50 guys wasting 5 days. 50*5 = 250 days . Equal to 1 calendar working man year. Instead I asked small guy to teach to code; I fell less fool than asking on net. If I code ; rest will .... Even without training. Nice miz : Ofbiz + Geronimo 2.0 + Linux . IOC and JNDI are not mizing nicely :(. I have some idea which need to get implemented. Be rest assured I will get help. I may not want to miss this opportunity to congratulate you because you sound stronger than 200 Billion company executive.... I like attitute. :) Great Job Chand ----- Original Message ----- From: Anil Patel To: Chandresh Turakhia Cc: Ashish Vijaywargiya ; [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal Chandresh, I appreciate your interest in doing business with us and it will definitely help our company's bottom line. In interest of long term goals of our company, its important for us to concentrate in on what we do best, i.e. Software development on top of Ofbiz. In 5 years of history of our company we have never accepted any project that was not build on top of Ofbiz framework. We are focused. I request you to respect our decision and not attempt to pollute environment of our company. We do not provide training for Non Aditi Tech Labs employees. We don't have any such service that provide for any kind of Support for Software development team. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel FYI: Hotwaxmedia does provide service that will help you in getting started with Ofbiz development. On 1/18/07, Chandresh Turakhia <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Ashish , You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It is honest request. Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to develop patches for ofbiz etc. I am open to come to Indore to learn. Alternatively nice if you give me what I need for training. Pramagati is asking to give trainig but I would request you to guide me as to what to ask for as "training requirements" Chand ----- Original Message ----- From: Ashish Vijaywargiya To: Chandresh Turakhia ; Anil Patel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD's Hi Chand, Yesterday , I have sent you 2 Live CD of Ofbiz+Ubuntu.Probably you will get it today. You only need to place a disk on the CD-Drive and please make sure that the CD-Drive is the first Bootable device. It will be much better if machine configuration is not older then 1 year.(May be Ubuntu don't support driver for the older PC) FYI , The Live CD will load within 8 or 10 minutes. Let me know whenever you get the CD's. Thanks. -- Regards Ashish Vijaywargiya Aditisoft Technology Laboratory ----- Original Message ----- From: sandeep.nag To: Chand. Turakhia Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: FW: Trainer, contents & proposal Dear Sir, Please find attached details for Linux for your perusal. Regards Marina |
RE: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
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attempt to pollute environment = variation of "not invented here"
syndrome -----Original Message----- From: Chandresh Turakhia [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:47 AM To: Anil Patel Cc: [hidden email]; Chandresh Turakhia Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal Dear anil, It takes 2 months to get approval for software or training even for small amount. Training is so standard that you have got it 15 years back when you first saw linuz. 10 days for permission to downlaod in large organization :( It is still better than US telecom company. Smart Rules : Not a penny could be spent on project till Project Pin is generated. It is there where the project needs help before dying - preborth death. Project abortion is well spread across all continents. Please be request to know what made you think it was "attempt to pollute environment ". I heard it earlier too. US telecom gave me Million dollar stock , 100 K + salary but made sign papers for every single thing. Half day goes in that. I started spending 10K from personal money per year on parties to keep warring factor in company happy. All I wanted was to get my idea accepted . People called it " attempt to pollute environment ". Most in my company feels I am "attempt to pollute environment " by bringing Open Source. Getting 5 days standard training for linux was dumb for me. 50 guys wasting 5 days. 50*5 = 250 days . Equal to 1 calendar working man year. Instead I asked small guy to teach to code; I fell less fool than asking on net. If I code ; rest will .... Even without training. Nice miz : Ofbiz + Geronimo 2.0 + Linux . IOC and JNDI are not mizing nicely :(. I have some idea which need to get implemented. Be rest assured I will get help. I may not want to miss this opportunity to congratulate you because you sound stronger than 200 Billion company executive.... I like attitute. :) Great Job Chand ----- Original Message ----- From: Anil Patel To: Chandresh Turakhia Cc: Ashish Vijaywargiya ; [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal Chandresh, I appreciate your interest in doing business with us and it will definitely help our company's bottom line. In interest of long term goals of our company, its important for us to concentrate in on what we do best, i.e. Software development on top of Ofbiz. In 5 years of history of our company we have never accepted any project that was not build on top of Ofbiz framework. We are focused. I request you to respect our decision and not attempt to pollute environment of our company. We do not provide training for Non Aditi Tech Labs employees. We don't have any such service that provide for any kind of Support for Software development team. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel FYI: Hotwaxmedia does provide service that will help you in getting started with Ofbiz development. On 1/18/07, Chandresh Turakhia <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Ashish , You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It is honest request. Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to develop patches for ofbiz etc. I am open to come to Indore to learn. Alternatively nice if you give me what I need for training. Pramagati is asking to give trainig but I would request you to guide me as to what to ask for as "training requirements" Chand ----- Original Message ----- From: Ashish Vijaywargiya To: Chandresh Turakhia ; Anil Patel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD's Hi Chand, Yesterday , I have sent you 2 Live CD of Ofbiz+Ubuntu.Probably you will get it today. You only need to place a disk on the CD-Drive and please make sure that the CD-Drive is the first Bootable device. It will be much better if machine configuration is not older then 1 year.(May be Ubuntu don't support driver for the older PC) FYI , The Live CD will load within 8 or 10 minutes. Let me know whenever you get the CD's. Thanks. -- Regards Ashish Vijaywargiya Aditisoft Technology Laboratory ----- Original Message ----- From: sandeep.nag To: Chand. Turakhia Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: FW: Trainer, contents & proposal Dear Sir, Please find attached details for Linux for your perusal. Regards Marina NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.za/default.aspx?pid=34411 |
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In reply to this post by Chandresh Turakhia
Hi Chandresh,
> > You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It is honest request. > > Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to develop patches for ofbiz etc. > If you just need to learn setting up the development environment on your Linux box, setting up Vendor branches for your subversion repositories, I can step up and help you out. I am not a Ofbiz veteran and won't be of much help in development of Ofbiz components as I am still learning. Being a Java developer for 11 years, I can certainly help you other things you mentioned. Thanks, Raj |
Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
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In reply to this post by Gerrie Myburg [ MTN - Innovation Centre ]
On Friday 19 January 2007 04:06, Gerrie Myburg [ MTN - Innovation Centre ]
wrote: > attempt to pollute environment = variation of "not invented here" > syndrome True enough but organizations must maintain a cohesive internal strategy. Without policy and strategy an organization has no structure and no ability to coordinate its actions. When you get messaging that smells like "don't pollute the environment" then you apparently don't have enough alignment around you to move the project forward. Embedding OFBiz in an organization at this early stage of the project will require a signficant amount of trust and enthusiasm from the other organizational stakeholders. They have to understand that OFBiz represents strategic competitive advantage and not a dilution of core competencies. Respecting the concerns and building the confidence of other people in the organization is critical to a successful implementation. Does that make sense? -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [hidden email] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com |
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