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I read the email "tragedy of the commons, email, and wikis" and this one also. I also know that , for spam reason, profiles are not updateable anymore. But I don't see a reason why the "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki" https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Home would be only open to some persons (I'm one of them) Did I miss something? Is that normal or a side effect? Note: I'm following the Confluence notifications and we handle (fortunately sparse) spam issues on our side Thanks Jacques On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:07 PM Joseph Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote: > Discussed funding a pair of contractors to attend a Cloudstack > conference to gain additional skills- approved by VP Infra. > > Acquired a free license for Jira Help Desk - rollout forthcoming. > > Installed wildcard SSL cert for *.openoffice.org. > > In pursuit of outsourced code-signing capability for project > releases. Negotiations have reached the NDA phase. > > Migrated the bulk of our SQL infra to a centralized database server. > > Discussed replenishing our Mac build infra. > > Purchased a wildcard cert for *.incubator.apache.org. 3 years > at $475 per year. > > Began holding informal weekly meetings via google hangouts. Open > to all infra-team members. > > Had a configuration regression regarding the PIG and DRILL Confluence > wikis, which allowed additional spam to reappear on those spaces. > > Apachecon.eu DNS reacquired from our registrar. Somehow it wasn’t > configured to autorenew so we lost that domain for a few days. > > We are still considerably behind the curve in our Jira workload and > that is starting to inform some of the reporting at the board level. > Please be patient while we continue to ramp up with existing personnel > to support the org’s continued growth. In response we have organized > a monthly jira walkthrough day dedicated entirely to outstanding > jira requests. Raw jira stats show we have made significant progress > over the past month and we expect that trend to continue, with 116 opened > vs. 166 closed. > > Aegis is reporting a bad disk and it needs to be replaced as the host > is seriously underperforming in its current state. > > Dell has solicited a warranty renewal offering for arcas, our jira server. > > We need to sort out licensing for our VMWare infra as we are currently in > a holding pattern for new VM’s until this gets resolved. > > We’ve disabled the user ability to edit their profile page in confluence, > eliminating another common source of spam. |
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It could be that the complaining users were not logged in, we are checking this point... We will let you know...
Jacques On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:43 AM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I read the email "tragedy of the commons, email, and wikis" and this one also. > I also know that , for spam reason, profiles are not updateable anymore. > > But I don't see a reason why the "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki" > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Home > would be only open to some persons (I'm one of them) > > Did I miss something? Is that normal or a side effect? > > Note: I'm following the Confluence notifications and we handle (fortunately sparse) spam issues on our side > > Thanks > > Jacques > > On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:07 PM Joseph Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Discussed funding a pair of contractors to attend a Cloudstack >> conference to gain additional skills- approved by VP Infra. >> >> Acquired a free license for Jira Help Desk - rollout forthcoming. >> >> Installed wildcard SSL cert for *.openoffice.org. >> >> In pursuit of outsourced code-signing capability for project >> releases. Negotiations have reached the NDA phase. >> >> Migrated the bulk of our SQL infra to a centralized database server. >> >> Discussed replenishing our Mac build infra. >> >> Purchased a wildcard cert for *.incubator.apache.org. 3 years >> at $475 per year. >> >> Began holding informal weekly meetings via google hangouts. Open >> to all infra-team members. >> >> Had a configuration regression regarding the PIG and DRILL Confluence >> wikis, which allowed additional spam to reappear on those spaces. >> >> Apachecon.eu DNS reacquired from our registrar. Somehow it wasn’t >> configured to autorenew so we lost that domain for a few days. >> >> We are still considerably behind the curve in our Jira workload and >> that is starting to inform some of the reporting at the board level. >> Please be patient while we continue to ramp up with existing personnel >> to support the org’s continued growth. In response we have organized >> a monthly jira walkthrough day dedicated entirely to outstanding >> jira requests. Raw jira stats show we have made significant progress >> over the past month and we expect that trend to continue, with 116 opened >> vs. 166 closed. >> >> Aegis is reporting a bad disk and it needs to be replaced as the host >> is seriously underperforming in its current state. >> >> Dell has solicited a warranty renewal offering for arcas, our jira server. >> >> We need to sort out licensing for our VMWare infra as we are currently in >> a holding pattern for new VM’s until this gets resolved. >> >> We’ve disabled the user ability to edit their profile page in confluence, >> eliminating another common source of spam. |
Hi Jacques,
I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but that is another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all user email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea of open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... Regards, Paul |
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Thanks Tony,
I see, so we need something like an ofbiz-contributors group (we have already ofbiz-admins and ofbiz-committers) and to add there users who want to edit the "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki", right? Are there no tools to help? Jacques On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:48 AM Tony Stevenson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Jacques, > > All wikis in confluence now require a user to be logged in and added to a group by an admin of that group so that they can edit > the wiki. This is a rather brutal, but alas necessary, step to prevent spam and abuse on our wikis. > > > On 26 Nov 2013, at 07:43, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I read the email "tragedy of the commons, email, and wikis" and this one also. >> I also know that , for spam reason, profiles are not updateable anymore. >> >> But I don't see a reason why the "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki" >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Home >> would be only open to some persons (I'm one of them) >> >> Did I miss something? Is that normal or a side effect? >> >> Note: I'm following the Confluence notifications and we handle (fortunately sparse) spam issues on our side >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:07 PM Joseph Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Discussed funding a pair of contractors to attend a Cloudstack >>> conference to gain additional skills- approved by VP Infra. >>> >>> Acquired a free license for Jira Help Desk - rollout forthcoming. >>> >>> Installed wildcard SSL cert for *.openoffice.org. >>> >>> In pursuit of outsourced code-signing capability for project >>> releases. Negotiations have reached the NDA phase. >>> >>> Migrated the bulk of our SQL infra to a centralized database server. >>> >>> Discussed replenishing our Mac build infra. >>> >>> Purchased a wildcard cert for *.incubator.apache.org. 3 years >>> at $475 per year. >>> >>> Began holding informal weekly meetings via google hangouts. Open >>> to all infra-team members. >>> >>> Had a configuration regression regarding the PIG and DRILL Confluence >>> wikis, which allowed additional spam to reappear on those spaces. >>> >>> Apachecon.eu DNS reacquired from our registrar. Somehow it wasn’t >>> configured to autorenew so we lost that domain for a few days. >>> >>> We are still considerably behind the curve in our Jira workload and >>> that is starting to inform some of the reporting at the board level. >>> Please be patient while we continue to ramp up with existing personnel >>> to support the org’s continued growth. In response we have organized >>> a monthly jira walkthrough day dedicated entirely to outstanding >>> jira requests. Raw jira stats show we have made significant progress >>> over the past month and we expect that trend to continue, with 116 opened >>> vs. 166 closed. >>> >>> Aegis is reporting a bad disk and it needs to be replaced as the host >>> is seriously underperforming in its current state. >>> >>> Dell has solicited a warranty renewal offering for arcas, our jira server. >>> >>> We need to sort out licensing for our VMWare infra as we are currently in >>> a holding pattern for new VM’s until this gets resolved. >>> >>> We’ve disabled the user ability to edit their profile page in confluence, >>> eliminating another common source of spam. > > > Cheers, > Tony > > ---------------------------------- > Tony Stevenson > > [hidden email] > [hidden email] > > http://www.pc-tony.com > > GPG - 1024D/51047D66 > ---------------------------------- |
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Hi Paul,
You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a contributor group and add users there) BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort between him and the infra team). Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered users of those MLs? Jacques On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but that is > another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for > mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all user > email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea of > open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors > adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having > access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... > > Regards, > Paul > > <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Business_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> |
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I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different email addresses to do so. Regards Ed On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> wrote: >Hi Paul, > >You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >contributor group and add users there) > >BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >between him and the infra team). > >Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >users of those MLs? > >Jacques > >On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Jacques, >> >> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>that is >> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>user >> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>of >> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >> >> Regards, >> Paul >> >> >><http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> > |
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On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:40 AM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Also I'd like to know if we have a mean to know the list of > all the registered users of those MLs? IIRW I already asked this question and had an anwser, but I can't remember clearly. I will look at it later, because anyway to add wiki users you have to use their wiki usernames and not their email addresses. So I have created an ofbiz-contributors group and added all committers for now. The rights allow only to add/edit/export pages, comments and attachments, not to remove them. Please Christian could you try it's ok for editing? Notes: * An ofbiz-contributor may also export the whole space (we may tweak rights later). * Anonymous users can only read. So it seems we will need to ask people their Confluence usernames to add them in this list. I will try to find a better automated way. Infra already answered there are no tools, I had a quick look and this seems quite uneasy so far. I will also add a tip for people to ask for edit permission in the header of the pages of "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki" https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Home I checked that's possible, I hope it will not interfer with any header page from http://ofbiz.apache.org/documentation.html Jacques > > Jacques > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Jacques, >> >> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but that is >> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all user >> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea of >> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >> >> Regards, >> Paul >> >> <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Business_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> |
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hi, go git and gothub guys .. the world is changing :p Le 26 nov. 2013 10:03, "Imac [via OFBiz]" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
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We have it also https://github.com/apache/ofbiz
But not as an ASF standard (too long to explain atm) Jacques On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:30 PM wissem.belguidoum <[hidden email]> wrote: > hi, go git and gothub guys .. the world is changing :p > Le 26 nov. 2013 10:03, "Imac [via OFBiz]" < > [hidden email]> a écrit : > >> Hi all, >> >> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different >> email addresses to do so. >> >> Regards >> >> Ed >> >> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=0>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >>> contributor group and add users there) >>> >>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >>> between him and the infra team). >>> >>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >>> users of those MLs? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=1>> >> wrote: >>>> Hi Jacques, >>>> >>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>>> that is >>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>>> user >>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>>> of >>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, >> having >>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> < >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion >> below: >> >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Re-infra-report-for-the-president-tp4645934p4645941.html >> To start a new topic under OFBiz - User, email >> [hidden email] >> To unsubscribe from OFBiz - User, click >> here< >> . >> NAML<http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> |
I see this message on the CWIKI Profile page:
You cannot change your Profile, this is disabled. If you need to change anything contact the ASF Infrastructure Team. ... trying to get this thread track back to fixing the issue instead of proposing lengthy migration visions ... I am not saying don't move, but we need to fix this ASAP to keep the project going. Jacques, what exactly did the infra team communicate? Is this to do with the Confluence update? Has anyone been warned that this would occur? Is this happening on all projects? Fortunately, on the parallel JIRA update there were no similar changes. I can work normal on JIRA as things look. Regards Carsten 2013/11/26 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > We have it also https://github.com/apache/ofbiz > But not as an ASF standard (too long to explain atm) > > Jacques > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:30 PM wissem.belguidoum < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > hi, go git and gothub guys .. the world is changing :p > > Le 26 nov. 2013 10:03, "Imac [via OFBiz]" < > > [hidden email]> a écrit : > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three > different > >> email addresses to do so. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Ed > >> > >> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]< > http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=0>> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Paul, > >>> > >>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF > as a > >>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! > >>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to > create a > >>> contributor group and add users there) > >>> > >>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get > >>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. > >>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my > effort > >>> between him and the infra team). > >>> > >>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly > in > >>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the > registered > >>> users of those MLs? > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]< > http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=1>> > >> wrote: > >>>> Hi Jacques, > >>>> > >>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but > >>>> that is > >>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for > >>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept > all > >>>> user > >>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea > >>>> of > >>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors > >>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, > >> having > >>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> < > >> > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi > >>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion > >> below: > >> > >> > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Re-infra-report-for-the-president-tp4645934p4645941.html > >> To start a new topic under OFBiz - User, email > >> [hidden email] > >> To unsubscribe from OFBiz - User, click > >> here< > > > >> . > >> NAML< > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml > > > |
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Hi Carsten,
See the subject "Confluence access to OFBiz open wiki" on user ML for details Only Confluence is concerned. It's due to spam and a radical move from infra team. It happened on all projects. Only committers following proper lists were warned AFAIK. See "infra report for the president" thread for more details Jacques On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:24 PM Carsten Schinzer <[hidden email]> wrote: > I see this message on the CWIKI Profile page: > > You cannot change your Profile, this is disabled. > If you need to change anything contact the ASF Infrastructure Team. > > ... trying to get this thread track back to fixing the issue instead of > proposing lengthy migration visions ... I am not saying don't move, but we > need to fix this ASAP to keep the project going. > > Jacques, what exactly did the infra team communicate? Is this to do with > the Confluence update? Has anyone been warned that this would occur? Is > this happening on all projects? > > Fortunately, on the parallel JIRA update there were no similar changes. I > can work normal on JIRA as things look. > > Regards > > > Carsten > > > 2013/11/26 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >> We have it also https://github.com/apache/ofbiz >> But not as an ASF standard (too long to explain atm) >> >> Jacques >> >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:30 PM wissem.belguidoum < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> hi, go git and gothub guys .. the world is changing :p >>> Le 26 nov. 2013 10:03, "Imac [via OFBiz]" < >>> [hidden email]> a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different >>>> email addresses to do so. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]< >> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=0>> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>> >>>>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >>>>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >>>>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >>>>> contributor group and add users there) >>>>> >>>>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >>>>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >>>>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >>>>> between him and the infra team). >>>>> >>>>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >>>>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >>>>> users of those MLs? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]< >> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4645941&i=1>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>>>>> that is >>>>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >>>>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>>>>> user >>>>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>>>>> of >>>>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >>>>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >>>>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> < >>>> >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>>>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion >>>> below: >>>> >>>> >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Re-infra-report-for-the-president-tp4645934p4645941.html >>>> To start a new topic under OFBiz - User, email >>>> [hidden email] >>>> To unsubscribe from OFBiz - User, click >>>> here< >>>> . >>>> NAML< >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml |
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> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:40 AM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I will also add a tip for people to ask for edit permission in the header of the pages of "Apache OFBiz (Open For Business) Wiki" > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Home > Jacques Done Jacques |
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Am 26.11.2013 11:21, schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:40 AM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Also I'd like to know if we have a mean to know the list of >> all the registered users of those MLs? > > IIRW I already asked this question and had an anwser, but I can't remember clearly. > I will look at it later, because anyway to add wiki users you have to use their wiki usernames and not their email addresses. > > So I have created an ofbiz-contributors group and added all committers for now. > The rights allow only to add/edit/export pages, comments and attachments, not to remove them. > Please Christian could you try it's ok for editing? No, unfortunately I see no difference (userid: chrisg) And yes, I did a logout/login while trying ;-) Christian |
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:23 AM Christian Geisert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Am 26.11.2013 11:21, schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:40 AM Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Also I'd like to know if we have a mean to know the list of >>> all the registered users of those MLs? >> >> IIRW I already asked this question and had an anwser, but I can't remember clearly. >> I will look at it later, because anyway to add wiki users you have to use their wiki usernames and not their email addresses. >> >> So I have created an ofbiz-contributors group and added all committers for now. >> The rights allow only to add/edit/export pages, comments and attachments, not to remove them. >> Please Christian could you try it's ok for editing? > > No, unfortunately I see no difference (userid: chrisg) > And yes, I did a logout/login while trying ;-) > > Christian Indeed, you were not in the committers group. Actually there are 7 others missing (16 against 23). You are in both now. I'd add all committers, but I'd need to know the Confluence usernames, which are not necessary the same than committers names. Anyway with the tip, now everybody is aware Jacques |
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It seems the mailing lists only support gmail, yahoo mail and hotmail. I tried an email address ***@qq.com for the first time I wanna register, but failed.
Sent from my iPhone On 2013-11-26, at 下午4:57, Imac <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different > email addresses to do so. > > Regards > > Ed > > On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >> contributor group and add users there) >> >> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >> between him and the infra team). >> >> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >> users of those MLs? >> >> Jacques >> >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi Jacques, >>> >>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>> that is >>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>> user >>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>> of >>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>> >>> Regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> >> > > |
Lei, I have registered with [hidden email]!
----- Original Message ----- | From: "Lei" <[hidden email]> | To: [hidden email] | Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:12:15 AM | Subject: Re: infra report for the president | | It seems the mailing lists only support gmail, yahoo mail and | hotmail. I tried an email address ***@qq.com for the first time I | wanna register, but failed. | | Sent from my iPhone | | On 2013-11-26, at 下午4:57, Imac <[hidden email]> wrote: | | > Hi all, | > | > I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three | > different | > email addresses to do so. | > | > Regards | > | > Ed | > | > On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" | > <[hidden email]> | > wrote: | > | >> Hi Paul, | >> | >> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the | >> ASF as a | >> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! | >> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to | >> create a | >> contributor group and add users there) | >> | >> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to | >> get | >> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. | >> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my | >> effort | >> between him and the infra team). | >> | >> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was | >> briefly in | >> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the | >> registered | >> users of those MLs? | >> | >> Jacques | >> | >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> | >> wrote: | >>> Hi Jacques, | >>> | >>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, | >>> but | >>> that is | >>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools | >>> unfit for | >>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even | >>> accept all | >>> user | >>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The | >>> idea | >>> of | >>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of | >>> contributors | >>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, | >>> having | >>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... | >>> | >>> Regards, | >>> Paul | >>> | >>> | >>> <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi | >>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> | >> | > | > | =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you |
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Thanks guys for feedback,others are still appreciated...
Lei, I used my own domain [hidden email] to register and had any problems. It was 9 years ago, so maybe things has changed, weird though. Has someone encountered the same kind of issue "recently"? I suspect some domains may have spamassassin issues (listed somewhere), not sure. Ed, do you remember the 3 others addresses you used? Please continue to send your feedbacks, I will eventually make a summary and ask the infra team about those issues. Thanks Jacques On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:42 AM Lei <[hidden email]> wrote: > It seems the mailing lists only support gmail, yahoo mail and hotmail. I tried an email address ***@qq.com for the first time I > wanna register, but failed. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-11-26, at 下午4:57, Imac <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different >> email addresses to do so. >> >> Regards >> >> Ed >> >> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >>> contributor group and add users there) >>> >>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >>> between him and the infra team). >>> >>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >>> users of those MLs? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi Jacques, >>>> >>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>>> that is >>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>>> user >>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>>> of >>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> |
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So it seems not a lot of persons are concerned?
Jacques On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:46 AM [hidden email] wrote > Thanks guys for feedback,others are still appreciated... > > Lei, I used my own domain [hidden email] to register and had any problems. It was 9 years ago, so maybe things has > changed, weird though. Has someone encountered the same kind of issue "recently"? I suspect some domains may have spamassassin > issues (listed somewhere), not sure. > > Ed, do you remember the 3 others addresses you used? > > Please continue to send your feedbacks, I will eventually make a summary and ask the infra team about those issues. > > Thanks > > Jacques > > > On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:42 AM Lei <[hidden email]> wrote: >> It seems the mailing lists only support gmail, yahoo mail and hotmail. I tried an email address ***@qq.com for the first time I >> wanna register, but failed. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-11-26, at 下午4:57, Imac <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three different >>> email addresses to do so. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF as a >>>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >>>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to create a >>>> contributor group and add users there) >>>> >>>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >>>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >>>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my effort >>>> between him and the infra team). >>>> >>>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was briefly in >>>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the registered >>>> users of those MLs? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>> >>>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>>>> that is >>>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit for >>>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept all >>>>> user >>>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The idea >>>>> of >>>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of contributors >>>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, having >>>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_Busi >>>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> |
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at d4mations dot com at dimelotodo dot net On 12/20/13 3:56 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> wrote: >So it seems not a lot of persons are concerned? > >Jacques > >On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:46 AM [hidden email] wrote >> Thanks guys for feedback,others are still appreciated... >> >> Lei, I used my own domain [hidden email] to register and >>had any problems. It was 9 years ago, so maybe things has >> changed, weird though. Has someone encountered the same kind of issue >>"recently"? I suspect some domains may have spamassassin >> issues (listed somewhere), not sure. >> >> Ed, do you remember the 3 others addresses you used? >> >> Please continue to send your feedbacks, I will eventually make a >>summary and ask the infra team about those issues. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:42 AM Lei <[hidden email]> >>wrote: >>> It seems the mailing lists only support gmail, yahoo mail and hotmail. >>>I tried an email address ***@qq.com for the first time I >>> wanna register, but failed. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2013-11-26, at 下午4:57, Imac <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I had a lot of trouble getting on the list and had to try three >>>>different >>>> email addresses to do so. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> On 11/26/13 9:40 AM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>> >>>>> You know those decisions don't depend on us (OFBiz team) but the ASF >>>>>as a >>>>> whole and mostly the armed wing: infra team! >>>>> See Tony's and my answers about Confluence new issue (we need to >>>>>create a >>>>> contributor group and add users there) >>>>> >>>>> BTW I'd be curious to know the number of users who are unable to get >>>>> registered to the OFBiz MLs and are stuck to use Nabble. >>>>> Please let us know if you cross issues like Paul did (despites my >>>>>effort >>>>> between him and the infra team). >>>>> >>>>> Also I'd like to know who is moderator of the OFBiz MLs (I was >>>>>briefly in >>>>> an old past) and if we have a mean to know the list of all the >>>>>registered >>>>> users of those MLs? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:58 AM Paul Piper <[hidden email]> >>>>>wrote: >>>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just tested it and I am also unable to edit posts. I am sorry, but >>>>>> that is >>>>>> another nail in our coffin. Not only are we stuck with tools unfit >>>>>>for >>>>>> mass-conversation & collaboration (mailing list doesn't even accept >>>>>>all >>>>>> user >>>>>> email addresses), but also are limiting access more and more. The >>>>>>idea >>>>>> of >>>>>> open-source development is based on the idea of a mass of >>>>>>contributors >>>>>> adding to the greater good. Our documentation is already lacking, >>>>>>having >>>>>> access limited to only a handful is going to make it obsolete... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>><http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/file/n4645937/Home_OFBiz_Open_For_ >>>>>>Busi >>>>>> ness_Project_Open_Wiki_Apache_Software_Foundation.png> > |
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