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Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...

jonesde

I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented here  
do not copyright the files that the code is in, they copyright what  
the code produces, and that is constantly changing so the dynamic date  
is appropriate.

-David


On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Author: jleroux
> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
> New Revision: 772941
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
> Log:
> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David Goodenough's  
> advice on copyright update)
> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for  
> Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA now), is  
> that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted  
> item gets updated."
>
> Modified:
>    ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
> footer.fo.ftl
>    ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>    ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
> footer.ftl
>    ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl
>    ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>    ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
> footer.fo.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
> footer.fo.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
> footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
> -->
> <#escape x as x?xml>
>         <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-size="$
> {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
> black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache  
> Software Foundation</fo:block>
> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
> black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</
> fo:block>
>             <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>         </fo:static-content>
> </#escape>
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>
>         <#-- footer -->
>         <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
> black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache  
> Software Foundation</fo:block>
> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
> black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</
> fo:block>
>             <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>         </fo:static-content>
>
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
> includes/footer.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
> footer.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
> footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>   </div>
>   <br/>
>   <div class="tabletext" align="center">
> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org 
> " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  
> Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>     <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://
> ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
> a></div>
>   </div>
>   <br/>
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
> Footer.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
> Footer.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
> Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
> </div>
> <br/>
> <div align="center">
> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
> Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  
> <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org
> </a></div>
>     <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
> </div>
> <br/>
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
> 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>   <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img  
> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"  
> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>   <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img  
> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</@ofbizContentUrl>"  
> alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>   <p>
> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org 
> " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software  
> Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org" target="_blank">www.apache.org
> </a><br />
>   ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include "../../../runtime/
> svninfo.ftl" /></p>
> </div>
> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>
> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
> 11:15:08 2009
> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>
> <div class="footer">
>   <p align="center">
> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache  
> Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a  
> href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org
> </a></p>
>     <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>   </p>
>   <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>
>

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Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes

Jacques Le Roux
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Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html. I just tried but did not find
anything obvious...
Some links
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection

Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!

Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?

Jacques


From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/
framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...


>
> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly changing so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>
> -David
>
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Author: jleroux
>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>> New Revision: 772941
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>> Log:
>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for  Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA now), is
>> that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted  item gets updated."
>>
>> Modified:
>>    ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>    ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>    ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ footer.ftl
>>    ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl
>>    ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>    ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>> -->
>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>         <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
>> Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>> Foundation</ fo:block>
>>             <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>         </fo:static-content>
>> </#escape>
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>
>>         <#-- footer -->
>>         <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
>> Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>> Foundation</ fo:block>
>>             <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>         </fo:static-content>
>>
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/footer.ftl
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>   </div>
>>   <br/>
>>   <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>     <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http:// ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>> a></div>
>>   </div>
>>   <br/>
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>> </div>
>> <br/>
>> <div align="center">
>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>     <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>> </div>
>> <br/>
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>   <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img  src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"  alt="Valid
>> CSS!"/></a>
>>   <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img  src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>> alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>   <p>
>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>> href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>   ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include "../../../runtime/
>> svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>> </div>
>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>> = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  11:15:08 2009
>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>
>> <div class="footer">
>>   <p align="center">
>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>     <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>   </p>
>>   <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>
>>
>


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Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes

David E Jones-3

Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection  
has a limited time period, I believe something like 10 years for  
things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an incentive  
to update the copyright date as they release new editions.

Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message  
for a specific file in the project, and a copyright message that  
represents that output generated by the system (which copyright is  
typically customized when the system is deployed, BTW).

The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover  
generated output, so the substantial change issue is satisfied, and in  
fact it has nothing to do with it because each page generated is a  
unique work and not tied to a previous page.

In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen  
is that people update the copyright date when they make substantial  
changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it is  
not terribly likely and is a real pain as another thing on top of  
dozens already for people to remember.

The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do  
with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once a year of  
all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and then  
update the headers on those (if they haven't already been updated).

-David


On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html 
> . I just tried but did not find anything obvious...
> Some links
> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>
> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>
> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>
> Jacques
>
>
> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/
> webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
> specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>
>
>>
>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented  
>> here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they  
>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly changing  
>> so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>
>>> Author: jleroux
>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David  
>>> Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for  
>>> Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA now), is  
>>> that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted  
>>> item gets updated."
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  
>>> footer.fo.ftl
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/  
>>> footer.ftl
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>> Footer.ftl
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/
>>> basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  
>>> footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  
>>> footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>> -->
>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-
>>> size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
>>> black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
>>> Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
>>> black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</  
>>> fo:block>
>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>> </#escape>
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>
>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
>>> black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
>>> Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid  
>>> black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</  
>>> fo:block>
>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/  
>>> includes/footer.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>> includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>> includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>  </div>
>>>  <br/>
>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  
>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org 
>>>  " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  
>>> Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://  
>>> ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</  
>>> a></div>
>>>  </div>
>>>  <br/>
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/
>>> includes/ Footer.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  
>>> Footer.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  
>>> Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>> </div>
>>> <br/>
>>> <div align="center">
>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
>>> Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation  
>>> -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"  
>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>> </div>
>>> <br/>
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img  
>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"  
>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img  
>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>  <p>
>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  
>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org 
>>>  " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  
>>> Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include "../../../runtime/  
>>> svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>> </div>
>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>
>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>> = = = = = = = =  
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>
>>> <div class="footer">
>>>  <p align="center">
>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
>>> Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"  
>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  
>>> <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org
>>>  </a></p>
>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>  </p>
>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>
>>>
>
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From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
> Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
> years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release new
> editions.

In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
allows to break the 10-70 years ?

> Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright message
> that  represents that output generated by the system (which copyright is  typically customized when the system is deployed, BTW).

I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this means
that the generated outputs are still protected but not the software itself !?

> The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover  generated output, so the substantial change issue is
> satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
> page.

Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and its generated outputs ?

> In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
> substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
> another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.

I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p

> The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do  with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once a
> year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
> already been updated).

Yes sounds like a good policy

Jacques

> -David
>
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just tried but did not find
>> anything obvious...
>> Some links
>> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>>
>> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>>
>> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
>> framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
>> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented  here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
>>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>>> Log:
>>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David  Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for   Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA now),
>>>> is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted   item gets updated."
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/  footer.ftl
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>>> URL:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>> -->
>>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font- size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>> </#escape>
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>> URL:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>>
>>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/  includes/footer.ftl
>>>> URL:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>  </div>
>>>>  <br/>
>>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache   Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://  ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>>>> a></div>
>>>>  </div>
>>>>  <br/>
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/ includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>> URL:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>> </div>
>>>> <br/>
>>>> <div align="center">
>>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The   Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation  -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>>> </div>
>>>> <br/>
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>>  <p>
>>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include
>>>> "../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>>> </div>
>>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>
>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>>
>>>> <div class="footer">
>>>>  <p align="center">
>>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>>  </p>
>>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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I had a look,  in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120
years from creation, whichever expires first>>
What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache
Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc.

Headache :/

I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated. If
someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime in, I give up!

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>> Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
>> years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release
>> new editions.
>
> In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
> allows to break the 10-70 years ?
>
>> Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright
>> message that  represents that output generated by the system (which copyright is  typically customized when the system is
>> deployed, BTW).
>
> I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
> means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the software itself !?
>
>> The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover  generated output, so the substantial change issue is
>> satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
>> page.
>
> Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and its generated outputs ?
>
>> In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
>> substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
>> another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.
>
> I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
>
>> The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do  with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once
>> a year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
>> already been updated).
>
> Yes sounds like a good policy
>
> Jacques
>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just tried but did not find
>>> anything obvious...
>>> Some links
>>> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>>>
>>> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>>>
>>> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
>>> framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
>>> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented  here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
>>>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David  Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for   Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
>>>>> now), is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted   item gets updated."
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/  footer.ftl
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>>> -->
>>>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font- size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>> </#escape>
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>>>
>>>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/  includes/footer.ftl
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache   Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://  ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>>>>> a></div>
>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/ includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>> </div>
>>>>> <br/>
>>>>> <div align="center">
>>>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The   Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation  -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>>>> </div>
>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>>>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>>>  <p>
>>>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include
>>>>> "../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>>>> </div>
>>>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>>>
>>>>> <div class="footer">
>>>>>  <p align="center">
>>>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>>>  </p>
>>>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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I have finally reverted r772941 at r773211
To be consistent, I have replaced 2009 by ${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} in specialpurpose/cmssite/template/ofbiz/ofbizFooter.ftl at
r773216

If someone is interested, I did not take the time to think about
ModelInfo.java
ModelWriter.jsp
ModelInduceFromDb.jsp

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

>I had a look,  in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120
>years from creation, whichever expires first>>
> What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache
> Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc.
>
> Headache :/
>
> I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated.
> If someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime in, I give up!
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>> Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
>>> years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release
>>> new editions.
>>
>> In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
>> allows to break the 10-70 years ?
>>
>>> Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright
>>> message that  represents that output generated by the system (which copyright is  typically customized when the system is
>>> deployed, BTW).
>>
>> I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
>> means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the software itself !?
>>
>>> The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover  generated output, so the substantial change issue is
>>> satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
>>> page.
>>
>> Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and its generated outputs ?
>>
>>> In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
>>> substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
>>> another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.
>>
>> I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
>>
>>> The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do  with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once
>>> a year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
>>> already been updated).
>>
>> Yes sounds like a good policy
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just tried but did not find
>>>> anything obvious...
>>>> Some links
>>>> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>>>>
>>>> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
>>>> framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
>>>> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented  here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
>>>>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>>>>
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David  Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>>>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for   Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
>>>>>> now), is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted   item gets updated."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/  footer.ftl
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font- size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>> </#escape>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>            <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/  includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>>>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache   Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://  ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>>>>>> a></div>
>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/ includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>> <div align="center">
>>>>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The   Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation  -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>>>>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img   src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>>>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>>>>  <p>
>>>>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?  string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>>>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include
>>>>>> "../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = = ====================================================================
>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
>>>>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <div class="footer">
>>>>>>  <p align="center">
>>>>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>>>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -  <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>>>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>>>>  </p>
>>>>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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BJ Freeman
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the jira for ModelInduceFromDb.jsp already has it in it
if you want I can do the other two and include them in the same jira
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2432

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 5/9/2009 5:38 AM:

> I have finally reverted r772941 at r773211
> To be consistent, I have replaced 2009 by ${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
> in specialpurpose/cmssite/template/ofbiz/ofbizFooter.ftl at r773216
>
> If someone is interested, I did not take the time to think about
> ModelInfo.java
> ModelWriter.jsp
> ModelInduceFromDb.jsp
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> I had a look,  in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a
>> work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120
>> years from creation, whichever expires first>>
>> What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if
>> creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache
>> Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc.
>>
>> Headache :/
>>
>> I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use
>> automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated.
>> If someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime
>> in, I give up!
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>> Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright
>>>> protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
>>>> years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have
>>>> an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release
>>>> new editions.
>>>
>>> In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people
>>> update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
>>> allows to break the 10-70 years ?
>>>
>>>> Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright
>>>> message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright
>>>> message that  represents that output generated by the system (which
>>>> copyright is  typically customized when the system is
>>>> deployed, BTW).
>>>
>>> I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If
>>> OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
>>> means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the
>>> software itself !?
>>>
>>>> The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover
>>>> generated output, so the substantial change issue is
>>>> satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each
>>>> page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
>>>> page.
>>>
>>> Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and
>>> its generated outputs ?
>>>
>>>> In the headers for each file in the project what really should
>>>> happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
>>>> substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep
>>>> track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
>>>> another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.
>>>
>>> I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
>>>
>>>> The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do
>>>> with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once
>>>> a year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of
>>>> changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
>>>> already been updated).
>>>
>>> Yes sounds like a good policy
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule
>>>>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just
>>>>> tried but did not find
>>>>> anything obvious...
>>>>> Some links
>>>>> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk:
>>>>> framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
>>>>> framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>> specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
>>>>> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented
>>>>>> here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
>>>>>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly
>>>>>> changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David
>>>>>>> Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>>>>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for  
>>>>>>> Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
>>>>>>> now), is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the
>>>>>>> copyrighted   item gets updated."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
>>>>>>> footer.ftl
>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>> Footer.ftl
>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/
>>>>>>> basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-
>>>>>>> size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>>            <fo:block
>>>>>>> text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
>>>>>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>>> </#escape>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>>            <fo:block
>>>>>>> text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}  
>>>>>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>> includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>> includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>> includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>>>>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
>>>>>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext"
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache  
>>>>>>> Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://
>>>>>>> ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>>>>>>> a></div>
>>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/
>>>>>>> includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>> Footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>> Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>>> <div align="center">
>>>>>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The  
>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>>>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
>>>>>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
>>>>>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>>>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img  
>>>>>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>>>>>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>>>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img  
>>>>>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>>>>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>>>>>  <p>
>>>>>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
>>>>>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org "
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>>>>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache
>>>>>>> Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>>>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a
>>>>>>> href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a>
>>>>>>> <#include
>>>>>>> "../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8  
>>>>>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <div class="footer">
>>>>>>>  <p align="center">
>>>>>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
>>>>>>> Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>>>>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -
>>>>>>> <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>>>>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"  
>>>>>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>>>>>  </p>
>>>>>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes

Jacques Le Roux
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BJ,

Yes I saw your change when I merged So, this file has 2009 in it. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772914&view=rev
And now no OFBiz proper files has still 2008 in it but LICENCE and NOTICE which I'm working on because of the future Axis2 component
integration...
So I'm not sure what you want to do with the 2 others ;o)

Thanks

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>

> the jira for ModelInduceFromDb.jsp already has it in it
> if you want I can do the other two and include them in the same jira
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2432
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 5/9/2009 5:38 AM:
>> I have finally reverted r772941 at r773211
>> To be consistent, I have replaced 2009 by ${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>> in specialpurpose/cmssite/template/ofbiz/ofbizFooter.ftl at r773216
>>
>> If someone is interested, I did not take the time to think about
>> ModelInfo.java
>> ModelWriter.jsp
>> ModelInduceFromDb.jsp
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>> I had a look,  in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a
>>> work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120
>>> years from creation, whichever expires first>>
>>> What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if
>>> creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache
>>> Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc.
>>>
>>> Headache :/
>>>
>>> I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use
>>> automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated.
>>> If someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime
>>> in, I give up!
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright
>>>>> protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
>>>>> years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have
>>>>> an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release
>>>>> new editions.
>>>>
>>>> In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people
>>>> update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
>>>> allows to break the 10-70 years ?
>>>>
>>>>> Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright
>>>>> message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright
>>>>> message that  represents that output generated by the system (which
>>>>> copyright is  typically customized when the system is
>>>>> deployed, BTW).
>>>>
>>>> I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If
>>>> OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
>>>> means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the
>>>> software itself !?
>>>>
>>>>> The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover
>>>>> generated output, so the substantial change issue is
>>>>> satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each
>>>>> page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
>>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and
>>>> its generated outputs ?
>>>>
>>>>> In the headers for each file in the project what really should
>>>>> happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
>>>>> substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep
>>>>> track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
>>>>> another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.
>>>>
>>>> I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
>>>>
>>>>> The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do
>>>>> with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once
>>>>> a year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of
>>>>> changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
>>>>> already been updated).
>>>>
>>>> Yes sounds like a good policy
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also I (we?) have not checked this rule
>>>>>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just
>>>>>> tried but did not find
>>>>>> anything obvious...
>>>>>> Some links
>>>>>> http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk:
>>>>>> framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
>>>>>> framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>> specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
>>>>>> webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented
>>>>>>> here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
>>>>>>> copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly
>>>>>>> changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> New Revision: 772941
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David
>>>>>>>> Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
>>>>>>>> extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for
>>>>>>>> Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
>>>>>>>> now), is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the
>>>>>>>> copyrighted   item gets updated."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
>>>>>>>> footer.ftl
>>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>>> Footer.ftl
>>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>>   ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/
>>>>>>>> basic- footer.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
>>>>>>>> footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> <#escape x as x?xml>
>>>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-
>>>>>>>> size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
>>>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>>>            <fo:block
>>>>>>>> text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
>>>>>>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>>>> </#escape>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
>>>>>>>> EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        <#-- footer -->
>>>>>>>>        <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
>>>>>>>> -            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
>>>>>>>> The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
>>>>>>>> +            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
>>>>>>>> solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation</  fo:block>
>>>>>>>>            <fo:block
>>>>>>>> text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
>>>>>>>> <fo:page-number/></fo:block>
>>>>>>>>        </fo:static-content>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>>> includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>>> includes/ footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
>>>>>>>> includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>>>  <div class="tabletext" align="center">
>>>>>>>> -    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
>>>>>>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>>> +    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache
>>>>>>>> Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>>>    <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://
>>>>>>>> ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
>>>>>>>> a></div>
>>>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>>>  <br/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/
>>>>>>>> includes/ Footer.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>>> Footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
>>>>>>>> Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>>>> <div align="center">
>>>>>>>> -    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
>>>>>>>> +    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>> -  <a href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
>>>>>>>>    <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
>>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>>> <br/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8
>>>>>>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
>>>>>>>>  <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/"><img
>>>>>>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
>>>>>>>> alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
>>>>>>>>  <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
>>>>>>>> src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
>>>>>>>> @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
>>>>>>>>  <p>
>>>>>>>> -  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
>>>>>>>> string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
>>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org "
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
>>>>>>>> +  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache
>>>>>>>> Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
>>>>>>>>  ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a
>>>>>>>> href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a>
>>>>>>>> <#include
>>>>>>>> "../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
>>>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>>> <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = = = = = = = =  = =
>>>>>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8
>>>>>>>> 11:15:08 2009
>>>>>>>> @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <div class="footer">
>>>>>>>>  <p align="center">
>>>>>>>> -    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
>>>>>>>> Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
>>>>>>>> +    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -
>>>>>>>> <a  href="http://www.apache.org" class="tabletext"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
>>>>>>>>    <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
>>>>>>>>  </p>
>>>>>>>>  <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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