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Hi Hans,
Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Author: hansbak > Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 > New Revision: 918926 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev > Log: > add twitter button > > Added: > ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) > Modified: > ofbiz/site/index.html > > Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto > ============================================================================== > Binary file - no diff available. > > Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream > > Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff > ============================================================================== > --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) > +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 > @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ > <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> > </div> > --> > + <div id="language"> > + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> > + </div> > <div id="nav"> > <ul> > <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> > > |
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should -> shouldn't :-)
Regards Scott On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. > > Regards > Scott > > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> Author: hansbak >> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >> New Revision: 918926 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >> Log: >> add twitter button >> >> Added: >> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >> Modified: >> ofbiz/site/index.html >> >> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >> ============================================================================== >> Binary file - no diff available. >> >> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >> >> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >> ============================================================================== >> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >> </div> >> --> >> + <div id="language"> >> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >> + </div> >> <div id="nav"> >> <ul> >> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >> >> > |
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Hans,
Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it. Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is to give the impression of providing official ASF resources when it is not the case. You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know about it. As I said, if you want to promote OFBiz then hand the account credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the description. Regards Scott On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: > Hi Scott, > > just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz.... > > Regards, > Hans > > P.S. > When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it > gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are > accomplishing something and are worthy of attention. > -- Dale Carnegie. > > > > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >> should -> shouldn't :-) >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: >> >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. >>> >>> Regards >>> Scott >>> >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>> >>>> Author: hansbak >>>> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>> New Revision: 918926 >>>> >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >>>> Log: >>>> add twitter button >>>> >>>> Added: >>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >>>> Modified: >>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>> >>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >>>> ============================================================================== >>>> Binary file - no diff available. >>>> >>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >>>> >>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >>>> ============================================================================== >>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >>>> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >>>> </div> >>>> --> >>>> + <div id="language"> >>>> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >>>> + </div> >>>> <div id="nav"> >>>> <ul> >>>> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates > |
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Unless you want to actually engage in the discussion, I'll be reverting your commit within the next few hours.
Regards Scott On 4/03/2010, at 8:42 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: > Dale Carnegie was a very wise man.......You know him? > Perhaps you should read his books, very interesting. > > Regards, > Hans > > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:35 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >> Hans, >> >> Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it. >> >> Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is to give the impression of providing official ASF resources when it is not the case. You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know about it. As I said, if you want to promote OFBiz then hand the account credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the description. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >> >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz.... >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hans >>> >>> P.S. >>> When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it >>> gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are >>> accomplishing something and are worthy of attention. >>> -- Dale Carnegie. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> should -> shouldn't :-) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hans, >>>>> >>>>> Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Author: hansbak >>>>>> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>>>> New Revision: 918926 >>>>>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >>>>>> Log: >>>>>> add twitter button >>>>>> >>>>>> Added: >>>>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >>>>>> Modified: >>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>> Binary file - no diff available. >>>>>> >>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >>>>>> >>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >>>>>> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >>>>>> </div> >>>>>> --> >>>>>> + <div id="language"> >>>>>> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >>>>>> + </div> >>>>>> <div id="nav"> >>>>>> <ul> >>>>>> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>> >> > -- > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates > |
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On 4/03/2010, at 9:02 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> Scott. > > May i remind you that your company provided hosting services and was > named on the front page for that? I still thank your company for that. Last time I checked it was free to create a twitter account. Hosting confluence and the demo instances as well as the big files did come at a substantial cost to HotWax and Contegix. > May remind you that your company sponsored the entity diagrams and was > mentioned in this twitter services? I still thank your company for that. I'm not sure of the relevance. > May i remind you that i currently keep the demo site running (need at > leas a restart every day) and are not mentioned on the front page for > that? As soon as I find some time I will request an account for access to the demo system and put some scripts in place that will remove this heavy burden from your shoulders. > May i remind you i am in the PMC too so the PMC is actually is control? I am in the PMC also and yet I have no control so is the PMC actually in control? > And now you are criticizing that i cannot mention that this twitter > service is provided by Antwebsystems? Rename the feed to ant_ofbiz and add a section on the website where other people can add their own feeds and clearly indicate that they are not official ASF resources and you will hear no criticism from me. > So, I keep the saying of Dale Carnegie to keep my good mood :-) There is really no need to get in a bad mood about this, I have no problem with you trying to market OFBiz alongside your own company but your cannot pose as an official ASF information resource. Regards Scott > > Regards, > Hans > > > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:49 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >> Unless you want to actually engage in the discussion, I'll be reverting your commit within the next few hours. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 4/03/2010, at 8:42 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >> >>> Dale Carnegie was a very wise man.......You know him? >>> Perhaps you should read his books, very interesting. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hans >>> >>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:35 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> Hans, >>>> >>>> Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is to give the impression of providing official ASF resources when it is not the case. You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know about it. As I said, if you want to promote OFBiz then hand the account credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the description. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>> >>>>> just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz.... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Hans >>>>> >>>>> P.S. >>>>> When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it >>>>> gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are >>>>> accomplishing something and are worthy of attention. >>>>> -- Dale Carnegie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>>>> should -> shouldn't :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Hans, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Author: hansbak >>>>>>>> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>>>>>> New Revision: 918926 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>> add twitter button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Added: >>>>>>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >>>>>>>> Modified: >>>>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >>>>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>>>> Binary file - no diff available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >>>>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >>>>>>>> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >>>>>>>> </div> >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> + <div id="language"> >>>>>>>> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >>>>>>>> + </div> >>>>>>>> <div id="nav"> >>>>>>>> <ul> >>>>>>>> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>> >> > -- > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates > |
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On 4/03/2010, at 9:30 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear > on the official site main page. I'm not sure I follow, what about them? The key issue here is that having a unofficial twitter feed appearing as an official OFBiz resource is unacceptable. > > Jacques > > From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]> >> Scott. >> >> May i remind you that your company provided hosting services and was >> named on the front page for that? I still thank your company for that. >> >> May remind you that your company sponsored the entity diagrams and was >> mentioned in this twitter services? I still thank your company for that. >> >> May i remind you that i currently keep the demo site running (need at >> leas a restart every day) and are not mentioned on the front page for >> that? >> >> May i remind you i am in the PMC too so the PMC is actually is control? >> >> And now you are criticizing that i cannot mention that this twitter >> service is provided by Antwebsystems? >> >> So, I keep the saying of Dale Carnegie to keep my good mood :-) >> >> Regards, >> Hans >> >> >> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:49 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>> Unless you want to actually engage in the discussion, I'll be reverting your commit within the next few hours. >>> >>> Regards >>> Scott >>> >>> On 4/03/2010, at 8:42 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>> >>> > Dale Carnegie was a very wise man.......You know him? >>> > Perhaps you should read his books, very interesting. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Hans >>> > >>> > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:35 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>> >> Hans, >>> >> >>> >> Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it. >>> >> >>> >> Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is to give the impression of providing official ASF >>> >> resources when it is not the case. You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know about it. As I said, if you >>> >> want to promote OFBiz then hand the account credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the description. >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> Scott >>> >> >>> >> On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> >>> >>> just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> P.S. >>> >>> When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it >>> >>> gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are >>> >>> accomplishing something and are worthy of attention. >>> >>> -- Dale Carnegie. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>> >>>> should -> shouldn't :-) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Scott >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi Hans, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO >>> >>>>> it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Regards >>> >>>>> Scott >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> HotWax Media >>> >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Author: hansbak >>> >>>>>> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>> >>>>>> New Revision: 918926 >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >>> >>>>>> Log: >>> >>>>>> add twitter button >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Added: >>> >>>>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >>> >>>>>> Modified: >>> >>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >>> >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>> >>>>>> Binary file - no diff available. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >>> >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>> >>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>> >>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>> >>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >>> >>>>>> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >>> >>>>>> </div> >>> >>>>>> --> >>> >>>>>> + <div id="language"> >>> >>>>>> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >>> >>>>>> + </div> >>> >>>>>> <div id="nav"> >>> >>>>>> <ul> >>> >>>>>> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > -- > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>> > >>> >> -- >> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >> > > |
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On 4/03/2010, at 10:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> From: "Scott Gray" <[hidden email]> > On 4/03/2010, at 9:30 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >>> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear >>> on the official site main page. > >> I'm not sure I follow, what about them? >> The key issue here is that having a unofficial twitter feed appearing as an official OFBiz resource is unacceptable. > > From an administrative POV, the name "OFBiz" should not be used, or a disclaimer shown (same for any OFBiz logos used outside of the ASF infra). > > Jacques > >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]> >>> Scott. >>> >>> May i remind you that your company provided hosting services and was >>> named on the front page for that? I still thank your company for that. >>> >>> May remind you that your company sponsored the entity diagrams and was >>> mentioned in this twitter services? I still thank your company for that. >>> >>> May i remind you that i currently keep the demo site running (need at >>> leas a restart every day) and are not mentioned on the front page for >>> that? >>> >>> May i remind you i am in the PMC too so the PMC is actually is control? >>> >>> And now you are criticizing that i cannot mention that this twitter >>> service is provided by Antwebsystems? >>> >>> So, I keep the saying of Dale Carnegie to keep my good mood :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:49 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> Unless you want to actually engage in the discussion, I'll be reverting your commit within the next few hours. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 4/03/2010, at 8:42 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>> >>>> > Dale Carnegie was a very wise man.......You know him? >>>> > Perhaps you should read his books, very interesting. >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > Hans >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:35 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >> Hans, >>>> >> >>>> >> Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it. >>>> >> >>>> >> Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is to give the impression of providing official ASF >>>> >> resources when it is not the case. You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know about it. As I said, if you >>>> >> want to promote OFBiz then hand the account credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the description. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards >>>> >> Scott >>>> >> >>>> >> On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Hi Scott, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz.... >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Regards, >>>> >>> Hans >>>> >>> >>>> >>> P.S. >>>> >>> When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it >>>> >>> gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are >>>> >>> accomplishing something and are worthy of attention. >>>> >>> -- Dale Carnegie. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >>>> should -> shouldn't :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Hans, >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Who is the us in "follow us"? It seems to me that "us" is you. There is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO >>>> >>>>> it should be on the OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>> >>>>> Scott >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> HotWax Media >>>> >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Author: hansbak >>>> >>>>>> Date: Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>> >>>>>> New Revision: 918926 >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev >>>> >>>>>> Log: >>>> >>>>>> add twitter button >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Added: >>>> >>>>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png (with props) >>>> >>>>>> Modified: >>>> >>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto >>>> >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>> >>>>>> Binary file - no diff available. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png >>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff >>>> >>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>> >>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>> >>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar 4 10:25:01 2010 >>>> >>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ >>>> >>>>>> <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a href="#">Settings</a> >>>> >>>>>> </div> >>>> >>>>>> --> >>>> >>>>>> + <div id="language"> >>>> >>>>>> + <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz"><img src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a> >>>> >>>>>> + </div> >>>> >>>>>> <div id="nav"> >>>> >>>>>> <ul> >>>> >>>>>> <li id="current"><a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/">Home</a></li> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > -- > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>>> > >>>> >>> -- >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates >>> >> >> > > > |
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In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux
On 4/03/2010, at 10:43 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> From: "Scott Gray" <[hidden email]> >> On 4/03/2010, at 10:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> From: "Scott Gray" <[hidden email]> >>> On 4/03/2010, at 9:30 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>>> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they >>>>> don't appear >>>>> on the official site main page. >>> >>>> I'm not sure I follow, what about them? >>>> The key issue here is that having a unofficial twitter feed appearing as an official OFBiz resource is unacceptable. >>> >>> From an administrative POV, the name "OFBiz" should not be used, or a disclaimer shown (same for any OFBiz logos used outside of >>> the ASF infra). >> >> I disagree, using the term ofbiz to describe a feed about ofbiz is perfectly acceptable. Neither of those feeds make any attempt to >> appear to represent the project or the ASF, not in the Name, Website, Bio or through the use of logos. >> > Sorry but I still think that a disclaimer is needed. On the Twitter account page for instance, maybe not though if there are any > ambiguities, and then when it begins and where it ends... > BTW I don't care much about all that, I just tell the rule I learned for the demos I provided some times. At this moment I created a specfic logo "Powered by OFBiz" but I did not find the courage to make a new one since. > > Jacques Regards Scott |
Re: svn commit: r918926 - in /ofbiz/site: images/follow_us-b.png index.html
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In reply to this post by Ruth Hoffman-2
On 4/03/2010, at 10:53 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Hans: > > Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> Hans, Scott, >> >> Hans: we all thank you for your help on the demo server. There is no problems making advertissement for your company (or anyone else). It >> seems the problem is in the name apache_ofbiz which looks like an official chanel. >> >> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear >> on the official site main page. >> >>> From a legal POV you can't use the logo and name if it's not an official chanel >> > My understanding, and as it was explained to me by the Apache legal team is that you *may *use the logo and name if you give proper attribution. In other words, clearly indicate that these are registered trademarks of the Apache Foundation. Hans, you may want to check with the lawyers to get further clarification. |
Re: svn commit: r918926 - in /ofbiz/site: images/follow_us-b.png index.html
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Re: svn commit: r918926 - in /ofbiz/site: images/follow_us-b.png index.html
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On 4/03/2010, at 11:13 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Scott: > Perhaps you are correct. But, these guys are lawyers. What we "think" and what is legal are two different matters entirely. Yes and what they said vs. what your interpretation of what they explained to you are also two entirely different matters. Proper attribution is only one aspect of the ASF's trademark policy and it is all pretty well explained here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ That document makes it pretty clear that attribution is not the only concern. > The truth of the matter, as it applies to Han's application and as far as it was explained to me through several written exchanges with the legal team, is that anyone may use the logo and/or the name including "Apache Open For Business", "OFBiz" and "Apache OFBiz" as long the registered trademark symbols are clearly visible (at least one time within close proximity of usage.) > Regards, > Ruth > > Scott Gray wrote: >> On 4/03/2010, at 10:53 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Hans: >>> >>> Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Hans, Scott, >>>> >>>> Hans: we all thank you for your help on the demo server. There is no problems making advertissement for your company (or anyone else). It >>>> seems the problem is in the name apache_ofbiz which looks like an official chanel. >>>> >>>> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear >>>> on the official site main page. >>>> >>>> >>>>> From a legal POV you can't use the logo and name if it's not an official chanel >>>>> >>> My understanding, and as it was explained to me by the Apache legal team is that you *may *use the logo and name if you give proper attribution. In other words, clearly indicate that these are registered trademarks of the Apache Foundation. Hans, you may want to check with the lawyers to get further clarification. >>> >> >> I don't think they are anywhere near as concerned about attribution as they are about misrepresentation of the Apache trademarks. >> >> |
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